Harty cup 2013/14

malascoile

When is the draw for next years Harty?

The Lost Sheep

Draw for harty cup 2014
Group 1 - Thurles CBS, Castletroy College, Doon CBS, Gaelcholaiste Mhuire, Cork.
Group 2 - Blackwater, Dungarvan, Midleton, Nenagh, Rochestown.
Group 3 - Ardscoil Ris, Hamilton HS, St Flannans, De La Salle, St Colmans
Group 4 - Templemore, Charleville, Clonmel, Youghal.

Fixtures start September 25th

thinkstoomuch1

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Draw for harty cup 2014
Group 1 - Thurles CBS, Castletroy College, Doon CBS, Gaelcholaiste Mhuire, Cork.
Group 2 - Blackwater, Dungarvan, Midleton, Nenagh, Rochestown.
Group 3 - Ardscoil Ris, Hamilton HS, St Flannans, De La Salle, St Colmans
Group 4 - Templemore, Charleville, Clonmel, Youghal.

Fixtures start September 25th

It should be a great competiton.
The old kings,likes of St Flannans and Colmans ,are not the force of old and I'd say they could struggle .

Cork have not had a winner in ten years,Midelton repersent the best option for a Cork team,better than Colmans,but are in a very very hard group.

Id say Castletroy,Ard scoil and Doon will be very strong,from a Limerick view point.


Blackwater seem to be making steady progress,having won All Irelands at B and C grades ,and ran Dungarvan close last year.

They had five on the Waterford All Ireland Minor winning panel.
And with Denis Ring,formerly of St Colmans their, and Pa Cronin their, they have a good back up team.

Its just a matter time before they make the breakthrough,based on their progress.
Impossible to predict ,so early,but I would have a fancy for them to rattle it.

The Lost Sheep

Some results from todays opening games
Clonmel 3-16 Pobalscoil Youghal 3-6
Midleton CBS 4-20 Nenagh CBS 2-9
Dungarvan CBS 1-16, Blackwater CS -14

Midleton must be very strong this year although Nenagh are nowhere near as strong as they have been the past few years

Quixoticelixer

Were amalgamations banned? No sign of Kerry colleges or West Limerick this year. And only one Clare school surprises me, although I'd imagine ArdScoilRis will have a handful of Clonlara, Cratloe and Sixmilebridge players.

premierstone

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Some results from todays opening games
Clonmel 3-16 Pobalscoil Youghal 3-6
Midleton CBS 4-20 Nenagh CBS 2-9
Dungarvan CBS 1-16, Blackwater CS -14

Midleton must be very strong this year although Nenagh are nowhere near as strong as they have been the past few years

Yeah Nenagh not as strong as they were and also I think about 5 of the team are involved in the Tipp Senior County Semi Final on Sunday so may have either been missing or if playing mindind themselves if only subconsiously, they won't be amerging from this group at any rate.

The Lost Sheep

Quixoticelixer wrote: »

Were amalgamations banned? No sign of Kerry colleges or West Limerick this year. And only one Clare school surprises me, although I'd imagine ArdScoilRis will have a handful of Clonlara, Cratloe and Sixmilebridge players.

They have been banned after Dungarvan colleges winning Harty last year with one of the schools in Dungarvan also winning the B championship

premierstone

Quixoticelixer wrote: »

Were amalgamations banned? No sign of Kerry colleges or West Limerick this year. And only one Clare school surprises me, although I'd imagine ArdScoilRis will have a handful of Clonlara, Cratloe and Sixmilebridge players.

Competition has been completely revamped and one of the new stipulations is no more amalgamations, yes quite a number of Clare lads would go to school in ArdscoilRis that and the fact that one half of Clare is almost exclusivly football is why they have just the one rep.

thinkstoomuch1

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Some results from todays opening games
Clonmel 3-16 Pobalscoil Youghal 3-6
Midleton CBS 4-20 Nenagh CBS 2-9
Dungarvan CBS 1-16, Blackwater CS -14

Midleton must be very strong this year although Nenagh are nowhere near as strong as they have been the past few years

Ard scoil 4-20 to hamilton 3-14.
I done a report that game in cork thread.

