FF- Potential bargain players

Kent Brockman

Looks like we are all going to need a few of these in order to afford anyone half decent.

Baker 4.0, Garrido 4.5 & Clyne 4.5 are obvious fillers for the defence

Up front Anelka is the obvious one at 5.5 & maybe Moore (Swansea) as a permanent fixture on the bench at 4.5

Any other suggestions? I've no clue on the promoted teams except for Bellamy at 5.5

OneColdHand

Kent Brockman wrote: »

Looks like we are all going to need a few of these in order to afford anyone half decent.

Baker 4.0, Garrido 4.5 & Clyne 4.5 are obvious fillers for the defence

Up front Anelka is the obvious one at 5.5 & maybe Moore (Swansea) as a permanent fixture on the bench at 4.5

Any other suggestions? I've no clue on the promoted teams except for Bellamy at 5.5

Why is Baker an obvious filler for defence?

- Unlikely to start for Villa
- Villa have probably the worst start in the league

Kent Brockman

OneColdHand wrote: »

Why is Baker an obvious filler for defence?

- Unlikely to start for Villa
- Villa have probably the worst start in the league

Because he is 4M and could be a permanent sub.

OneColdHand

Kent Brockman wrote: »

Because he is 4M and could be a permanent sub.

Your permantent subs should still be first choice for whatever teams they play for.

Kent Brockman

OneColdHand wrote: »

Your permantent subs should still be first choice for whatever teams they play for.

He got 2000+ mins game time last season & its possible he will get more this season if they think he is good enough. Tough start for them alright.

OneColdHand

Kent Brockman wrote: »

He got 2000+ mins game time last season & its possible he will get more this season if they think he is good enough. Tough start for them alright.

I'm a Villa fan. They don't think he's better than Okore (new signing). IF Okore or Vlaar are out, Baker will still be competing with Clark for a spot.

Mr.Prodston

Kent Brockman wrote: »

Looks like we are all going to need a few of these in order to afford anyone half decent.

Baker 4.0, Garrido 4.5 & Clyne 4.5 are obvious fillersfor the defence

Up front Anelka is the obvious one at 5.5 & maybe Moore (Swansea) as a permanent fixture on the bench at 4.5

Any other suggestions? I've no clue on the promoted teams except for Bellamy at 5.5

*Insert Mickey Turner related sentence* :pac:

Also Garrido isn't a banked to start with Olsson around

roryc

This is awfully similar to the Watchlist thread!

Kent Brockman wrote: »

Because he is 4M and could be a permanent sub.

Also this is terrible advice. There is no such thing as a permanent sub, he WILL be called up to play a few times when you are struggling.

Kent Brockman

Just checked and Baker is the 5th most popular defender & has been selected by 20% of the teams entered so far.........

Now instead of slating my suggestions (typical boards stlye!) how about a few suggestions?

roryc

Kent Brockman wrote: »

Just checked and Baker is the 5th most popular defender & has been selected by 20% of the teams entered so far.........

Now instead of slating my suggestions (typical boards stlye!) how about a few suggestions?

He's the 5th most popular choice because he was the highest scoring defender remaining from last season at £4m, because he played the most of any player on a bad team! All of the other £4m players that scored more either got relegated, or went up in value (see Micky T). Anyone with Baker in their team has absolutely no idea what they are doing, it's the easiest way to see whether someone simply goes with the sheep or studies players. There are multiple better options at Cardiff, Hull and Palace. See Ben Turner as an example. Or Chester.

I mean no offence by this, but will this be your first season playing FF?

OneColdHand

Kent Brockman wrote: »

Just checked and Baker is the 5th most popular defender & has been selected by 20% of the teams entered so far.........

Now instead of slating my suggestions (typical boards stlye!) how about a few suggestions?

He's only at 20% because all the sheep on FPL see he's in 20% of teams, and pick him because of that reason alone.

Feel free to pick him, I won't be.

As for suggestions, I have Turner as my cheap defender. Same price and will play.

Kent Brockman

So, any suggestions for potential bargain players?

OneColdHand

Kent Brockman wrote: »

So, any suggestions for potential bargain players?

In midfield, Koren or Brady from Hull are worth considering.

Mr.Prodston

Baker will be more likely to drop in price leaving you stranded if you're in a spot of bother. At such a high % he can only really be sold. If you don't plan on playing him get somebody who won't lose value at the very least.

