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Nighlife Waterford

  • 30-07-2013 8:07pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭


    Flying into Waterford city tomorrow and staying there tomorrow night. Can anyone recommend good place to go out have a few drinks and chat up women?:D Never been out there

    On my own and visit is for pleasure so no work the next day.

    Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭jayboi


    Flying into Waterford city tomorrow and staying there tomorrow night. Can anyone recommend good place to go out have a few drinks and chat up women?:D Never been out there

    On my own and visit is for pleasure so no work the next day.

    Cheers
    Stay away from our women!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭jimbojazz


    Dignity is good for a bit of "crack"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 275 ✭✭ex_infantry


    why not try out the maryland i hear the service there is quite good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    jimbojazz wrote: »
    Dignity is good for a bit of "crack"


    Yeah I know that's a gay bar..looks a bit contrived though..a bit like the "Orish" bars abroad.

    Is it any good though?

    Seriously people....I am depending on your judgement!!

    BTW...I am Irish...just returning for friends wedding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭jimbojazz


    Yeah I know that's a gay bar..looks a bit contrived though..a bit like the "Orish" bars abroad.

    Is it any good though?

    Seriously people....I am depending on your judgement!!

    BTW...I am Irish...just returning for friends wedding.

    Dont know what Wednesdays are like (normally a students night during college term)

    Personally I like the Tap Room on Ballybricken
    You also have Alfies Hales and the Exchange up there

    The main pub areas you have Geoffs, across the road is the Kasbah

    Then you have Shortts, Revolution and Sinnotts, The Woodman and The Front Lounge and the aforementioned Dignity - where you probably have a better chance than any of the others of chatting up a bird (genuine not a drag queen!!)

    All of these are more or less in the same area

    That's the gist of it really

    As to how much in the way of single women will be out, I couldn't say but given it's a week night I'd say very few


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭b0ardsUser


    I'm returning home myself for a couple of days at the end of August. Is the 'Mojo Lounge' still going?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Max Powers


    jimbojazz wrote: »
    Dont know what Wednesdays are like (normally a students night during college term)

    Personally I like the Tap Room on Ballybricken
    You also have Alfies Hales and the Exchange up there

    The main pub areas you have Geoffs, across the road is the Kasbah

    Then you have Shortts, Revolution and Sinnotts, The Woodman and The Front Lounge and the aforementioned Dignity
    - where you probably have a better chance than any of the others of chatting up a bird (genuine not a drag queen!!)

    All of these are more or less in the same area

    That's the gist of it really

    As to how much in the way of single women will be out, I couldn't say but given it's a week night I'd say very few

    your main stops i reckon. Woodman tends to be a bit quiet at start of night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Thanks for replies

    Well I had my night out in Waterford and I must say that I am less than impressed.

    Where do I start..might as well start at the airport.

    Arrived at 8am on my flight. Cldnt see any info about a bus link so queued up patiently to speak with the young girl behind the desk...

    Me: "Where is the bus link?"
    Girl: "There is none...you can get a taxi outside but if there is none there come back in and you can phone"
    Me: "So there is no taxi rank. I just got to hope there is a taxi outside. Right. Where is the ATM machine?"
    Girl: "There is none. The taxi will take you to one."

    So here we have an airport with no direct bus/shuttle to the "city", no taxi rank and no ATM. Brilliant.

    Next stage:

    Got into a taxi. Friendly enough chap. Mid-50s grossly over weight. You get the picture. First ATM was broken outside a Tesco..so then drove around looking for another one. He asked if I was a "langer"...WTF!.....He thought I had a Cork accent. Asked about night life etc. Informed me that place will be quiet as students not around. I thought, I gave up my student days years ago so that should not be an issue.

    This is a "city" afterall. I have lived in Cork, Dublin, UK and US and so a Wednesday night during the summer should be fun somewhere. Students or no students.