Quixoticelixer

Pity about the amalgamations in some ways, I would have thought the stronger Harty schools poaching players from other schools was a bigger issue. A strong Limerick school (you can probably guess which one) has poached players in the last few years from one of the three schools that made up West Limerick colleges. I can see why they are banned though.

premierstone

Quixoticelixer wrote: »

Pity about the amalgamations in some ways, I would have thought the stronger Harty schools poaching players from other schools was a bigger issue. A strong Limerick school (you can probably guess which one) has poached players in the last few years from one of the three schools that made up West Limerick colleges. I can see why they are banned though.

They weren't so much banned as no longer catered for, this coincided with all secondary schools been allowed into the Harty Cup and its B and C equivilants.

thinkstoomuch1

Quixoticelixer wrote: »

Pity about the amalgamations in some ways, I would have thought the stronger Harty schools poaching players from other schools was a bigger issue. A strong Limerick school (you can probably guess which one) has poached players in the last few years from one of the three schools that made up West Limerick colleges. I can see why they are banned though.

Ard scoil would have had sedna morey brother today,who only transferred to them this year.They get a lot good talent from clare also.

Quixoticelixer

ASR 0-16, StColmans 2-10

thinkstoomuch1

Quixoticelixer wrote: »

ASR 0-16, StColmans 2-15

Hamilton 2-15 to flannans 2 -11.

Done a bit report cork thread.

Quixoticelixer

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Hamilton 2-15 to flannans 2 -11.

Done a bit report cork thread.

Just noticed that there, pretty shocking to read about the Blackwater Rochestown game, I really hope the young lad will be okay.

thinkstoomuch1

Quixoticelixer wrote: »

Just noticed that there, pretty shocking to read about the Blackwater Roochestown game, I really hope the young lad will be okay.

i hope so too lad.

Black Suir

Quixoticelixer wrote: »

Just noticed that there, pretty shocking to read about the Blackwater Rochestown game, I really hope the young lad will be okay.

Any link to what you read. Did see two or three different stories on twitter.

willietherock

Black Suir wrote: »

Any link to what you read. Did see two or three different stories on twitter.

seemed to be v innocuous incident. Player involved was conscious through out. Had to wait an eternity for an ambulance. :mad:

Black Suir

willietherock wrote: »

seemed to be v innocuous incident. Player involved was conscious through out. Had to wait an eternity for an ambulance. :mad:

I would love to know what an eternity is. I know when you are waiting for an Ambulance or any other Emergency vehicle or personnel a minute would seem like an hour. Is there an Ambulance base in Fermoy or has our Minister for Health taken that away. I know he wanted to take it out of Youghal and there was talks of it going from Fermoy and it moving to Midleton which was seen as a central location to both towns. If there was not an Ambulance in Fermoy at the time, for one to come from somewhere like Cork, Midleton, Mallow, Dungarvan, Clonmel or Cashel (where ever they could find one that was not in use) it could take a very long time for one to arrive at the venue. If there was an Ambulance in Fermoy at the time the local Hospital is only on the other side of the town (out the Tallow road) and it should be at the pitch in a matter of minutes.

Browney7

Quixoticelixer wrote: »

ASR 0-16, StColmans 2-10

Big result for Colmans there. Would they have a strong squad?

willietherock

Black Suir wrote: »

I would love to know what an eternity is. I know when you are waiting for an Ambulance or any other Emergency vehicle or personnel a minute would seem like an hour. Is there an Ambulance base in Fermoy or has our Minister for Health taken that away. I know he wanted to take it out of Youghal and there was talks of it going from Fermoy and it moving to Midleton which was seen as a central location to both towns. If there was not an Ambulance in Fermoy at the time, for one to come from somewhere like Cork, Midleton, Mallow, Dungarvan, Clonmel or Cashel (where ever they could find one that was not in use) it could take a very long time for one to arrive at the venue. If there was an Ambulance in Fermoy at the time the local Hospital is only on the other side of the town (out the Tallow road) and it should be at the pitch in a matter of minutes.

I didn't time it but if I was to guess I'd say at the very least 30 minutes.

Fireball07

Is there any place to get all scores of games in the Harty?

