Irish retailers.

eireannBEAR

Why are some irish retailers still refusing to offer value,back in the day they were all at it,Today i went to a closing down sale to find that the stock was only marked 20% off,even when they are going out of business they would rather throw the products out than offer value.

Up until aldi and lidl entered the marked,we were being ripped off by these stores its despicable.{homstead missed a beat not opening their own stores}

Since the horse meat scandal fresh meat prices have gone through the roof,its not like stores are running out of meat,expired packets of meat are still being thrown out. you would think if anything they would be keeping the prices the same if not lower,meat is in demand but not at a shortage.

its just like a couple of years ago when petrol prices went through the roof,so people switched to diesel and even though diesel contains less oil than petrol they manage to raise the price to that of petrol ''just to spit in the face of consumers''.

its not right,and yet these local business are protected for ripping us off,in a few towns i know of councils have refused aldi or tesco's planning permission to protect local business. at the expense of the community and in jobs.

athtrasna

So you wanted to benefit from someone's misfortune in losing their livelihood and were not happy at the level of reduction. And all of a sudden it's a blanket criticism of Irish retailers. Nice.

A shop going out of business will do so with massive debts. These don't disappear when the business closes, so they try to maximise income and minimise liabilities such as VAT at the end. Contrary to what you think, selling everything off cheaply is not the best way to do that.

Local businesses are not generally trying to rip people off. I come from a family where there are a number of shops around the country, different types so I have fair knowledge of how they are run.

One example was a ladder Lidl were selling at €19.99 in their stores a while back. My family member with a hardware store couldn't even buy them at cost for less than €22 before VAT, and a contribution to the running costs of the shop (staff, vat, insurance, rates, light, heat) and that's before a single cent of profit. Because he was one shop buying maybe six at a time from the importer. Lidl would buy tens of thousands at least. Bulk buying massively reduces the costs.

Local businesses, particularly shops, try to supply the community, to provide the products locals need, and to make enough income so that they can provide for themselves and their families and use the services of other local companies, hire local people in their businesses. They struggle to compete with the likes of Lidl and Aldi and that's why hundreds of businesses are closing every month. And I for one don't think that's a good thing.

Incidentally, the price of diesel increasing is to do with taxation, not the petrol stations.

eireannBEAR

i dont for one minute accept this,many local owned business in mortgage or rent free premises,still charge 20 or 30% more than other bigger shops for branded goods,they charge what they believe they can get away it,but obviously they are not as smart as they think,as thankfully most of these greedy businesses are on the decline.

there is no excuse for it.

rubadub

eireannBEAR wrote: »

i went to a closing down sale to find that the stock was only marked 20% off,even when they are going out of business they would rather throw the products out than offer value.

What makes you think they are throwing them out? what was this shop name and what the business is (if not obvious).

If it was say a hardware shop they might have an agreement with another shop to sell all the unsold stock to them and decide where to place the % themselves.

eireannBEAR wrote: »

its not like stores are running out of meat,expired packets of meat are still being thrown out.

The meat near expiry is sold off in my local tesco. I know a guy who worked in a deli counter in another supermarket and they cooked the food which was near its use by.

eireannBEAR wrote: »

still charge 20 or 30% more than other bigger shops for branded goods

They might be paying 50% more than the big shops. WHen online selling got more popular you used to hear of people moaning that the shops would not match the online price they found, but they could well have made a loss if they did. yet ironically the disgruntled shopper would head off saying "your loss", when they refused to sell at a loss.

athtrasna

eireannBEAR wrote: »

i dont for one minute accept this,many local owned business in mortgage or rent free premises,still charge 20 or 30% more than other bigger shops for branded goods,they charge what they believe they can get away it,but obviously they are not as smart as they think,as thankfully most of these greedy businesses are on the decline.

there is no excuse for it.

Rates, insurance, heat, light, staff costs - do you have any idea HOW much those cost :eek: Clearly not. The big international retailers often get special deals from utility suppliers again for bulk, they also have purpose built facilities which are more efficient to heat and light than local businesses.