    Eventually go to the quay side accom where I was staying and duly paid over €20.00 and was informed that my accom was very dodgy and to watch my belongings. Great. The time is still only 9am.

    Lets cut to 4.30pm. Met up with two of my friends one of which needed to buy a cabin bag for holiday. Off we went to Dunnes where we saw a mid aged lady stuffing school trousers in her handbag and legging it.

    10 mins later in Boots...same thing. This burly, red hair dyed (different) lady legging it out with make up stuffed in her handbag..set off the alarms. From never seeing a robbery once in 35 years Ihad now seen 2 in 10 mins.

    Right then. Had dinner in Granvilles. Nice no complaints but a lot of coffin dodgers around.

    It is now 8pm. I am away from wife and kids and want to make the most of it.

    Walked toward John Street (I think) where there is a basically pubs everywhere. I looked into every pub and I would say that 90% were completely empty or had maybe a handful of patrons around a table chatting.

    Went for 2 pints in some quasi sports bar across from Dignity. I went in because it had more then 5 people in there (but less than 10) and was the busiest. Had my 2 drinks and left. In desparation I went into Dignity as gay bars can be fun. There was 2 women playing pool. That was it. Left after 1 drink and walked back along the quays deparately looking for some half decent place. VAst majority were completely empty or 2-3 men inside. Then I heard music in a hotel toward the bridge. Looked in the window. All I saw was the usual middle aged man droning on with Irish ballads in front of even more coffin dodgers. Off back to my guest house I went.

    I was in my bed by 11.30pm.

    Waterford.....is that it? is that the best you have to offer?

    I dont care if it was a Wednesday night. That is no excuse for a "city". It is no more than a provincial market town at best. Sorry but it was a fairly crap experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭therealme


    "few drinks and chat up women?"

    "I am away from wife and kids and want to make the most of it."

    Nice! If your wife was away - would you like her going out alone to chat up men...and make the most of it????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭b0ardsUser


    Waterford.....is that it? is that the best you have to offer?

    Unfortunately Wednesday wouldn't be an ideal night to go out, considering there's a lot of people unemployed who perhaps wouldn't have the money to go out, as well as the Monday - Friday 9 to 5'rs wouldn't be out on a Wednesday. But yes, Wednesday is "student night" September to May.

    Unfortunately I don't think the airport could justify having a bus link every day considering you could probably count the amount of flights everyday on one hand.

    That was actually an embarrassing account of Waterford (Embarrassing for those who encourage Waterford tourism), I'm sorry you didn't enjoy your visit. I'm flying home tomorrow for a few days to visit family, I'm quite looking forward to seeing how the town actually is, compared to how the likes of the Waterford Business/City Center Facebook page portrays it as.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    therealme wrote: »
    "few drinks and chat up women?"

    "I am away from wife and kids and want to make the most of it."

    Nice! If your wife was away - would you like her going out alone to chat up men...and make the most of it????


    There is nothing wrong with going out and having a laugh. Chatting and flirting with women is not a full blown affair. Get off the high horse.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭therealme


    Not on a high horse at all - there's a way I like to be treated & for men to treat women.

    I have no interest in "flirting" with married men when I am out - or any man in a relationship.

    Honestly, I think it is sad if a married man is going out for that reason - clearly you were.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    b0ardsUser wrote: »
    Unfortunately Wednesday wouldn't be an ideal night to go out, considering there's a lot of people unemployed who perhaps wouldn't have the money to go out, as well as the Monday - Friday 9 to 5'rs wouldn't be out on a Wednesday. But yes, Wednesday is "student night" September to May.

    Unfortunately I don't think the airport could justify having a bus link every day considering you could probably count the amount of flights everyday on one hand.

    That was actually an embarrassing account of Waterford (Embarrassing for those who encourage Waterford tourism), I'm sorry you didn't enjoy your visit. I'm flying home tomorrow for a few days to visit family, I'm quite looking forward to seeing how the town actually is, compared to how the likes of the Waterford Business/City Center Facebook page portrays it as.

