harbour regs etc

serious3

following a couple of ididotic, ignorant incidents by holidaymakers at bunowen beach, aillebrack in ballyconneely this weekend can anyone point me in the direction of any rules or regs for boats/motorised craft in and around harbours and beaches? are there any restricions on wakes etc?

fergal.b

You might find something here http://www.transport.ie/upload/general/9650-0.pdf also each harbour will have it's own rules under the local county council where speedboats and jet skis may not be allowed. Common sense should prevail in and around harbours and beaches but just like bad car drivers there will always be bad boat drivers. If you feel they are a danger to others report them to the coast guard.



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serious3

never thought of the coastguard...... one incident was a lad in a 200hp rib that took off a full chat not 10yds from the shore that went between mine and another boat, it lifted my anchor and moved it about 5 yds to the left.... water skiers coming into within 5yards of the beach and along the beach etc etc boats on moorings were hopping up and down so much that a fishing rod fell into the water! my sister in law asked one of them to cop on and was ignored

breghall

We had the same issue on our local waters,anyone that didn't heed the warnings to slow down around the jetty area or moored boats were threatened with flat tyre issues to their trailers on their return ( we wouldn't do it but the moroons didn't know that). It was the only way to get them to see sense and calm down.

serious3

i've just read thru all 160 odd pages of that link above.....nothing about speeding other than the harbour master sets them. i've emailed galway coco to see what they have to say on the matter

JohnCleary

Roundstone on a bank holiday weekend... i'd have expected nothing else

serious3

JohnCleary wrote: »

Roundstone on a bank holiday weekend... i'd have expected nothing else

not roundstone or gurteen as they have signs up prohibiting motorised craft in the beach areas. don't know if its enforced as i wouldn't dream of going anywhere near there on a sunny bank holiday. unfortunatley for me iwas asked to bring my boat round from clifden to bunowen to bring friends and family fishing, what i saw shocked and frightened me. which responsible person thought it was a good idea to let an 8 or 9 yr old boy loose with a tender with a 5hp engine on it? he was zipping around inbetween boats costing up to 25k and sunken marker boys, swimmers and snorkellers, at one point he set the throttle open and set off with no hands with the tender and engine going from lock to lock all over the place! ribs doing 25kts not 20 feet from the shore, skiers skiing parallel with the shore again at about 20ft out, the anchor on my boat with the 12ft of chain weighs about 30lbs, it was picked up and moved by the wake from a rib that went between my boat and the boat that was moored 20 ft behind it

elusiveguy

serious3 wrote: »

the anchor on my boat with the 12ft of chain weighs about 30lbs, it was picked up and moved by the wake from a rib that went between my boat and the boat that was moored 20 ft behind it

The rest sounds ****e alright but is this not as much due to insufficient cable out as it is to a wake from a rib?

serious3

elusiveguy wrote: »

The rest sounds ****e alright but is this not as much due to insufficient cable out as it is to a wake from a rib?

the rope was about a 30deg angle out from the front of my boat, the same as i always do when anchoring, never had it move before even left it overnight a few times

elusiveguy

serious3 wrote: »

the rope was about a 30deg angle out from the front of my boat, the same as i always do when anchoring, never had it move before even left it overnight a few times

Is that enough? Isn't 7-15 times the depth depending on swell the rule of thumb?

Do you mean 30 degrees from the horizontal or the vertical?

serious3

it was no more than 8ft deep and i had about 50ft of rope plus the chain out, 30deg from horizontal

elusiveguy

serious3 wrote: »

it was no more than 8ft deep and i had about 50ft of rope plus the chain out, 30deg from horizontal

That sounds ideal, must have been some wash

serious3

elusiveguy wrote: »

That sounds ideal, must have been some wash

went to retrieve my boat from there last night, i looked at the rib in question it was about 6.5m with a 250hp etec on the back, so its a big old lump!

Steve

Afaik, the only legally applicable rules outside of a harbour (besides the recent personal buoyancy laws) are COLREGs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Regulations_for_Preventing_Collisions_at_Sea