The Lost Sheep

Fireball07 wrote: »

Is there any place to get all scores of games in the Harty?

Below should have all results
http://munster.gaa.ie/fixtures/post-primary-schools/

Fireball07

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Below should have all results
http://munster.gaa.ie/fixtures/post-primary-schools/

Cheers!

thinkstoomuch1

Fireball07 wrote: »

Is there any place to get all scores of games in the Harty?

Orizio wrote: »

http://www.redfm.ie/news/sport/harty-cup-round-2-results/

Another link posted n cork thread

premierstone

willietherock wrote: »

seemed to be v innocuous incident. Player involved was conscious through out. Had to wait an eternity for an ambulance. :mad:

According to todays examiner he was unconcious for up to 10 minutes.

ardclonman

Anyone have results for today's matches?

thinkstoomuch1

ardclonman wrote: »

Anyone have results for today's matches?

Doon won,qualifed q finals.
Ard scoil won,if they beat st flannas they quailify
Templemore won

Thurles won

Dungarvan won

Hamilton bandon won


The Dean ryan cup final is on the sixth november between ard scoil under niall moran and midelton .


Should be a cracker.

Nt sure the venue ,fermoy probably ,but Mallow would be ideal and central enoough both teams.

Thehorsemon

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Doon won,qualifed q finals.
Ard scoil won,if they beat st flannas they quailify
Templemore won

Thurles won

Dungarvan won

Hamilton bandon won


The Dean ryan cup final is on the sixth november between ard scoil under niall moran and midelton .


Should be a cracker.

Nt sure the venue ,fermoy probably ,but Mallow would be ideal and central enoough both teams.

Yeah Mallow is a serious setup alright. I hear ArdScoil were involved in a cracker of a semi final, beat Templemore after extra time. Should be a great game alright.

thinkstoomuch1

Thehorsemon wrote: »

Yeah Mallow is a serious setup alright. I hear ArdScoil were involved in a cracker of a semi final, beat Templemore after extra time. Should be a great game alright.

I cant wait should be a classic,i saw ardscoil training a month ago north campus ul and are a serious team.

I believe they are starting a strength and conditioning programme soon enough.


I hope its Mallow ,would be close to an hour for both teams both also these lads deserve a good ptich to play in,and would draw a big crowd.

I would say Mark landers will be their,to obeserve.

The Lost Sheep

Ard Scoil into quarters after yesterday and Midleton virt guaranteed to be in k/o stages
Anyone at games yesterday or able to give an exact rundown of where teams are at at this stage?

willietherock

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Ard Scoil into quarters after yesterday and Midleton virt guaranteed to be in k/o stages
Anyone at games yesterday or able to give an exact rundown of where teams are at at this stage?

If Rochestown beat Midleton and Blackwater they go through

thinkstoomuch1

Comhairle Iar Bhunscoileanna Na Mumhan Under 18 ½ Hurling Fixtures
Dr. Harty Cup Under 18½ A Hurling Championship
Midleton CBS 2-17 Blackwater CS 0-15 –

Rochestown 4-7 Nenagh CBS 1-10

Ardscoil Ris 2-24 St Flannans 1-10

DLS Waterford 2-10 St Colmans 1-11

13/11/2013 @ 1:30pm
Nenagh CBS V Blackwater CS New Inn Noel Cosgrave

20/11/2013 @ 1:30pm
Charleville V Youghal Fermoy

Thurles CBS 0-21 Gaelcholaiste Mhuire AG 0-11

Doon 3-11 Castletroy 1-14 –

Dungarvan CBS 1-15 Rochestown 1-10

Ardscoil Ris 0-17 DLS Waterford 1-5

Hamilton High School Bandon 1-20 St. Colmans 0-15

Our Lady’s Templemore 1-15 High School Clonmel 0-9 –

Col Cholmain 2-10 Ardscoil Ris 0-16

Hamilton HS Bandon 2-16 St Flannans College 2-11 -

Dungarvan 1-11 Midleton CBS 0-12
Charleville 1-16 HS Clonmel 0-14

Our Lady’s Templemore 4-23 Youghal 2-7

Castletroy 5-14 Gaelcholaiste Mhuire 2-10

Thurles CBS 1-19 Doon 2-12

Rochestown V Blackwater (to be replayed due to a player injury)