    I was chatting to a guy from Waterford the next day and he mentioned that unempolyment was a major issue. He did that concede that the town is very much down in the dumps at the moment.

    With direct flights to the UK it really should try to take advantage...ok not quite a Temple Bar scenario but anything is better than what I saw. Granted it may have just been a bad night but it doesnt sound like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    therealme wrote: »
    Not on a high horse at all - there's a way I like to be treated & for men to treat women.

    I have no interest in "flirting" with married men when I am out - or any man in a relationship.

    Honestly, I think it is sad if a married man is going out for that reason - clearly you were.


    Good for you...take it to another forum please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭therealme


    Just giving my opinion...though that was one of the points of Boards!

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    therealme wrote: »
    Just giving my opinion...though that was one of the points of Boards!

    :rolleyes:

    Keeping your opinion on topic would be more helpful and not digressing into some moral crusade.

    You have not given any opinion on "Nightlife in Waterford" so you really are not helping.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    It is said that unemployment in Limerick and Waterford are amongst the highest in Ireland, but by the sounds of it, a Wednesday night in Limerick during the summer would be far better!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭therealme


    I was out in Waterford twice.

    Once, a guy was on the ground getting his head kicked in...the gardai walked straight past it. People stood around and let it happen.

    The other time I stayed fairly sober and honestly was taken aback at a lot of the clientele! Wouldn't be one of the classier towns - in my opinion!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭roxyworldgirl


    Keeping your opinion on topic would be more helpful and not digressing into some moral crusade.

    You have not given any opinion on "Nightlife in Waterford" so you really are not helping.

    Completely disagree as it seems most topics never stick to the heading...
    She has a point... this thread wasn't about nightlife in Waterford at all anyway, it was about somewhere to suit this "type" of visiter...
    Next time he's around I'd advise he try the Maryland :) ..

    but in all seriousness, heading to bed at such an early stage? What did he expect?? The town doesn't REALLY get going until around 11 any night!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Max Powers


    ..

    but in all seriousness, heading to bed at such an early stage? What did he expect?? The town doesn't REALLY get going until around 11 any night!

    thats true. with the major unemployment and people generally watching the pennies/drinking at home etc, its very tough to run a pub outside friday - sunday here. people just dont have the money to be heading out for a few after work and that. its just where we are at the moment. . still though, if I met 2 of my mates in a one pub town, we would have a great night. Shame OP was over on a wednesday night, with students away, im sure it was quiet.

    I would urge all again to support the city centre businesses, make the effort, leave the local


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Completely disagree as it seems most topics never stick to the heading...
    She has a point... this thread wasn't about nightlife in Waterford at all anyway, it was about somewhere to suit this "type" of visiter...
    Next time he's around I'd advise he try the Maryland :) ..

    but in all seriousness, heading to bed at such an early stage? What did he expect?? The town doesn't REALLY get going until around 11 any night!


    Jaysus some people have got complete wrong end of the stick. I was not over to embark on some cheeky one night stand which is what some people seem to think.

    The original post was trying to find the best places to go in Waterford as I wanted to let off some steam and have a laugh....and was going perfectly fine until the Holy Mary's arrived.

    Are you seriously suggesting that the place would have kicked off past 11 and I missed all the fun? I dont think so. Pull the other one.

    This was not Barcelona.

    As a matter of interest where should I have gone to witness Waterford in all it's glory on a Wednesday night?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭CuriousG


    Sad to say, I have lived in Waterford for the past two years and I have the same impression of the place regarding nightlife and crime.


    I like the city, and it has a lot going for it, but it can't really be called just that - a city - because in reality it isn't.

    The times I went out in Waterford I have been disappointed at either a) the lack of people , b) the abundance of the wrong people c)the lack of fun in general in the town.

    Maybe it's just my opinion as not being from here I view it differently, but it is a pretty boring AND unsafe city at night compared to towns smaller/the same size.