Whether you accept it or not, local businesses are there to service the locality, not to rip people off - I'm talking as someone with some genuine knowledge here.

If you don't like it, shop elsewhere, in the big companies that take their profits out of the country, the ones who have lowered the price farmers are getting for their dairy and meat products that many of them are also going out of business too. Nobody forces you to shop local, if you don't like it, vote with your feet.

eireannBEAR

athtrasna wrote: »

Rates, insurance, heat, light, staff costs - do you have any idea HOW much those cost :eek: Clearly not. The big international retailers often get special deals from utility suppliers again for bulk, they also have purpose built facilities which are more efficient to heat and light than local businesses.

Whether you accept it or not, local businesses are there to service the locality, not to rip people off - I'm talking as someone with some genuine knowledge here.

If you don't like it, shop elsewhere, in the big companies that take their profits out of the country, the ones who have lowered the price farmers are getting for their dairy and meat products that many of them are also going out of business too. Nobody forces you to shop local, if you don't like it, vote with your feet.

What are the costs to run a small corner shop in an owned building? you do understand that a lot of these ''rip off'' business employ no one and dont even open on a sunday?

rubadub

Even if they got all employeess and overheads for free they still might not be able to compete.

From 2009

Boxes of Pampers nappies that are being sold at €25 to Irish retailers are available for €10 in Britain. The Sunday Business Post sourced cases of Coca-Cola that typically sell for €9 in Ireland for €5.60 (»5) in Britain.

Price lists acquired by this newspaper showed a huge disparity in the prices which suppliers in Ireland are charging retailers compared to the prices British suppliers are charging.

‘‘The prices differences are huge, but this should not let the big retailers like Tesco with pan-European buying power off the hook,” said one medium sized independent retailer One large retailer said it had approached the British outfits directly, but many refused to open an account that bypassed the Irish office.

‘‘It is important to remember that the Irish market is extremely small, so when there is trouble, they simply shrug their shoulders,” he said.

‘‘They have passively decided they are not going to do anything about it.” The retailer said he felt ‘‘absolutely powerless. The finger is consistently being pointed at us for being too expensive, but the vast majority of us are not making huge profits’’......

REI said a comprehensive survey of 20,000 products found that the Euro supplier price was less than the UK supplier price in less than 1 per cent of cases.

‘‘Something is seriously wrong when standard grocery brands are up to 250 per cent more expensive when sourced by retailers in Ireland than in Britain,” Fitzsimons said

‘‘The anti-competitive practice of many fashion and cosmetic brand owners who refuse to allow Irish retailers to buy in sterling, instead insisting on euro payment at a premium of sometimes 50 per cent on the sterling price, will in effect lead to significant business closures.......

Publicans (most knowingly) wrongly make out that everybody pays the same wholesale price, this is why they go on about supermarket below cost selling, while they can provide no evidence of it being widespread. In the UK it was investigated and below cost selling was VERY rare.

Some UK based shops can avail of these huge differences in wholesale prices.

Del2005

eireannBEAR wrote: »

Why are some irish retailers still refusing to offer value,back in the day they were all at it,Today i went to a closing down sale to find that the stock was only marked 20% off,even when they are going out of business they would rather throw the products out than offer value.

Any stock not sold during the sale will be disposed of by the liquidator at auction after the shop closes. With banks in the recent past making business owners sign personal guarantees while taking out business loans the small retailer risks loosing their home if they can't clear the debt with the disposal of the shop and it's contents.

eireannBEAR wrote: »

Up until aldi and lidl entered the marked,we were being ripped off by these stores its despicable.{homstead missed a beat not opening their own stores}

Since the horse meat scandal fresh meat prices have gone through the roof,its not like stores are running out of meat,expired packets of meat are still being thrown out. you would think if anything they would be keeping the prices the same if not lower,meat is in demand but not at a shortage.

its just like a couple of years ago when petrol prices went through the roof,so people switched to diesel and even though diesel contains less oil than petrol they manage to raise the price to that of petrol ''just to spit in the face of consumers''.

its not right,and yet these local business are protected for ripping us off,in a few towns i know of councils have refused aldi or tesco's planning permission to protect local business. at the expense of the community and in jobs.