Thurles CBS 3-13 Castletroy 1-9

Doon 3-18 Gaelcholáiste Mhuire A.G 1-10

Dungarvan 1-16 P.S. Blackwater 0-14

Midleton CBS 4-20 Nenagh CBS 2-9

Ardscoil Rís  4-20 Hamilton High School Bandon 3-14

St. Flannans 2-16 DLS Waterford 3-13

Charlevillle 3-16 Our Lady’s Templemore 3-15

High School Clonmel 3-16 Pobalscoil Youghal 3-6

Tables

Group 1 (all teams played 3 games)
Thurles CBS – 6 points
S Na T Doon – 4 points
Castletroy CC – 2 points
Gaelcholaiste Mhuire AG – 0 points

Group 2

Dungarvan CBS Played 3 Points 6
Middleton CBS Played 3 Points 4
Rochestown College Played 2 Points 2
Blackwater CS Played 2 Points 0
Nenagh CBS Played 2 Points 0

Group 3
Ardscoil Ris Played 4 Points 7
Hamilton HS Bandon Played 3 Points 4
DLS Waterford Col Played 3 Points 3
St Flannans Col Played 3 Points 1
St Colmans Fermoy Played 3 Points 1

Group 4
Our Lady’s Templemore Played 3 Points 4
Chareville CBS Played 2 Points 4
HS Clonmel Played 3 Points 2
Youghal CS Played 2 Points 0


HARTY CUP DRAWS 2013/2014
Group A: Durlas, Col. Chaladh an Treoigh, Gaelcoláiste Mhuire A.G, Scoil Na Tríonóide Doon

Group B: P.S. Blackwater, Dún Garbháin, Mainistir Na Corann, Aonach, Col Baile an Róistigh

Group C: Ardscoil Rís, Dr. na Banndan, Col. Fhlannáin, DLS, Port Láirge, Coláiste Cholmáin

Group Teampall Mór, Rath Loirc, Cluain Meala, Pob. Sc na Trionóide Eochaill

25/09/2013
Dr. Harty Cup Round 1
Durlas V Col. Chaladh an Treoigh
P.S. Blackwater V Dún Garbháin
Ardscoil Rís V Dr. na Banndan
Teampall Mór V Rath Loirc
Gaelcholáiste Mhuire A.G V Scoil Na Tríonóide Doon
Mainistir Na Corann V Aonach
Col. Fhlannáin V DLS, Port Láirge
Cluain Meala V Pob. Sc na Trionóide Eochaill

09/10/2013
Dr. Harty Cup Round 2
Scoil Na Tríonóide Doon V Durlas
Col Baile an Róistigh. V P.S. Blackwater
Coláiste Cholmáin V Ardscoil Rís
Pob. Sc na Trionóide Eochaill V Teampall Mór
Col. Chaladh an Treoigh V Gaelcholáiste Mhuire A.G
Dún Garbháin V Mainistir Na Corann
Dr. na Banndan V Col. Fhlannáin
Rath Loirc. V Cluain Meala

23/10/2013
Dr. Harty Cup Round 3
Durlas V Gaelcholáiste Mhuire A.G
Aonach V P.S. Blackwater
DLS, Port Láirge V Ardscoil Rís
Teampall Mór V Cluain Meala
Col. Chaladh an Treoigh V Scoil Na Tríonóide Doon
Dún Garbháin. V Col Baile an Róistigh
Dr. na Banndan V Coláiste Cholmáin
Rath Loirc V Pob. Sc na Trionóide Eochaill

6/11/2013
Dr. Harty Cup Round 4
P.S. Blackwater V Mainistir Na Corann
Ardscoil Rís V Col. Fhlannáin
Aonach V Col Baile an Róistigh.
DLS, Port Láirge V Coláiste Cholmáin

20/11/2013
Dr. Harty Cup Round 5
Dún Garbháin VAonach
Dr. na Banndan V DLS, Port Láirge
Mainistir Na Corann V Col Baile an Róistigh
Col. Fhlannáin V Coláiste Cholmáin

thinkstoomuch1

Harty cup quater final draw tonight at 8.30 in limerick.
Games set for 15th january.