    The idea of a 'good night' by Waterford standards doesn't compare much to nights out in a lot of other places, not putting the place down as I said, wouldn't have stayed here if I hated it - but there definitely is room to point out the obvious flaws, and understandably Waterford people will defend it to the hilt, which is fair enough, but at the same time it is the truth and reality and saying things like ' all places have this/that' or 'it's only busy at 11' really doesn't take away from the reality of it. I agree that unemployment is a huge factor, it may have been a completely different place say five years ago, I don't know.


    PS - I understand it doesn't make sense to have a full bus service to the airport, but in a 'city' and no link to the airport, I found it terrible.

    PPS- 9/10 times I have gone out on the weekend, and it was still as quiet. People mentioning students - yes, they make the place a bit more lively, but they also tend to make life hell for anyone trying to have a good night out without being puked on/walking into a fight/just being a nuisance in general.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Max Powers wrote: »
    thats true. with the major unemployment and people generally watching the pennies/drinking at home etc, its very tough to run a pub outside friday - sunday here. people just dont have the money to be heading out for a few after work and that. its just where we are at the moment. . still though, if I met 2 of my mates in a one pub town, we would have a great night. Shame OP was over on a wednesday night, with students away, im sure it was quiet.

    I would urge all again to support the city centre businesses, make the effort, leave the local


    I think what suprised me the most was the complete lack of holiday makers/tourists.

    I fully expected that a city would have a good vibe/buzz about the place. If you go out in Cork, Dublin and even crusty old Galway you will always finds tourists and holiday makers who bring a great buzz to the place and nightlife and a good night out ensues.

    I guess that Waterford is just not in that league. Someone else mentioned
    Limerick having the same problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Max Powers


    CuriousG wrote: »
    Sad to say, I have lived in Waterford for the past two years and I have the same impression of the place regarding nightlife and crime.


    I like the city, and it has a lot going for it, but it can't really be called just that - a city - because in reality it isn't.

    The times I went out in Waterford I have been disappointed at either a) the lack of people , b) the abundance of the wrong people c)the lack of fun in general in the town.

    Maybe it's just my opinion as not being from here I view it differently, but it is a pretty boring AND unsafe city at night compared to towns smaller/the same size.

    The idea of a 'good night' by Waterford standards doesn't compare much to nights out in a lot of other places, not putting the place down as I said, wouldn't have stayed here if I hated it - but there definitely is room to point out the obvious flaws, and understandably Waterford people will defend it to the hilt, which is fair enough, but at the same time it is the truth and reality and saying things like ' all places have this/that' or 'it's only busy at 11' really doesn't take away from the reality of it. I agree that unemployment is a huge factor, it may have been a completely different place say five years ago, I don't know.


    PS - I understand it doesn't make sense to have a full bus service to the airport, but in a 'city' and no link to the airport, I found it terrible.

    PPS- 9/10 times I have gone out on the weekend, and it was still as quiet.

    two destinations out there at the moment, it would be impossible to run a profit even if half of everyone landing there wanted to get a bus to city centre. Its not economically viable so you get a taxi, its not a big deal really. dont think anyone can argue with the fact that is quiet sometimes but i always have a great time when im out. I have lived in other Irish cities and i was wondering, what would you be doing at night in say Cork or Galway that you find it boring here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭CuriousG


    Max Powers wrote: »
    two destinations out there at the moment, it would be impossible to run a profit even if half of everyone landing there wanted to get a bus to city centre. Its not economically viable so you get a taxi, its not a big deal really. dont think anyone can argue with the fact that is quiet sometimes but i always have a great time when im out. I have lived in other Irish cities and i was wondering, what would you be doing at night in say Cork or Galway that you find it boring here?

    Yeah as I said in my post, I do understand that. It's just annoying if you're a tourist, and it would turn people off coming here to a degree.