How much does it cost you, it both money and your personal time, to get to these shops selling cheaper items. I look at the cost to myself as well as my wallet when I buy things. Something could be €5 cheaper than a local shop, but it'll cost you a lot more in time and fuel to buy it.

eireannBEAR

A typical sheeple attitude is rising here,we all know they rip consumers off,get real.

rubadub

eireannBEAR wrote: »

,we all know they rip consumers off

That's the sheeple attitude if anything, blindly believing they are making a fortune based on prices in other shops. The ripoff forum is full of it, its very rare to see a genuine ripoff which is worthwhile alerting people of.

eireannBEAR

rubadub wrote: »

That's the sheeple attitude if anything, blindly believing they are making a fortune based on prices in other shops. The ripoff forum is full of it, its very rare to see a genuine ripoff which is worthwhile alerting people of.

i dont think they are making a fortune...they were back in the 90s but not now,and i think charging an elderly person with no car an extra 50c or 1e on each item is a rip off. i know many shops that do this. they charge more because they have no competition in their local area.

athtrasna

eireannBEAR wrote: »

i dont think they are making a fortune...they were back in the 90s but not now,and i think charging an elderly person with no car an extra 50c or 1e on each item is a rip off. i know many shops that do this. they charge more because they have no competition in their local area.

You "know" that If you can prove it, then I will believe it.

Sofiztikated

eireannBEAR wrote: »

A typical sheeple attitude is rising here,we all know they rip consumers off,get real.

And with that particular phrase, any argument has been rendered null and void, and most intelligent people will write your off as a crank.

eireannBEAR

athtrasna wrote: »

You "know" that If you can prove it, then I will believe it.

yup anyone who lives in the country are aware of this,you dont have to answer but are you from dublin?

athtrasna

eireannBEAR wrote: »

yup anyone who lives in the country are aware of this,you dont have to answer but are you from dublin?

FWIW - I'm not. I have indepth knowledge and personal experience in shops from corner shops and supermarkets to household and hardware stores all over the country. Actual facts, and figures, real people, real stories.

These are the people who answer the door on Christmas Day when someone runs out of gas, or have forgotten to buy batteries for the toys (usually the people who shop in Lidl etc but come local when they actually need something). The people who sponsor local clubs and festivals, who donate to local charities, all in the spirit of community. The people that Tesco and Lidl and Aldi and people like you are forcing out of business. I don't know a single shopkeeper who wanted to "rip anyone off".

Your speculation borders on cruel, it's supposition not fact. You have yet to prove your accusation "yup anyone who lives in the country are aware of this" is not proof.

dudara

@eireannBEAR Please contribute constructively to the discussion, rather than replying with generalisations like "sheeple" and asking people where they are from.

dudara

Del2005

eireannBEAR wrote: »

i dont think they are making a fortune...they were back in the 90s but not now,and i think charging an elderly person with no car an extra 50c or 1e on each item is a rip off. i know many shops that do this. they charge more because they have no competition in their local area.

So they pay an extra few Euro to purchase in a shop they can walk too rather than run an expensive car, which will be at least €1000 per annum with tax/insurance/fuel/servicing and repairs. If I could do that I'd be much happier. Don't a lot of local shops offer free delivery now? While the majors charge.

The reason why these shops are more expensive is that it cost them more to buy the products. The big companies can go direct to manufactures and get major bulk discounts. The average shop keeper will have to go the cash and carry to buy the stock they need. The cash and carry's may not even buy direct from a manufacture. So for an item to reach your local shop it may have passed through 4 or 5 other businesses, including haulage, whereas the major supermarket deals direct with the manufacturer and has their own distribution centre. How can a local shop match this and still survive.