Ardscoil,doon,chareville,rocestown cbs,and Hamilton,thurles,templemore and Dungarvan in the mix.


No teams that met in the group stages can meet,but they can from the same counties,and its very likely a local derby will occur in one game.

thinkstoomuch1

Harty cup quater final draw

Hamiltion v dungarvan
Ard scoil v templemore(repeat last years semi final that went to a replay,and marys won)
Rochestown v thurles
Chareville v doon

The Lost Sheep

Who do people tip to win these games next week?

denishurley

My tips:

Dungarvan (hope I'm wrong)
Ardscoil
Rochestown
Charleville

feargale

Were there Harty games today. Results?

The Lost Sheep

Rochestown beat Thurles 1-13 to 0-11
Doon beat Charleville 2-13 to 1-13
Dungarvan Hamilton postponed waterlogged pitch
Ard Scoil Templemore in Nenagh friday

feargale

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Rochestown beat Thurles 1-13 to 0-11
Doon beat Charleville 2-13 to 1-13
Dungarvan Hamilton postponed waterlogged pitch
Ard Scoil Templemore in Nenagh friday

Thanks. Two big surprises today!
Pushing my luck, have you results of subsidiary Munster school games today?

thinkstoomuch1

feargale wrote: »

Were there Harty games today. Results?

On the cork thread ,there is a report of the two games.

Ard scoil friday play templemore.a repeat of last year.3 definite stars of the future.

Colin o riordan,tipp,ronan lynch and ciaran ciarey nephew cian.
Hamilton and dungarvan probably next week.

What game to go to.In future years,once and please god colin doesnt go and play afl,these guys could be stars and great to say you saw the 3 together grace the same field.

Rochestown v doon in one semifinal.

thinkstoomuch1

feargale wrote: »

Thanks. Two big surprises today!
Pushing my luck, have you results of subsidiary Munster school games today?

Munster gaa-post primary a great link has it all there and football.

thinkstoomuch1

Ard scoil had a huge win against templemore to avenge last years defeat to them,anyone at the game?
They play hamilton or dungarvan in the semifinal

thinkstoomuch1

Hamilon ,Bandon play Dungarvan CBS ,in what has been known has the crossroads of Munster for years,in Mallow on Tuesday.

An excellent choice of venue ,with excellent facilites,ideal for Dungarvan logistics wise,they avoid going through the town,the ptich on the Waterford side of the town.


Dungarvan are entering the Harty Cup for the 1st time in over 50 years on there owe ,as last year there was an almagation of St Augustine with them that ,they won two harty cups in a row.That marriage that was made in heaven,is broken up with ,the new rules this year such it is the 1st time in around 80 years.the defending champions are not in it.


Dungarvan have been on an upward curve ,standing on there own two feet,in that they have won a Munster u15 in 2009,and the Munster and All Ireland B championship last year,so this school,and credit due ,have created a winning culture.They lost a Dean Ryan Cup final recently enough.


Hamilton ,have just there second year in a row played Harty Cup,as up to last year had not played in it since 1995.Also known for Football and Rubgy,this town is making waves in hurling.


They have created history by being the 1st West Cork School to get to the Harty Cup Quater finals and is changing history.It is great to see,and being in the Carbery Division,I'm sure John Cocoran,in the Carbery division is delighted for them,and I hope when he see's so close to home,how a team recognoised as a minnow at Harty Cup level can breathe  such wonderful energy and freshness in to the competition,in a similar way,Carlow are making huge strides in Hurling,yet he was like John Wayne,fast of the Mark,in terms of fast to criticise Carlow as having little value in hurling,which is a tad harsh.


Hammies won the Dr .Callaghan ,Cork Colleges cup,beating an expierenced and highely rated Midelton CBS,that had a lot of last years harty cup side and a few of the ,Dean Ryan cup winning side this year.
They sliced through that competiton like a hot knife through a large lump of Kerrygold butter beating St .Colmans 5-23 to 4-9,and then Christians 2-19 to 4-8,and then in the final beating Midelton 2-17 to 2-8,depriving Midelton of 3 in a rowd ,who had senior club player and kilkenny man Peter Dowling involved with training them ,in the Final.