    It's not about what you are doing, it is the atmosphere of the place and the people that make it great, not necessarily what you're at. I know there will be defensive comments on this thread because a lot of people that live in Waterford don't want to accept that it isn't as good as other places, and will fight to the death to defend it - good to have pride in your city, but that doesn't mean another persons opinion of the place is wrong. Obviously if you've lived here your whole life, you're going to have a different perception than someone that has came here for one reason or another, which I'm presuming is a lot of people in the city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭b0ardsUser


    Next time he's around I'd advise he try the Maryland :) ..

    Careful now ;):D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Max Powers wrote: »
    two destinations out there at the moment, it would be impossible to run a profit even if half of everyone landing there wanted to get a bus to city centre. Its not economically viable so you get a taxi, its not a big deal really. dont think anyone can argue with the fact that is quiet sometimes but i always have a great time when im out. I have lived in other Irish cities and i was wondering, what would you be doing at night in say Cork or Galway that you find it boring here?


    Surely you dont need a full time bus link. There is only 4-5 flights a day at best so a mini bus parking up a few times a day is surely economical. I mean there must be a underused bus operator locally who could work something out. Better than being parked up in a garage. Knowing what Ireland is like, the local taxi drivers would sabatoge the idea anyway

    As regards other cities, for a start live music will always attract a crowd. I can think of numerous venues in Cork, Dublin and Galway every night of the week that will have live music on. Hell I know of certain coastal towns that will have more life. Tourists love the diddly diddle stuff.

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Max Powers


    CuriousG wrote: »
    Yeah as I said in my post, I do understand that. It's just annoying if you're a tourist, and it would turn people off coming here to a degree.

    It's not about what you are doing, it is the atmosphere of the place and the people that make it great, not necessarily what you're at. I know there will be defensive comments on this thread because a lot of people that live in Waterford don't want to accept that it isn't as good as other places, and will fight to the death to defend it - good to have pride in your city, but that doesn't mean another persons opinion of the place is wrong. Obviously if you've lived here your whole life, you're going to have a different perception than someone that has came here for one reason or another, which I'm presuming is a lot of people in the city.

    fair enough but you said you find it boring, what would you be doing in galway or cork to be not so bored there? I have lived in Dublin and other places so i don have some frame for comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭CuriousG


    Max Powers wrote: »
    fair enough but you said you find it boring, what would you be doing in galway or cork to be not so bored there? I have lived in Dublin and other places so i don have some frame for comparison.


    As I said, not WHAT you are doing - I have gone out in Cork City, Kilkenny, and even Wexford (which is a small enough town in comparison with not much employment either) and the atmosphere has been a lot better! It isn't about what you can do, Waterford just has a crap atmosphere for the most part, and it is very quiet compared to other surrounding places. Other places have a good selection of venues while most Waterford bars are in and around the same atmosphere, not much jumping out if you're new here. Nothing more or less, just one persons opinion on the place, if you don't agree, fair enough, but I'm entitled to think that.

    Will agree above also, the only bands Waterford really tends to have on a regular basis are a few local bands that, although talented, won't suit everyones taste. There isn't a huge amount of variety, and there are no good live music venues that will cater to more than just the average popular music bands that play.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭roxyworldgirl



    Are you seriously suggesting that the place would have kicked off past 11 and I missed all the fun? I dont think so. Pull the other one.

    This was not Barcelona.

    Yes that's exactly what I'm saying . You obviously didn't wanna give it a chance .. Does the foundry even open before That time ? :s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Yes that's exactly what I'm saying . You obviously didn't wanna give it a chance .. Does the foundry even open before That time ? :s


    The Foundry was closed and was staying closed but that is just a nightclub for kids.

    I gave the place every chance. I walked up and down...went into a few bars. Looked into most. Asked locals for the lowdown. Hell I even started this thread!!! Not really sure what else I could have done. I was looking forward to it.