MBSnr

Just to wade in... Sometimes I really don't think the local shops help themselves. I'm not talking about pricing/expense of items as such as much of that is out of their control. The issue I find most with my local shops is that they don't display their pricing in a clear manner or it's incorrect and out of date! I generally don't have any idea how much some things cost until I get to the till. If all the prices where listed correctly (surely not too much of a task), then I could decide whether it's worth my while travelling further to save a few Euro. As it is, I get frustrated and think, you know what, I'll get it in Tesco's when I next pass it.

My local Spar (no receipts given out so can't tell what was at what price), my local hardware store (where they print everything on an A4 multilayer duplicate receipt - surely these cost money to buy in?), a medium size supermarket and many others all have this issue. It seems to be a rural shop thing where displayed prices are optional....

eireannBEAR

MBSnr wrote: »

Just to wade in... Sometimes I really don't think the local shops help themselves. I'm not talking about pricing/expense of items as such as much of that is out of their control. The issue I find most with my local shops is that they don't display their pricing in a clear manner or it's incorrect and out of date! I generally don't have any idea how much some things cost until I get to the till. If all the prices where listed correctly (surely not too much of a task), then I could decide whether it's worth my while travelling further to save a few Euro. As it is, I get frustrated and think, you know what, I'll get it in Tesco's when I next pass it.

My local Spar (no receipts given out so can't tell what was at what price), my local hardware store (where they print everything on an A4 multilayer duplicate receipt - surely these cost money to buy in?), a medium size supermarket and many others all have this issue. It seems to be a rural shop thing where displayed prices are optional....

have you never gone in to a local shop and paid 10 or 12e for four items that would of cost you 6 or 7e in a super market??

they can offer better value,its just some of them refuse to.

MBSnr

eireannBEAR wrote: »

have you never gone in to a local shop and paid 10 or 12e for four items that would of cost you 6 or 7e in a super market??

they can offer better value,its just some of them refuse to.

Yes I have paid over the odds to get a few items and been shocked at the price. Could they offer it at a lower price and provide better value? I'd imagine some could if they amended their business practices. However 'knowing' my local Spar franchise, they would still charge the same price even if they reduced their overheads... They have no competition in or around the local area, they know it, so why would they bother offering better value?

Also I get the distinct impression many shops operate the same as they have always for years. I guess if they managed to still be open in 2013 they aren't about to change anything now.

dudara

eireannBEAR wrote: »

have you never gone in to a local shop and paid 10 or 12e for four items that would of cost you 6 or 7e in a super market??

Yes, but there is a massive difference in the operating models between a local neighbourhood store and a multiple retailer. There are certain cost differences that just can't be overcome.

they can offer better value,its just some of them refuse to.

I do agree that some of the local retailers could offer "better" value, I just think they can't offer the same value.

SpaceTime

OP:

Businesses open to make a profit, not to provide good value. They only provide cheap prices where there's a market for those cheap prices and where they have to offer cheap prices.

In more competitive markets, like the US and say Germany, prices are lower because they're more competitive.

I'd suggest you read up on elasticity of demand !

eireannBEAR

i still cant grasp how homestead never opened public shops!!!
at one stage they had 4000 products,could you imaging if they copied the aldi or lidl platform in ireland during the 80s and 90s!

SpaceTime

Because homestead are just a private label supplier. I'd assume they were quite comfortably making a profit and doing OK as just that and didn't need to open shops.

Even Centra and SuperValu don't own shops. They're a 'symbol group' which means they're just a name above the door, a marketing, purchasing and distribution system and a local retailer owns the shop.

Homestead could have opened stores, but clearly that's not their business model.

Lidl could open a wholesale supply business, but that's not what they've opted to do either.

LowKeyReturn

Tesco make roughly 7% margin on your shop. Let be generous and say it's gone to 10%. How is a small corner shop, and we're not talking about franchises here which have buying power through the franchise, supposed to survive on a 10% margin?

Even if they are pulling in €10,000 a week which is highly unlikely they're making €1000 profit before VAT and overheads.

Even Spar et al aren't profitable running at the margins Tesco do, even if they could avail of the wholesale prices Tesco can, which for the most part they can't. It's simply an economy of scale.