In the Harty Group stages ,they again beat bigger schools tradition wise,in beating De La Salle,winners in 2007 and 2008,beat St flannans 21 times winners,in truth it was more than the scoreline showed,as they dominated them in Kilmallock,on a lovely autumn day ,then beat 9 times champions St Colmans.

They lost to Ard Scoil(like the Lions in Rubgy with the pick they have)and champions in 2010 and 2011 as regular knockout contenders ,4-20 to 3-14,but showed enough heart and grit that was admirable against hot favourites and a star laden limerick team in Mallow.Such was Cahalanes peach of a goal,Ard scoil with all there stars would love have to him.In the group stages they got around 8 goals,and 9 in the Cork College,this team has goals in them ,make no mistake about it.

They have conceded around 6 in the Harty Cup,but it is important to note 4 of them came the 1st day in Mallow,and from being at that match ,2 goals were just sloppy defending.Since then,like any good defence,they have tightened up considerably at the back,and had two clean sheets,just conceding two goals against St flannans,one late in free with time up,when Mccarthy had no chance to save a bullet fron clare interounty player Moloney.

They have conceded 10 goals in the Cork colleges,but the focus has increased for the Harty Cup.In the Cork Colleges final out of 2-17 ,a total of 2-14 was from play,pheonmal scoring ,even though ,Midelton were down a man.


This side is well balanced ,and well coached with the expierenced Noel Crowley,and Aidan O Donughe with them.Michael Mcsweeney there Captain,intercounty expierence with Cork is a fine full back,and he will face he's toughest test in Waterford minor Patrick Curran,1-7 ,(4 frees )in the all ireland minor final against Galway,against a top full back in Darragh O Donoughe.What a battle.Michael is strong,abrasive,and everything you want in a full back.Jack O'Callaghan,and Andrew O'Connell,superb against Flannans,made 3 goal saving hooks or blocks ,is tenacious.

The half back line is like any good side,the fortress from which it is built.Murt Kennaly,the dominant and leader in Chris O leary,fabolous all year,supported by Niall Murray.

Jonathan Mulchay works hard and is strong and direct hurler and it remains to be seen ,who will play at midfield, in Luke meade is a fine hurler ,played for Newcestown in the county u21 championship.

David healy,involved with Cork teams ,is a lovely hurer,got tasty scores and done well against Morey and Galvin of Ard Scoil ,two intercounty lads.Jerry O Neill,a strong,forceful hurler played there in the Cork Colleges Final but is at home in the half forward line and may be better served there ,as to take the pressure and onus of Michael Cahalane at Centre forward.Cormac Curran is at midfield for Dungarvan ,and is meant to be very good.

The forwards have plenty of scoring in them.Kevin O donovan,Cork panel,a goal in the Cork college final,Eoin o Reilly,super pace,4 points against St flannans ,can score and is a real handful for any corner back.Trevor Horgan a dual Cork minor is a real presence at full forward,often does not get as much attention,as Cahalane hogs the limelight,but he is a terrfic player,outstanding for newestown at u21 this year,very strong ,and can play centre of full,and that versailty is key ,as Dungarvan will probably have Waterford minor captain,the ist man in 65 years to lift the cup ,on Cahalane,so horgan can do damage inside.Kevin daly is a terrific player,held Galways main man Brian Molloy to a point from play.He is a senior in the making.

Horgan was in super form for Club last autumn,getting three goals in a County Minor final against Fr O Neills,3 goals in a Carbery u21 final against Bandon , a goal against Barney,again superb against the Rockies when beaten.Yes those games,you do have to take with a grain of salt in that the standard is not high at times,but at the same time potential intercounty stars must make there mark and stand out from the rest ,and he done that.

At intercounty for Cork minors ,got 3 points against Clare,was injured with ligament problems for the Waterford game and a huge loss.

