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can family member freeze alcoholics Bank account

  • 03-08-2013 3:37pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46


    Hi,
    I need some urgent help... I have a friend who is literally watching her brother drink himself to death and feels the only hope she could possibly have of stopping him is to get his bank account frozen as he has a very large amount of cash in it... Would this be Legally possible to do???
    If so how would she go about it????.
    Thank you


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    paddyjnr wrote: »
    Hi,
    I need some urgent help... I have a friend who is literally watching her brother drink himself to death and feels the only hope she could possibly have of stopping him is to get his bank account frozen as he has a very large amount of cash in it... Would this be Legally possible to do???
    If so how would she go about it????.
    Thank you

    No I don't think so. His money he can do whatever he likes with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    jca wrote: »
    No I don't think so. His money he can do whatever he likes with it.

    Maybe if he was persuaded to get some treatment and if professional advice was that he was a hopeless case, then it may be possible to get him made a Ward of Court. Then the Office of the Wards of court would administer his accounts. OP, advise your friend to seek professional Medical and also Legal advice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    Maybe if he was persuaded to get some treatment and if professional advice was that he was a hopeless case, then it may be possible to get him made a Ward of Court. Then the Office of the Wards of court would administer his accounts. OP, advise your friend to seek professional Medical and also Legal advice.

    Easier said than done unfortunately. Alcoholics are very clever when it comes to holding onto their money. Unless he's found to be incompetent he can't be made a ward of court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 paddyjnr


    Thanks guys... don't think he feels he needs professional help that's the problem.... Maybe when he gets sick enough from it , he might but I guess she'll just have to wait until then... It's so sad really... It would probably do him the world of good if his finances could be put on hold for a little while until he sees sense...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    Its a terrible dilemma one thats very difficult to both look at and resolve. I'm looking at it every day with a family member too.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 311 ✭✭Lbeard


    paddyjnr wrote: »
    If so how would she go about it????.
    Thank you

    My friend.

    Not only do we know about the law here....but we also know about crime

    And for the perfect crime you have come to the right place.

    Your friend needs to contact the bank, not to get them to freeze her brother's account, but that they need to be a signatory on the account. Get the documents, get her brother well manged on drink and drugs....get him to sign the documents....file them with the bank and ..then ***** his account like a ***** ****. ..............For safe keeping - that should sober him up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 paddyjnr


    Lbeard wrote: »
    My friend.

    Not only do we know about the law here....but we also know about crime

    And for the perfect crime you have come to the right place.

    Your friend needs to contact the bank, not to get them to freeze her brother's account, but that they need to be a signatory on the account. Get the documents, get her brother well manged on drink and drugs....get him to sign the documents....file them with the bank and ..then ***** his account like a ***** ****. ..............For safe keeping - that should sober him up.

    Well now there is a novel idea... I wonder is it as easy as getting forms and coaxing him to sign them... It could possibly be done I would imagine and it really is in the best interest of said person should it go 'belly up'..
    Might be worth a look into it...
    Anything is better than the situation at the moment..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 311 ✭✭Lbeard


    paddyjnr wrote: »
    Well now there is a novel idea... I wonder is it as easy as getting forms and coaxing him to sign them... ..

    This kind of thing is done. Sometimes though it is family members trying to rob a vulnerable member. Or it can be an acquaintance sometimes too. I was talking to an English couple before, and a "friend" of theirs had made themselves a signatory on their joint bank account. Not only did the "friend" empty their bank account but he also ran up loans and credit card debt. The guy did it through a mixture of identity theft and the fact that banks do not really know their customers anymore (it's a call centre not branch.) If you're going to do this, don't do anything illegal. Do not impersonate him - which is something that can be done relatively easily.
    It could possibly be done I would imagine and it really is in the best interest of said person should it go 'belly up'..

    There is a certain kind of drinker around, that if they get wind of someone who has some money, and likes a drink - they'll help them drink their way through it.
    Might be worth a look into it...
    Anything is better than the situation at the moment

    Talk to a solicitor - getting someone made a ward of the court is a legal procedure. Also find out who else you can talk to . There is no law against drinking yourself to death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 934 ✭✭✭LowKeyReturn


    Lbeard wrote: »
    My friend.

    Not only do we know about the law here....but we also know about crime

    And for the perfect crime you have come to the right place.

    Your friend needs to contact the bank, not to get them to freeze her brother's account, but that they need to be a signatory on the account. Get the documents, get her brother well manged on drink and drugs....get him to sign the documents....file them with the bank and ..then ***** his account like a ***** ****. ..............For safe keeping - that should sober him up.

    We don't, however, know anything about punctuation.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 311 ✭✭Lbeard


    We don't, however, know anything about punctuation.

    How would you like......me.... to punctuate your face......for you?

    Thank you, for your highly constructive criticism.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Dubl07


    Alcoholism in one person might be heavy drinking in another. Bodies and psyches are different and the reasons both physical and psychological will also differ.

    Be very, very careful about cutting off your relative's funds without having spoken to their doctor and/or psychiatrist. An alcoholic can have very severe, even fatal health problems if they go into sudden withdrawal just like any other junkie.

    If your relative is sufficiently motivated to seek money to get drink, you could be driving him or her to money-lenders or pay-day-cash type situations which would not be in their best interests.

    What particular circumstances are leading you to ask for this information? Is it that they are drinking more than you consider appropriate or are they unable to look after themselves? I sometimes see offspring/relatives/heirs decide that their parent/relative is spending too much of their inheritance on "something" and seeking to modify another - perfectly lucid - person's behaviour extremely inappropriately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 934 ✭✭✭LowKeyReturn


    Lbeard wrote: »
    How would you like......me.... to punctuate your face......for you?

    Thank you, for your highly constructive criticism.

    Correctly would be a good start.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 311 ✭✭Lbeard


    Correctly would be a good start.

    Shouldn't that be: Correctly, would be a start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


    Lbeard wrote: »
    Shouldn't that be: Correctly, would be a start.

    No.


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