Bus crash in India - 18 confirmed dead

snubbleste

http://gulftoday.ae/portal/b426c9f2-c1fa-4bbd-bd96-f0d4ed847091.aspx

Less than a week ago, horrifying stuff What shook me was:

The crash killed four woman and 14 men on the truck, he said. Four others were injured, one of them critically.

Just thought it was strange to happen in the same week as the Santiago de Compostela train crash. Thoughts & prayers with the families.

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Super-Rush

Seriously who cares?

FatherLen

Super-Rush wrote: »

Seriously who cares?

......you can't be serious

snubbleste

Super-Rush wrote: »

Seriously who cares?

The families and friends of those killed and those critically injured. In addition the loved ones, work colleagues and support network of those injured and any passer-by who happened to see the incident. All those who may have had travel plans disrupted in rural Karnataka as a result of the incident. Also we must think of the emergency services at this time and the vital service that they provide and the daily trauma they witness..

Faith+1

Super-Rush wrote: »

Seriously who cares?

Awful comment.

Daniel2590

snubbleste wrote: »

The families and friends of those killed and those critically injured. In addition the loved ones, work colleagues and support network of those injured and any passer-by who happened to see the incident. All those who may have had travel plans disrupted in rural Karnataka as a result of the incident. Also we must think of the emergency services at this time and the vital service that they provide and the daily trauma they witness..

Yes but what's the likelihood any of those people are on this forum?

Mr Benevolent

Meh. Might as well be on Pluto. I have far more important things to worry about. Next we'll have threads about some poor child in the Philippines who stubbed their little toe.

My name is URL

snubbleste wrote: »

http://gulftoday.ae/portal/b426c9f2-c1fa-4bbd-bd96-f0d4ed847091.aspx

Less than a week ago, horrifying stuff What shook me was:

Just thought it was strange to happen in the same week as the Santiago de Compostela train crash. Thoughts & prayers with the families.

It's India, so not that strange. Over a million people are killed on roads there every year.

snubbleste

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

Meh. Might as well be on Pluto. I have far more important things to worry about. Next we'll have threads about some poor child in the Philippines who stubbed their little toe.

The point is that Western lives 'appear' more important than Oriental lives.
This did not make the news here at all, yet a fatal bus crash in Italy is the main news story which prompts someone to start a sympathetic thread on boards about it.

irelandrover

snubbleste wrote: »

The point is that Western lives 'appear' more important than Oriental lives.
This did not make the news here at all, yet a fatal bus crash in Italy is the main news story which prompts someone to start a sympathetic thread on boards about it.

In that area the buses drive like crazy. It is not at all surprising that this happened. Accidents are so common they dont make the local news there.

Jonny7

snubbleste wrote: »

The point is that Western lives 'appear' more important than Oriental lives.
This did not make the news here at all, yet a fatal bus crash in Italy is the main news story which prompts someone to start a sympathetic thread on boards about it.

It's not about importance it's about newsworthiness

SEPT 23 1989

I don't really care either

xXxkorixXx

Super-Rush wrote: »

Seriously who cares?

my hubby closed his account because of bullying from you on here when you were an after hours mod. you banned him for comments far less offensive than what you just posted.
lets see if you get banned now

jam_mac_jam

Amazing the amount of people who feel they have to state they don't care about people dying.. would you not just not post about it. I wonder would anybody say the same about the Italy bus crash? Should we only talk about things that directly effect people on AHs?

gallag

To be fair I would imagine super rush's response was more about the thread in general as it is an obvious "nobody cares about the brown people" parody thread. Yes we care more about the 38 people who died in Italy, more chance of family and friends there and culturally they are closer, also a million people die in rta's every year in india si it is far more common there.

xXxkorixXx

xXxkorixXx wrote: »

my hubby closed his account because of bullying from you on here when you were an after hours mod. you banned him for comments far less offensive than what you just posted.
lets see if you get banned now

You do realize there's strict guidelines for bullying. If your hubby believed there was bullying going on, then they should have contacted the site's team and they would have done something about it.

This kind of thread annoys me.. "Oh, you care so much about someone being killed in X than you do in Y". Or whatever. The sad fact of the matter is that people die every day. It's near impossible to keep track of it. And stories in the Western world get more publicity or attention because the chances are that there's a higher chance of people knowing someone involved here than over there. Or whatever. The OP said it happened a week ago. If they actually cared about it, they would have created a thread when it happened, instead of waiting until now just to prove a point.

Sauve

gallag wrote: »

it is far more common there.

What's that got to do with it?
Every single life that was taken, whether in India, Spain, or Italy is just as valuable as yours or mine is.