Michael Cahalane ,though is the real key for Hamilton.He will be marked by Kevin daly,but Daly held him to 1-1 in the Cork game,and against such a quailty player,holding him to that is very good,in that seldom you can expect to hold that quailty scorless.He got 1-11 against the Barrs in an u16 county final,got 3 goals against the Rockiers at U14 county final,this year got 18 points in a minor game against Carragline ,and got like 14 points in the Carbery u21 final out of hes teams 18 points againgst Newcestown.

He played in the Cork county Intermediate final at 17,for Bandon against Ballinsaig,and despite not scoring much, did quite well in he's first final at that level and when he went on Mike Aherne who was man of the match,he won ball.

Has played senior for Carbery this year.Leading scorer in most games for hes team he is a superb man from placed ball.
Against Ard Scoil he got a splendid overhead strike ,to grace any game at any level, could have had a second goal ,and unluck not to have a hat trick with a missed penalty.He was marked by the outstanding ,and much rated Ronan lynch ,limerick intercounty but more than helds hes own.
Against st Flannans he got 1-8.
He has either scored or at the very least had a majior inptut in most of Hammies goals.
In the 1st two harty cup games,he got around 2-20.
In the cork colleges final he got around six points from play.
In Second year he was only the 3rd student at that year to play senior hurling for the school.People wonder is too early ,he has been called up to the Senior team,and is it too much expectation and pressure like ,Conor Lehane had,but the fundamental difference with Lehane,he was on a Cork team,with not many other main forwards when he joined in 2012.
The pressure is on all star Harnedy,captain Cronin,All star Horgan,Walsh,Moylan,Coughlan etc,so he is in an ideal enviroment to thrive ,and like I advocated as far back as September he is well worth he's place on the panel,and is surroundf by level headed people in and outside of the Cork Camp:/ he will do just fine.

This Cork call up,is a majior boost to he's confidence and he will have a spring in he's step Tuesday.

Dungarvan are well coached by Pat Collins and have a few players from last year team ,and have a super leader at the back in Kevin Daly,and Patrick Curran is such a great player ,he has to be watched from the ist minute right up to the last,in that he was well held by O donughue ,in the all ireland final against Galway,but then had a superb moment of magic,in the last five minutes to get a super goal.

They have five from last year ,Cormac Curran at midfield,Patrick Curran,Darragh lyons,Kevin Daly at the back ,and Michael Cronin.
They have Aron Donnelly,and Eammon Crotty also.They are a very strong side,but as any schools team are,certainly not unbeatable on any given day.They already lost to Nenagh,only beat Midelton who Hamilton beat,by two points and beat Rochestown by 5 points.


Hamilton have fierce,grit and are resoulte,are a team adapatable to a dry day or a wet day and as showed against Ard Scoil,never give up.Dungarvan don't concede many goals,but dont score many either and I doubt have the capacity to blow a team away,and with Cahalane in the news and such talent from both sides on show,I would say they would be a nice bit of support for the Cork lads,and if it was close in the last quarter ,I fancy them to win it.

Schools level is always hard to call,but the fact they are not favourites will help them ,and I think they will  win it ,as they have improved in every game,had two very good work outs against the Cork minors and are in good shape .

It should be a great game Tuesday.
The Doon Rochestown semi final has an added intrest in Diramuid Fahey with Rochestown is orignally an Oulagh man,in Limerick,literally a stones throw from Doon,so it adds a bit of spice to it .

puddie77

so paddy power have ard scoil as clear favourites after yesterday,do people agree with that

malascoile

Does patrick curran have a broken hand? Will he be fully fit for Tuesday?

thinkstoomuch1

Ard scoil are huge favourites,to win it ,which is always a worry for Limerick fans as Limerick teams even there greatest team in sporting terms Munster trationally don't carry the burden of beating thems they are meant to .


This is schools as well,young lads learning the game ,so they are not as battle hardended as seasoned,expierenced teams.Take minor,or even u21,a more expierenced age group ,and the favourites are often beaten .Tippereary beat a fancied Limerick in u21,Carlow beat Dublin who when they were given no chance at u21 hurling in Dublin,Dublin u21 raging favourites to win it outright beaten in the 1st round ,and Antrim beat Wexford with little training and a patched up team.