You want the Walmart phenomenon happening in rural Ireland OP?

eireannBEAR

LowKeyReturn wrote: »

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You want the Walmart phenomenon happening in rural Ireland OP?

we have this already with aldi and lidl.

my objection is the protection the receive from local councils,at the cost of a big supermarket that would create more jobs and offer better value.

LowKeyReturn

I don't know who Homestead are but have you any idea of the cost of selling to individual punters in wages costs alone? For some businesses adding that to their business model simply doesn't make sense.

LowKeyReturn

eireannBEAR wrote: »

we have this already with aldi and lidl.

Oh no we dont. Aldi and Lidl do not open gigantic superstores specifically to close out local markets. Once the local town is decimated, close their operation and centralise it to the nearest major city and increase their prices.

Which is WHY local councils protect small businesses. You're already complaining about lack of competition. Why do you thing a large supermarket would do anything different without competition?

eireannBEAR

LowKeyReturn wrote: »

I don't know who Homestead are but have you any idea of the cost of selling to individual punters in wages costs alone? For some businesses adding that to their business model simply doesn't make sense.

you never heard of homestead,did you not grow up with their products?

enricoh

A new supermarket in a small town reduces jobs not adds jobs. As the local butcher's, greengrocers etc closes the market for local vedg growers, bakers disappears.
Go to north co.dublin n see all the empty glasshouses, used to be packed with people working n u now get your dutch tomatoes in tesco, lidl etc

eireannBEAR

enricoh wrote: »

A new supermarket in a small town reduces jobs not adds jobs. As the local butcher's, greengrocers etc closes the market for local vedg growers, bakers disappears.
Go to north co.dublin n see all the empty glasshouses, used to be packed with people working n u now get your dutch tomatoes in tesco, lidl etc

you have to understand we are talking about small towns,aldi and lidl have been opened in kildare for 10 years,and we have not lost one butcher or important shop in that time.

we lost a couple of little family news agents,but 2 out of 3 of those families have opened up different business.

at one time you couldnt buy a pair of socks in kildare now you dont need to leave the town,these big shops opened the town up to new businesses and attracted commuters and shoppers.

lala88

If the people that are worried about not competition are really that worried about it why not open your own shop and run it at a loss then.

Also its funny to see the same people agreeing with one another when something like this comes up. Prime example being foggy_lad, maybe him eireannBEAR could go into business together

eireannBEAR

lala88 wrote: »

If the people that are worried about not competition are really that worried about it why not open your own shop and run it at a loss then.

Also its funny to see the same people agreeing with one another when something like this comes up. Prime example being foggy_lad, maybe him eireannBEAR could go into business together

oh smart comment. :rolleyes:

people in kildare had to travel to newbridge for their shopping before we got these supermarkets the locals couldnt afford to shop in the town.

i think its funny that posters have contempt for the general public,i think maybe you are too young to remember ireland before the boom,its sad really.

lala88

eireannBEAR wrote: »

oh smart comment. :rolleyes:

people in kildare had to travel to newbridge for their shopping before we got these supermarkets the locals couldnt afford to shop in the town.

i think its funny that posters have contempt for the general public,i think maybe you are too young to remember ireland before the boom,its sad really.

They couldnt afford to shop in the town? Are you actually for real? By the time they had paid for travel they would have spent more anyway, something you've been told a number of times but have ignored, i wonder why they is?

As has been said before its tight money garbing people that are the real greedy people and are putting small businees out of business all so you can save small amounts of money

eireannBEAR

lala88 wrote: »

They couldnt afford to shop in the town? Are you actually for real? By the time they had paid for travel they would have spent more anyway, something you've been told a number of times but have ignored, i wonder why they is?

As has been said before its tight money garbing people that are the real greedy people and are putting small businees out of business all so you can save small amounts of money

you dont have a clue what you are talking about,a weeks shopping would have been 40% more expensive in kildare than newbridge,most people had no money in the early 90s. most of us lived on streaky rashers and mash for dinner. :rolleyes:

i find your posts offensive and i do not wish to talk to you any further.

you have seem to have forgotten what country you come from.

lala88

eireannBEAR wrote: »

you dont have a clue what you are talking about,a weeks shopping would have been 40% more expensive in kildare than newbridge,most people had no money in the early 90s. most of us lived on streaky rashers and mash for dinner. :rolleyes:

i find your posts offensive and i do not wish to talk to you any further.

you have seem to have forgotten what country you come from.