P_1

Super-Rush wrote: »

Seriously who cares?

Certainly a harsh comment to read but I guess it's indicative as to how the location of various accidents/deaths/tragedies happens to affect people's reactions to it.

I guess it stands to reason that people are more likely to care about an individual accident/death/tragedy in the order of:
In home county -> in Ireland -> abroad with Irish people involved -> in the UK -> in Europe -> in North America -> in Oceania -> in the Middle East -> in Russia -> in South America -> in Asia -> in Africa.

The closer to home something happens the more empathy tends to be shown.

gallag

Sauve wrote: »

What's that got to do with it?
Every single life that was taken, whether in India, Spain, or Italy is just as valuable as yours or mine is.

No, if I heard of someone starving to death in dublin it would cause me more upset than a person starving to death in Africa, it would also get far more media attention which would suggest most people would agree with me. Its human nature and although you can pretend it does not happen it does.

Super-Rush

xXxkorixXx wrote: »

my hubby closed his account because of bullying from you on here when you were an after hours mod. you banned him for comments far less offensive than what you just posted.
lets see if you get banned now

Boo hoo.



I didn't mean that i don't care that people died. I'm not that bad ffs.

It was in relation to something that happened nearly a week ago in India. Does AH need to be the dumping ground for every thing that happens.

Gummy Panda

I don't care either.

Plug

I don't care either:(

Amirani

xXxkorixXx wrote: »

my hubby closed his account because of bullying from you on here when you were an after hours mod. you banned him for comments far less offensive than what you just posted.
lets see if you get banned now

Offensive? Really? Please explain how you were offended by the post and why you think it's worthy of a ban.

rubadub

Sauve wrote: »

What's that got to do with it?
Every single life that was taken, whether in India, Spain, or Italy is just as valuable as yours or mine is.

It is not as newsworthy as it is far more common. I have seen similar threads with this feigned ignorance, or perhaps people truly are ignorant about it, I really hope they are just acting though.

http://www.mediacollege.com/journalism/news/newsworthy.html

What Makes a Story Newsworthy?

3. Proximity
Stories which happen near to us have more significance. The closer the story to home, the more newsworthy it is. For someone living in France, a major plane crash in the USA has a similar news value to a small plane crash near Paris.

Note that proximity doesn't have to mean geographical distance. Stories from countries with which we have a particular bond or similarity have the same effect. For example, Australians would be expected to relate more to a story from a distant Western nation than a story from a much closer Asian country.

http://www.dw.de/india-has-the-highest-number-of-road-accidents-in-the-world/a-5519345

In India alone, the death toll rose to 14 per hour in 2009 as opposed to 13 the previous year. The total number of deaths every year due to road accidents has now passed the 135,000 mark, according to the latest report of National Crime Records Bureau or NCRB.

In a similar thread I said

rubadub wrote: »

Some vegans would view all life as equal, who say they would be just as upset no matter what life was lost.

There was far less coverage of the ant massacre I carried out last year, I must have killed a few hundred. None of the papers & tv stations were interested in my story, Reuters actually laughed at me. Perhaps people are not as interested, so they don't think it will sell papers, maybe they figured this out from past historical sales figures when they covered such stories.

anncoates

snubbleste wrote: »

The families and friends of those killed and those critically injured. In addition the loved ones, work colleagues and support network of those injured and any passer-by who happened to see the incident. All those who may have had travel plans disrupted in rural Karnataka as a result of the incident. Also we must think of the emergency services at this time and the vital service that they provide and the daily trauma they witness..

Note how vicarious, internet disaster hounds are never included in these moralistic roll-calls.

The Backwards Man

I agree with Super Rush. How many multiple fatality tragedies have there been across the globe in the last week?

apollo8

anncoates wrote: »

Note how vicarious, internet disaster hounds are never included in these moralistic roll-calls.

What does this even mean?

anncoates

apollo8 wrote: »

What does this even mean?

It would only hurt your brain to attempt to explain it.

Jonny7

I doubt many would watch a 3 hour news bulletin attempting to catalogue all the world's multiple-casualty incidents from just one day

Super-Rush

Super-Rush wrote: »

Seriously who cares?

Super-Rush wrote: »

Does AH need to be the dumping ground for every thing that happens.

Come on SR. You know better than that. If you don't think the thread is inappropriate, report it.

xXxkorixXx wrote: »

my hubby closed his account because of bullying from you on here when you were an after hours mod. you banned him for comments far less offensive than what you just posted.
lets see if you get banned now

Unfounded accusations of bullying will result in mod action. It's something that is taken extremely seriously by the mods and admins so if it was happening, it should have been reported.

Thread closed at OP's request and because it's going nowhere.