    Maybe it was just one very bad night and I was unlucky but I doubt it. But I would be quite happy to go again if the opportunity arises at the weekend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Dave_Power


    I have been out in Dublin and Cork on wednesday night and you'd be struggling to find a saturday night atmosphere anywhere. You had your mind made up before u even came to Waterford, and you've a cheek to call people coffin dodgers, you'll be one soon. Waterford city on Wednesday night certainly wouldnt have an atmosphere with narrow minded people like you hanging around looking down their noses and been judged by you for their appearences and not by their charactor.

    did you expect to be entertained while you were in Waterford?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Dave_Power wrote: »
    I have been out in Dublin and Cork on wednesday night and you'd be struggling to find a saturday night atmosphere anywhere. You had your mind made up before u even came to Waterford, and you've a cheek to call people coffin dodgers, you'll be one soon. Waterford city on Wednesday night certainly wouldnt have an atmosphere with narrow minded people like you hanging around looking down their noses and been judged by you for their appearences and not by their charactor.

    did you expect to be entertained while you were in Waterford?


    Eh...yes.

    As a place that calls itself a city in the height of summer I would have expected plenty of entertain and a vibrant nightlife even on a Wednesday night. Sure not on a Friday/Saturday night scale but at least SOMETHING.

    I had my mind made up? Rubbish. Back that statement up..you can't

    As I said I made a lot of enquires before hand as I only had 24 hours to make sure I made the most of my visit. I was really looking forward to it. I was even in the gay bar...how is that for narrow mindedness....;)

    Coffin dodgers...yes I will be one..hopefully. Not sure how that is cheek but clearly you have taken offence. Your issue not mine.

    Attack me all you want for all the good it will do. It's a shame you cannot make any constructive suggestions on why Waterford is dying on its feet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Dave_Power


    Waterford is not dying on its feet purely on the basis that you had a crappy Wednesday night. I dont no what kind of constructive suggestions you expect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Dave_Power wrote: »
    Waterford is not dying on its feet purely on the basis that you had a crappy Wednesday night. I dont no what kind of constructive suggestions you expect.


    God I am not that egotistical...lol.

    I think you will find that alot of people from Waterford agree with me quoting unemployment as the main reason. There is no shame in admitting that a place is in trouble and needs life injected into it. Easier said than done.

    So Waterford is a vibrant energetic international looking cosmopolitan city with loads to offer even on a Wednesday night and I was just plain unlucky. Fair enough, I stand corrected.;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭thomasm


    therealme wrote: »
    I was out in Waterford twice.

    Once, a guy was on the ground getting his head kicked in...the gardai walked straight past it. People stood around and let it happen.

    The cops seriously walked past and did nothing as someone was assaulted. How far were they from the assault. What part of town was it in. Why did you not report them(the cops).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    thomasm wrote: »
    The cops seriously walked past and did nothing as someone was assaulted. How far were they from the assault. What part of town was it in. Why did you not report them(the cops).

    To be fair, that happens in every city at the weekend. I have seen similar in Cork and Dublin. Sadly not while abroad which says a lot about our attitudes as a nation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭therealme


    thomasm wrote: »
    The cops seriously walked past and did nothing as someone was assaulted. How far were they from the assault. What part of town was it in. Why did you not report them(the cops).

    YES...there was a crowd around - all the pubs on the corner were closing & we walked out to get a taxi. I went to walk over to tell the guy to stop kicking the guy on the groung - somebody tugged my arm and said "I wouldn't get involved"....that was when the Gardai walked past, looked & kept walking!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    therealme wrote: »
    YES...there was a crowd around - all the pubs on the corner were closing & we walked out to get a taxi. I went to walk over to tell the guy to stop kicking the guy on the groung - somebody tugged my arm and said "I wouldn't get involved"....that was when the Gardai walked past, looked & kept walking!

    Total b*ll****, you absolute spoofer.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    O Riain wrote: »
    Total b*ll****, you absolute spoofer.

    I don't know if this particular person is lying or not but I live in the city on a very busy street and I have seen the gardai ignoring fights on many occasion. The gardai tend to avoid having to uphold the law if they can in my experience.