I think you'll find its you that havent a clue what your talking about. Thats been shown a number of times now and you've ignored everyone of them.

So they had no money to buy shopping in there own town yet they had to travel to another town?

You dont want to talk anymore? Bit like the way your not replying to the people who have proved you wrong?

Also surprise surprise your fanboy is the only one liking your comments

eireannBEAR

lala88 wrote: »

I think you'll find its you that havent a clue what your talking about. Thats been shown a number of times now and you've ignored everyone of them.

So they had no money to buy shopping in there own town yet they had to travel to another town?

You dont want to talk anymore? Bit like the way your not replying to the people who have proved you wrong?

a bus ticket was 80p and you save 40 pound. these posters are talking about bits and bobs in 2013 if you tried to do shopping for a family in a local shop in the 90s you would of needed a very good income.


your posts are incredibly foolish and misguided you suggest these people were putting local business in danger when it was a choice of shopping in kildare or going to newbridge,so one would have enough money left to buy school books.

you are extremely ignorant to the realities of ireland pre-boom.

also if it wasnt for the arrival of tesco and the like,we probably still would be eating rashers and mash for dinner.

the arrival of these brands heralded the years of consumer power!

SteM

eireannBEAR wrote: »

Why are some irish retailers still refusing to offer value,back in the day they were all at it,Today i went to a closing down sale to find that the stock was only marked 20% off,even when they are going out of business they would rather throw the products out than offer value.

Do you really think the stuff would be thrown out when the sale is over? Do you think that real business is like an episode of The Apprentice where they just sell stock off at a loss just to get rid of it by the end of the day?

pleasant Co.

lala88 wrote: »

Also its funny to see the same people agreeing with one another when something like this comes up.

Your posts on these matters are typically entirely pro-business/anti-consumer, there's hundreds of examples in your post history where you jump straight to blaming the customer - often without even taking the time to read a thread - you're certainly no bastion of impartiality in any case.

dudara

@lala88 Please refrain from attacking other posters.

@All posters I will leave this thread open only as long as there is constructive debate. Right now it feels like a National School playground. I will close this thread very quickly if you continue to aggravate and nitpick at each other.

dudara

eireannBEAR

SteM wrote: »

Do you really think the stuff would be thrown out when the sale is over? Do you think that real business is like an episode of The Apprentice where they just sell stock off at a loss just to get rid of it by the end of the day?

Not all the time but in some cases yes,i have witnessed it,and when i worked in retail security i often helped with throwing away stock,its a disgraceful waste you would imaging the food would be giving to charities.

lala88

pleasant Co. wrote: »

Your posts on these matters are typically entirely pro-business/anti-consumer, there's hundreds of examples in your post history where you jump straight to blaming the customer - often without even taking the time to read a thread - you're certainly no bastion of impartiality in any case.

anti consumer? if you were to look at most of the ''consumer issues'' or ''rip off'' threads you'll find more often then not it is the consumer that is in the wrong but people like you will defend them all the time.

foggy_lad is a prime example of this, everything is the businesses fault and iv seen plenty of examples of him telling others to lie to put the business in the wrong. In every thread is always blames the business but you seem to have no problem with that.

eireannBEAR have been shown to be wrong a number of times yet you still have no problem with him ignoring that. You also have no problem with him making claims with nothing to back them up, apart from comments like ''sure everyone whos they do it'' or ''i see it all the time'' if it was the other way around you would demand the person to have proof. This is another example of boards being bias, if its something that the mods agree with the anti band can say what they like but if someone disagrees there told they have to have proof etc.

As for being pro business, you a lot of others seem to forget that there are business there not in the business to bend over backwards and give out things for free and if they dont there bashed on here because they dont get there way. This thread of just one example of the anti business band who seem to thing every business is out to get them, there classic quote ''there only out to make money'' what else are they out to do? make a loss so people like you and foggy_lad will get what they want for less?