It takes 5-10 minutes to have a look at the promoted teams squads and how they're shaping up in pre-season. There aren't too many players at all that will feature at 4.0 this year as it stands. We had all the Reading/Southampton/West Ham players last year. Cardiff can't be touched as their starters all seem to be @4.5 Hull at the moment have one or two players at the moment. Same for Palace

Mr.Prodston

OneColdHand wrote: »

He's only at 20% because all the sheep on FPL see he's in 20% of teams, and pick him because of that reason alone.

Feel free to pick him, I won't be.

As for suggestions, I have Turner as my cheap defender. Same price and will play.

With Caulker and Brayford having signed for Cardiff I think Ben Turner is bench fodder now. No price for Brayford yet but he'll be fighting with Connolly and McNaughton. Connolly can play a cb too and Hudson will not be dropped as captain most likely

roryc

Surprisingly enough, as the pool of £4m starters dries up it will affect people's ability to start with RVP. Hopefully we end up with at least two. I currently have Parr and Turner, neither of which are guaranteed their places.

Kent Brockman

What do ye think about Lampard at 8.0?
Point scoring machine any time he plays but hard to know how much game time he will get this season?

OneColdHand

Kent Brockman wrote: »

What do ye think about Lampard at 8.0?
Point scoring machine any time he plays but hard to know how much game time he will get this season?

Yeah, as you say, hard to know how much he will play. I think Kagawa or Mirallas are better bets in that price range.

Menas

This is always the hardest part of selecting my start of season team. Getting the cheapos who are guaranteed their start. Get it right and you can focus your live transfers on form players....get it wrong and you are on the back foot from about 30 mins before a ball is kicked in GW1.

That said, at the moment I am looking at....speroni, mc gregor, thomas, chester, quinn and parr.
But more homework to do.

manual_man

roryc wrote: »

Surprisingly enough, as the pool of £4m starters dries up it will affect people's ability to start with RVP. Hopefully we end up with at least two. I currently have Parr and Turner, neither of which are guaranteed their places.

new Cardiff RB Brayford is 4.0m, someone on here (a Cardiff fan) says he'll be favourite to start in that position, fairly attack-minded too apparently

Mr.Prodston

manual_man wrote: »

new Cardiff RB Brayford is 4.0m, someone on here (a Cardiff fan) says he'll be favourite to start in that position, fairly attack-minded too apparently

I'm no Cardiff fan I just did some research :pac:

I'd temper it for the moment as he'll be competing with Connolly but looks a better option than Ben Turner was.

Iused2likebusts

marc wilson 4.5 has been playing some games in midfield pre season.

Lemlin

roryc wrote: »

He's the 5th most popular choice because he was the highest scoring defender remaining from last season at £4m, because he played the most of any player on a bad team! All of the other £4m players that scored more either got relegated, or went up in value (see Micky T). Anyone with Baker in their team has absolutely no idea what they are doing, it's the easiest way to see whether someone simply goes with the sheep or studies players. There are multiple better options at Cardiff, Hull and Palace. See Ben Turner as an example. Or Chester.

I mean no offence by this, but will this be your first season playing FF?

In fairness I don't think there's any need to be so condescending.

Only two years ago you were championing Shane Ferguson as a midfielder to save .5 million who would never play when plenty of others disagreed.

It's good to see you've learned from the experienced players on this board but bear in mind others mightn't be reading the board as long as you.

Lemlin

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

marc wilson 4.5 has been playing some games in midfield pre season.

I read an interesting blog on Stoke last year which said that alot of the criticism Pulis was getting from Stoke fans was over persisting with Wilson and Walters.

For that reason, I haven't really considered Wilson as Pieters was signed as left back. Are Stoke missing any mids that Wilson is covering?

I would of thought that N'Zonzi and another like Adam or Whelan would be first choice centre pairing.

Iused2likebusts

Lemlin wrote: »

I read an interesting blog on Stoke last year which said that alot of the criticism Pulis was getting from Stoke fans was over persisting with Wilson and Walters.

For that reason, I haven't really considered Wilson as Pieters was signed as left back. Are Stoke missing any mids that Wilson is covering?

