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Can presenters be fired from RTE Radio ?

  • 27-07-2013 4:35pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8


    I can't think of any presenter who was ever really fired. Myles Dungan had his afternoon arts show axed a few years ago but he was given a plum job of a part time weekend show and being pat Kenny's holiday fill in(Which he is really bad at). With Dan Healy saying nobody will be fired from 2fm, is it a case that nobody can be fired ?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,167 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    I think all radio presenters are on contracts. They can be fired the same way as anybody can be fired but more than likely if listenership is low, their contracts wouldnt be renewed or amended to fill a less favourable slot.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,142 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    A small number are staff who could be made redundant (with payoff and difficulties in hiring new ones) or actually fired (potential for unfair dismissal cases and huge costs there too). Most of the rest are contractors who would be entitled to have their contract bought out so they're going to pay them the same amount either way. Makes more sense to move them sideways until the contract expires and just not renew it. And hope against hope that they'll get another job and leave by mutual consent before then...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    Ha Ha, RTE, in english means jobs for life, look at those auld tossers, gb, mm, even when you retire and run short of a few bob they take you back in, and create a show for you, if you are on cocaine they will look after your expenses. That is what the licence is for. What about two bottles a day and sixty fags.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭Almaviva


    They now give failed presenters a station to themselves - the general dumping ground known as Lyric FM (not to be confused with the Lyric FM, now defunct, that was RTE's classical music station).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    Almaviva wrote: »
    They now give failed presenters a station to themselves - the general dumping ground known as Lyric FM (not to be confused with the Lyric FM, now defunct, that was RTE's classical music station).

    None of them would know classical music if it bit them in the ar$e, maybe some would enjoy that experience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Btr


    a lot of on-air staff at RTE are self employed contractors and it would be expensive for RTE to break contracts - breach of contract and all that . that said and I've made this point before, all Dan Healy appears to have said is that he wouldn't sack staff. You don't traditionally sack contract staff, you wait till their contacts expire and don't renew ............

    As for all the slagging that goes on here about RTE staff, we're all entitled to our views but it is a little tiresome and its not as if the private stations are overrun with talent either.............

    Problem with broadcast media is that if often attracts those who are very fond of the sound of their own voices and seldom know when to shut up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    Btr wrote: »
    a lot of on-air staff at RTE are self employed contractors and it would be expensive for RTE to break contracts - breach of contract and all that . that said and I've made this point before, all Dan Healy appears to have said is that he wouldn't sack staff. You don't traditionally sack contract staff, you wait till their contacts expire and don't renew ............

    As for all the slagging that goes on here about RTE staff, we're all entitled to our views but it is a little tiresome and its not as if the private stations are overrun with talent either.............

    Problem with broadcast media is that if often attracts those who are very fond of the sound of their own voices and seldom know when to shut up

    RTE seems to be full too capacity, with them, now the tank is leaking and the disease is spreading.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭heybaby


    Btr wrote: »
    As for all the slagging that goes on here about RTE staff, we're all entitled to our views but it is a little tiresome and its not as if the private stations are overrun with talent either.............

    Problem with broadcast media is that if often attracts those who are very fond of the sound of their own voices and seldom know when to shut up

    Well personally I'm a little tired of RTE having their cake and eating it. The advertising sector in this country has been decimated and its commercial independent radio stations that are feeling the brunt the length and breadth of the country through no fault of their own, unlike 2FM. Staff in those stations are being asked to carry an increased workload because other people have been let go. Jocks in some regional stations are working 6 days a week and voice tracking a couple of other shows a week. Pat Kenny several years ago was earning nearly a million euros a year, that equates to the entire turnover of a couple of local radio stations combined.!!! Yes his ridiculous salary had come down substantially but he was still on enormous money as are many others within Montrose.

    My issue with RTE is that it is a closed shop. Regardless of your experience, unless you know someone or are related to someone you can forget about getting in the door. I know countless people over the years who would have applied to RTE for a variety of jobs they heard about on the grapevine, (jobs that you wont hear advertised, much like the one Dan Healey is in now), and they never got anywhere with their application. When was the last time an on air position in RTE was advertised as it legally should be ?

    When you are the state broadcaster every single thing you do with public money will be scrutinised in forensic detail, people want to know why the Marian's of this world are on several hundred thousand euro a year when the same salary at local radio level would pay 100 quid a shift.

    The dichotomy between Montrose and the rest of radio is this country could not be more stark people outside RTE resent it while people within RTE have a siege mentality like much of the rest of the 'job for life' public servants in this country. RTE to its employees is a cash cow, they will guard it with their life hence the revulsion they feel towards letting outsiders in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    heybaby wrote: »
    Well personally I'm a little tired of RTE having their cake and eating it. The advertising sector in this country has been decimated and its commercial independent radio stations that are feeling the brunt the length and breadth of the country through no fault of their own, unlike 2FM. Staff in those stations are being asked to carry an increased workload because other people have been let go. Jocks in some regional stations are working 6 days a week and voice tracking a couple of other shows a week. Pat Kenny several years ago was earning nearly a million euros a year, that equates to the entire turnover of a couple of local radio stations combined.!!! Yes his ridiculous salary had come down substantially but he was still on enormous money as are many others within Montrose.

    My issue with RTE is that it is a closed shop. Regardless of your experience, unless you know someone or are related to someone you can forget about getting in the door. I know countless people over the years who would have applied to RTE for a variety of jobs they heard about on the grapevine, (jobs that you wont hear advertised, much like the one Dan Healey is in now), and they never got anywhere with their application. When was the last time an on air position in RTE was advertised as it legally should be ?

    When you are the state broadcaster every single thing you do with public money will be scrutinised in forensic detail, people want to know why the Marian's of this world are on several hundred thousand euro a year when the same salary at local radio level would pay 100 quid a shift.

    The dichotomy between Montrose and the rest of radio is this country could not be more stark people outside RTE resent it while people within RTE have a siege mentality like much of the rest of the 'job for life' public servants in this country. RTE to its employees is a cash cow, they will guard it with their life hence the revulsion they feel towards letting outsiders in.

    The last interview I heard about, getting a job in Pravda, was tonight, it concerned a supposedly killing of a lamb, by a protege of the retired, lost money, brought back to replenish his coffers, retired again lost more, brought back again for another dig out from the license fee. How much was paid to that coke head. AS far as I know that was not advertised.

    Ps. not to get libelous, I am talking about the stuff in the bottle.


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