    Yeah Waterford nightlife has been pretty dead lately. Friday and Saturday nights you still get a decent crowd but not nearly the same as years ago, it seems to be getting smaller as time goes on. On a Wednesday night it will get busy again once the students come back, so that will bring a bit of nightlife back for the younger people at least.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭therealme


    O Riain wrote: »
    Total b*ll****, you absolute spoofer.

    Excuse ME....I SAW it happen, one thing I do NOT do is lie.

    It was just outside The Woodman.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭S28382


    The problem with the nightlife in Waterford is that people wanted cheap drinks and free in, the pubs/clubs gave in and were basically giving away drinks just to keep some people happy and make it seem as if it was busy then as time went on places closed because they could not afford to continue on the way they were.

    The problem with free in and cheap drink as was proven is that it brings out the scumbags and as places were more desperate to have bodies in their establishment they left in everybody and anybody in which it made it seem more like you were taking your life into your own hands when going out in Waterford. That might seem extreme but no one can deny that the last two years the nightlife in Waterford is gone more dangerous than ever before. We all now that there is other places in Ireland that are just as bad but unfortunately Waterford is definitely up there with the worst.

    So as more places jump on the bandwagon of cheap drink free in pubs/clubs could not sustain that kind of business plan and some went to the wall unfortunately i dont think its the end of places closing as the Wacky Apple has just found out.

    I dont think the price war lasted very long and the sad thing is that most places knew it was bad business but they did it anyway just to get people in and because of that places closed and good people lost jobs. Go half an hour up the M9 and there is not one place that went down the line of cheap drink and guess what there isnt a whiff of any place closing it just doesnt work businesses need profits to survive and i know there were pubs/clubs ripping off people (some still are) but in the main it wasnt too bad that it warranted the price war that went on. It helped ruin the nightlife in Waterford.

    In relation to the OP, Waterford is a nice place when it is in full swing and in these times the city is on its knees there is some good people trying to rectify that but when the city is being battered by unemployment its hard for it to be anything but dead. For a visitor in Waterford midweek is especially a bad time to go out as Saturday is the only night when there is people around. Dont let what happened put you off coming back but just like any place in the world when people drink there is the potential for trouble its not just confined to Waterford. When a sizeable amount of the people are not working then the chances of places being busy midweek are small.

    I have been a critic of Waterford on numerous times im from Waterford iv seen the good the bad and the ugly its in the bad/ugly stage now but it will turn around and then you will see the good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Max Powers


    CuriousG wrote: »
    As I said, not WHAT you are doing - I have gone out in Cork City, Kilkenny, and even Wexford (which is a small enough town in comparison with not much employment either) and the atmosphere has been a lot better! It isn't about what you can do, Waterford just has a crap atmosphere for the most part, and it is very quiet compared to other surrounding places. Other places have a good selection of venues while most Waterford bars are in and around the same atmosphere, not much jumping out if you're new here. Nothing more or less, just one persons opinion on the place, if you don't agree, fair enough, but I'm entitled to think that.

    Will agree above also, the only bands Waterford really tends to have on a regular basis are a few local bands that, although talented, won't suit everyones taste. There isn't a huge amount of variety, and there are no good live music venues that will cater to more than just the average popular music bands that play.

    fair enough if you think there is poor atmosphere, personal opinion so whatever. So boring was the wrong word to use, atmosphere is what you meant. Waterford would have more music going on, pubs and clubs than kk and wexford. if you are looking for alternative bands then we we (anywhere outside of Dublin) would be limited. Most bands have to play to the masses. check out o emperor and solar taxi, a bit alternative, i like em and play locally a good bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭thomasm


    therealme wrote: »
    Excuse ME....I SAW it happen, one thing I do NOT do is lie.

    It was just outside The Woodman.