I would of thought that N'Zonzi and another like Adam or Whelan would be first choice centre pairing.

ye it certainly looks like he wont be starting left back. I read quotes from wilson and the stoke asst manager saying they see him as a midfielder. In their 3 pre season games he has played midfield in all them but only started 1 and did 45 mins in another. Its the line ups over the next 2 weeks Ill keep an eye on as these are the crucial ones when managers start playing their favoured eleven, up to now its just about giving all the players minutes on the pitch. Bad news for Ireland if walters and wilson aren't rated by hughes.

Lemlin

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

ye it certainly looks like he wont be starting left back. I read quotes from wilson and the stoke asst manager saying they see him as a midfielder. In their 3 pre season games he has played midfield in all them but only started 1 and did 45 mins in another. Its the line ups over the next 2 weeks Ill keep an eye on as these are the crucial ones when managers start playing their favoured eleven, up to now its just about giving all the players minutes on the pitch. Bad news for Ireland if walters and wilson aren't rated by hughes.

Well Pulis was manager at the time but apparently the Stoke fans didn't rate either player whatsoever.

kevthegaff

jerome thomas at 4.5 p wittingham(set pieces at 50)

BEP!

What do people think of Dembele for 5.5?

Jax Teller

BEP! wrote: »

What do people think of Dembele for 5.5?

He's a good player but not someone I'd consider for Fpl he plays too deep .
1 goal & 2 assists thoughtout last season that's not great .

You could get Dyer or Routledge for the same price and they should get more points than him .

roryc

Lemlin wrote: »

In fairness I don't think there's any need to be so condescending.

Only two years ago you were championing Shane Ferguson as a midfielder to save .5 million who would never play when plenty of others disagreed.

It's good to see you've learned from the experienced players on this board but bear in mind others mightn't be reading the board as long as you.

In fairness I don't know why you continue to reply to my posts when it's clear that neither I nor a number of people on this board give a flying f**k what you think. Shane Ferguson was an error by the FF staff where they priced a MF as £0.5m cheaper than he should have been. A lot of us spotted this, took the risk on only playing with 2 subs, and it paid off by both having extra cash to work with and because Ferguson raised in value despite not playing a single game. We got rid of him during the wildcard before our third sub was ever required. It was a +EV move that paid off, the polar opposite of starting with Baker which is simply following the sheep into getting a rubbish player based purely on % of people that have him.

I wasn't being condescending, hence the 'I mean no offence' line. By the looks of it he didn't take offence. The only one that has, surprise surprise, was you. The ironic thing being that by implying that I am inexperienced, you are attempting to be condescending yourself. Pathetic as always, glad to see you've matured over the summer break.

Futurguy - starting now, can you make it a bannable offence for either of us to reply to the others posts this year? Seems the easiest way to nip this in the bud before the season kicks off.

Liam O

Internet, serious business.

Jax Teller

Rory get over yourself , I for one rate Lemlin's opinion on here probably more so than your own & I am sure lots of us on here feel the same .

FutureGuy

Lemlin and Rory.

We are two weeks away from the new season and I have no problem whatsoever with banning either or both of you from the forum.

Lemlin, you were doing ok until the "learning from more experienced players bit". Warning.

Rory you were doing well until you hit the reply button. Warning.

I'm long enough in the tooth to know when someone is being constructive and when someone is being a smart arse.

Both of ye need to get familiar with the report function. If you have a problem, report it and let the mods do their job.

roryc

Jax Teller wrote: »

Rory get over yourself , I for one rate Lemlin's opinion on here probably more so than your own & I am sure lots of us on here feel the same .

That's cute. Maybe he should stick to offering advice rather than trying to start arguments. As I've said above, if FG makes it so we can't reply to each other then it ends this problem.

Lemlin

roryc wrote: »

That's cute. Maybe he should stick to offering advice rather than trying to start arguments. As I've said above, if FG makes it so we can't reply to each other then it ends this problem.

You gave a pretty baseless opinion above that he disagrees with.

I've yet to see where this "number of people" have made it clear that they don't give a **** what I think. Perhaps you could name them.

And my point wasn't that you're inexperienced. You've been reading this Board a number of years now and have learned from it. Therefore you should give consideration to those who haven't had the benefit of reading it as long. That was my point.

For example, two years ago you had a strategy to go with cheap defenders for the latter half of the season. I explained to you that the latter half of the season is when the top teams really close games out and their defenders perform better then than ever with plenty of clean sheets and one nil wins.