Even look at the OP on this thread, complain about a business thats closing down not selling there stuff for less. As much as mods will deny it but boards.ie as a whole are highly anti business (apart from ones that have something to do with boards, ie adverts.ie)

eireannBEAR

lala88 wrote: »

anti consumer? if you were to look at most of the ''consumer issues'' or ''rip off'' threads you'll find more often then not it is the consumer that is in the wrong but people like you will defend them all the time.

foggy_lad is a prime example of this, everything is the businesses fault and iv seen plenty of examples of him telling others to lie to put the business in the wrong. In every thread is always blames the business but you seem to have no problem with that.

eireannBEAR have been shown to be wrong a number of times yet you still have no problem with him ignoring that. You also have no problem with him making claims with nothing to back them up, apart from comments like ''sure everyone whos they do it'' or ''i see it all the time'' if it was the other way around you would demand the person to have proof. This is another example of boards being bias, if its something that the mods agree with the anti band can say what they like but if someone disagrees there told they have to have proof etc.

As for being pro business, you a lot of others seem to forget that there are business there not in the business to bend over backwards and give out things for free and if they dont there bashed on here because they dont get there way. This thread of just one example of the anti business band who seem to thing every business is out to get them, there classic quote ''there only out to make money'' what else are they out to do? make a loss so people like you and foggy_lad will get what they want for less?

Every look at the OP on this thread, complain about a business thats closing down not selling there stuff for less. As much as mods will deny it but boards.ie as a whole are highly anti business (apart from ones that have something to do with boards, ie adverts.ie)

So now your attacking the whole boards.ie site,im not being smart but your posts seem to be aimed at causing trouble can you tone it down or please not post on my thread.

lala88

eireannBEAR wrote: »

So now your attacking the whole boards.ie site,im not being smart but your posts seem to be aimed at causing trouble can you tone it down or please not post on my thread.

did you not say you were not replying anymore?

Coming from the person whos attacking all small businesses and saying there ripping people off?

Also your thread? Do you own it? Do you own the internet?

eireannBEAR

lala88 wrote: »

did you not say you were not replying anymore?

Coming from the person whos attacking all small businesses and saying there ripping people off?

Also your thread? Do you own it? Do you own the internet?

i asked you nicely the mod already warned you,you could end up with a ban. now thats my final post on the matter.

i will only be posting on subject after this.

athtrasna

eireannBEAR wrote: »

i asked you nicely the mod already warned you,you could end up with a ban. now thats my final post on the matter.

i will only be posting on subject after this.

I believe the mods prefer to be the only people who moderate threads, and I don't see that word beside your name :rolleyes:

eireannBEAR

athtrasna wrote: »

I believe the mods prefer to be the only people who moderate threads, and I don't see that word beside your name :rolleyes:

i didnt mod this thread at all but after the mods warning of closing it,i think its fair to point these issues out dont you?

athtrasna

eireannBEAR wrote: »

i didnt mod this thread at all but after the mods warning of closing it,i think its fair to point these issues out dont you?

Nope I leave it to them..that's their job. I use the report post button where necessary. Next step the ignore button.

eireannBEAR

athtrasna wrote: »

Nope I leave it to them..that's their job. I use the report post button where necessary. Next step the ignore button.

i find it strange that you called my post out instead of the aggressive one attacking the whole boards site and their mods.

lala88

eireannBEAR wrote: »

i asked you nicely the mod already warned you,you could end up with a ban. now thats my final post on the matter.

i will only be posting on subject after this.

Like iv said you've been proved to be wrong and just ignore anyone who says anything you dont like so your hardly posting on the subject now are you?

LowKeyReturn

Jesus where's the cheapest place to buy a handbag, I assume I'll need one posting in here again.

Capitalism is a wonderful thing, if you don't like it shop somewhere else. If you're without you own transport, Tesco deliver.

Expecting a local shop to compete with Lild and Aldi is simply naive.