    I sorry but I find it hard to believe the guards would walk right past someone getting there head kicked in on the street. What happens if the victim had died or suffered serious life long injuries, would they then be negligent for not doing there job. There has to be more to this.


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    thomasm wrote: »
    I sorry but I find it hard to believe the guards would walk right past someone getting there head kicked in on the street. What happens if the victim had died or suffered serious life long injuries, would they then be negligent for not doing there job. There has to be more to this.

    I could tell you stories way worse than that about our force but that's for another thread. I have seen the exact same thing on a few occasions from my years of living in town, don't believe it if you want to be that naive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭therealme


    thomasm wrote: »
    I sorry but I find it hard to believe the guards would walk right past someone getting there head kicked in on the street. What happens if the victim had died or suffered serious life long injuries, would they then be negligent for not doing there job. There has to be more to this.

    Jeeez, I'm not replying to this anymore - I SAW IT HAPPEN, I AM NOT MAKING IT UP.

    To be honest, I have never seen anything remotely like it in Dublin/Cork?Kilkenny - they are generally the cities I go out in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭thomasm


    I could tell you stories way worse than that about our force but that's for another thread. I have seen the exact same thing on a few occasions from my years of living in town, don't believe it if you want to be that naive.

    I've seen the cops on plenty of occasions putting themselves into harms way to break up stuff like this. There has to be something more to this ! Perhaps they knew they guys involved and thought they are only scum so let them at it. You seeing this on a few occasions over the years does not make it the norm. Then again I'm not out in town much over the last few years so maybe things have changed in this regard


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭CuriousG


    Max Powers wrote: »
    fair enough if you think there is poor atmosphere, personal opinion so whatever. So boring was the wrong word to use, atmosphere is what you meant. Waterford would have more music going on, pubs and clubs than kk and wexford. if you are looking for alternative bands then we we (anywhere outside of Dublin) would be limited. Most bands have to play to the masses. check out o emperor and solar taxi, a bit alternative, i like em and play locally a good bit.


    No, boring was the right word to use, because that describes the atmosphere.

    Anyway, agree to disagree, and enough about semantics.

    No, they and the Unusual Suspects or whatever are literally the three bands that play in WD, and they're good, I won't question that, but a bit of variety wouldn't kill the place. I'm not really into Alternative as such, would prefer something a bit heavier so maybe I'm just picky, but any other place I've been to has catered for that and Waterford rarely has.

    There are definitely more venues in Wexford in my opinion, and have only been to KK once so can't speak widely but still better atmosphere in my exp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,245 ✭✭✭old gregg


    Posted on this topic a few times but I've lived in Waterford for years on and off and nearly always go to Dublin for a night out because the music scene in Waterford is pretty poor. Nearly always has been as long as I've lived here. Folks just don't go out and support live music. Personally I'm going through it at the moment trying to help organise SAW Fest for next month. Plenty of outside interest from artists and our hopefully happy audience once they've attended next month, but from within Waterford? Very little. Hardly any local artists were interested in taking part in an international festival (and consider that exposure for them), very few local 'Likes' on our FB page and most of our funders on Fundit don't even live in Ireland. But what do you do but keep plugging away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Nypd


    It is now 8pm. I am away from wife and kids and want to make the most of it.

    Walked toward John Street (I think) where there is a basically pubs everywhere. I looked into every pub and I would say that 90% were completely empty or had maybe a handful of patrons around a table chatting.


    I was in my bed by 11.30pm.

    Waterford.....is that it? is that the best you have to offer?

    I dont care if it was a Wednesday night. That is no excuse for a "city". It is no more than a provincial market town at best. Sorry but it was a fairly crap experience.

    You went to bed too early,
    Johns street normally comes alive around that time.
    The live music venues advertise their bands starting at 11/11.30
    Kasbar and Geoffs would normally have a few in around at the times you mentioned.

    Waterford is having a very rough time at the moment and there is a lot of people working hard trying to help the old girl back on her feet.
    I know they say first impressions last but hopefully someday we can change your mind.


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