You obviously learned from this because last season you were making my original point, that you disagreed with two years ago, to people.

I'm hoping from last season that you've learned that you shouldn't waste your January wildcard as soon as you get the chance. That was your big downfall IMO.

I've no problem with you replying to my posts. I'd just prefer if you tried to keep it civil rather than resorting to the usual unpleasantries.

We play the game almost as polar opposites so its interesting to see the two approaches. Mine has been more successful each year to date but you're putting in a big effort with alot of time on the Board this year so I'm expecting a big push from you.

Cantona's Collars

Loic Remy to do a medical at Newcastle,wonder if he'll be their new Demba Ba?

Lemlin

zerks wrote: »

Loic Remy to do a medical at Newcastle,wonder if he'll be their new Demba Ba?

I'm steering clear of Newcastle. They were dreadful last year and the whole Kinnear business could muddy the water even more. There's already been trouble with Cisse in pre season apparently.

I think Pieters at Stoke, an attacking left back, could be decent value at 5.0 but I've gone with Toure over him.

I'll be keeping an eye on him though. He's a Dutch international and Hughes' teams (bar the debacle at QPR) are normally good for clean sheets.

Cantona's Collars

Soldado has joined Spurs,could be one to watch.

Lemlin

zerks wrote: »

Soldado has joined Spurs,could be one to watch.

Definitely. I reckon he will be about 9.5 though so maybe not a bargain.

Paully D

Lemlin wrote: »

Definitely. I reckon he will be about 9.5 though so maybe not a bargain.

I'm hoping he comes in slightly cheaper (although I think ultimately you will be correct) but if Bale is off then Soldado will definitely be in my team as Spurs cover.

Lemlin

Paully D wrote: »

I'm hoping he comes in slightly cheaper (although I think ultimately you will be correct) but if Bale is off then Soldado will definitely be in my team as Spurs cover.

I'm keeping an eye on Lennon. He had decent enough returns last year.

Amirani

If Soldado is 9mil or below then he'll be in my team without a doubt. I don't think any of the other top 5 teams will be as dependent on 1 striker.

I haven't figured out whether Bale leaving would be a good thing or not for him. Probably would be.

Kerrydude1981

What about Morrison of West Ham,4.5m and is going well in pre season.

MagicIRL

Lugano is in for WBA for 5.0m

Amirani

MagicIRL wrote: »

Lugano is in for WBA for 5.0m

Don't think it's low enough to consider him for Gameweek 1 . Worth keeping an eye on though because he can take free kicks and will be a good threat from corners.

Hogey007

roryc wrote: »

This is awfully similar to the Watchlist thread!

i have to agree with that, a lot of the same stuff being posted in both, can we not just stick to one or merge them?

it's getting harder to log in and check up on new posts because you're being dragged to several different threads.

manual_man

gonna put a shout out for Paulinho. not exactly cheap (7m) but was very impressed by him in Confederations Cup, seems to get forward quite a bit reminded me a bit of Lampard. Checked his stats and scored an average of a goal every 4 games in Brazil last 2 seasons. Not bad at all. This is all dependant on Bale leaving of course, if he stays, i'll re-shuffle my team to have him instead

Amirani

manual_man wrote: »

gonna put a shout out for Paulinho. not exactly cheap (7m) but was very impressed by him in Confederations Cup, seems to get forward quite a bit reminded me a bit of Lampard. Checked his stats and scored an average of a goal every 4 games in Brazil last 2 seasons. Not bad at all. This is all dependant on Bale leaving of course, if he stays, i'll re-shuffle my team to have him instead

He did play a fairly advanced role for Corinthians, far more so than he did for the national team. He's a very talented player when given license to go forward, I'm just not sure he's going to get that at Spurs. Holtby, Siggy and Bale all like to operate in a similar sort of role.

manual_man

NiallSparky wrote: »

He did play a fairly advanced role for Corinthians, far more so than he did for the national team. He's a very talented player when given license to go forward, I'm just not sure he's going to get that at Spurs. Holtby, Siggy and Bale all like to operate in a similar sort of role.

yep but he's managed 5 goals for Brazil national team in 17 games nevertheless

slingerz

Zaha could be an option on the cheap from United. Have to wonder about rotation there though even if Moyes didnt do much of it at Everton he will have to at United

Oranage2

Why is Baker (villa) in so many teams? does he play?