Ard scoil were huge favourites last year,but templemore beat them ,and Ard Scoil were huge favourites in the Dean Ryan Cup ,with midelton star player Garan Manley not able to start ,had a 8 point lead or thereabouts ,but Midelton came back and won by a point.No schools team is unbeaten.Facthnas of skibberen shocked the kerry lads in the Corn u Mhuire,Rochestown beat Thurles the favourites(i said rochestown would win)Charville with 14 men ran Doon to the wire.
Nenagh beat a much fancied Dungarvan in the 1st round,Charville done the same to Templemore by beating them.


There is enough talent in any of the remining 5 left to win this.Yes Ard scoil are a fine team with
barry fitzpatrick (Sixmilebridge), josh o halloran (Na Piarsaigh). gordon brown (Na Piarsaigh), michael casey (Na Piarsaigh), jack english (Adare) all fine hurlers at the back and cian O brien (Mungret), Ronan Lynch (Na Piarsaigh),cian lynch (Na Piarsaigh),
Ian galvin (Clonlara); colin crehan (O’Callaghan’s Mills), alex morey (Sixmilebridge), michael O’Loughlin (Clonlara) up front very good players.


The fact ronan lynch can play centre back or midfield and galvin and morey are equally at home at midfied they are versatile.They have the best of limerick and clare hurlers ,and Ian Galvin and Barry Fitzpatrick will be contention with Morey (brother of sedna)for the clare u21 team.


Dungarvan ,have a serious team,kevin daly captain of the waterford minor team,patrick curran, Darragh Lyons,cormac curran ,Michael cronin and daly from last year will be a serious test.
They play hamilton just as good ,with the just called up to senior Michael cahalane,trevor horgan,michael mcsweeney,chris o leary luke meade among others ,a very good team.


Rochestown have gavin connolly john and niall cashman,conor and shane kingston,aron ward,daniel meaney,the superb and a serious prospect mark dolan etc ,and a lot of these have played underage or will with cork and some have played senior and u21 with blackrock or douglas.Mark o connor is a huge loss ,as he has hip surgey but that is a serious city cork team.


Doon have shane o connell,stephen ryan,brian maccarthy ,a fortress at half back,michael dee man of the match the last day with patrick cummins at midfield with serious firepower up front in the highley rated dean coleman,colin ryan superb from placed balls,joe loneragn ,and david  buckley up front have a serious team.


It I think is far too early to say any team is overwhelming favourites to win it outright ,and each game should  be judged individually and on there own merits and they are even hard to predict .
Semifinals are

Hamilton or dungarvan v ardscoil
Rochestown v doon

puddie77

Great post thinkstoomuch, has cian lynch moved from the well too na piarsaigh thats twice i seen na pirsaigh mentioned beside his name

Fireball07

I'm almost sure he's still with the Well, at least I haven't heard otherwise and that'd be pretty controversial considering how good he is. I would be shocked if he left them tbh.

puddie77

Fireball07 wrote: »

I'm almost sure he's still with the Well, at least I haven't heard otherwise and that'd be pretty controversial considering how good he is. I would be shocked if he left them tbh.

ya id be shocked myself,id say it was miss quoted in paper the other day and others just assumed hes na pir

thinkstoomuch1

What a unique ,occasion in the splendid,North Cork venue of Mallow,the first time since 1928 aprox,the reigning harty cup champions ,couldnt defend there throne ,as dungarvan had to go it alone.and no almagation with st augstines,and on todays evidence with 5 of last year team,they can more than stand on there own two feet,who were up against the West cork hammilton lads in there 1st ever harty cup quater final and there second year after a gap of 16 years.

The game ended Hamilton high soared to new heights and won an epic,13 to 11.A great game,played in a dry day,but damp conitions but with a swirling wind.Fergal horgan of tipp was the ref,and for the 2nd week at harty cup level,i saw poor refeering and also by linesmen,some woeful decisonts at crucial times that could have cost hamilton.They lead 8 to 4 at h time and won the 1st half ,but lost the second half 7 to 5.

Robbie o connell was super,under high ball,and marashelled the defence superbly,and had short and long puckouts and varied it superbly.
Andrew o connell and jack o connor were immense,tenacious,like wolves,super on the breaks.

Michael macsweeney ,at full back,cometh the man,cometh the lad was on the majestic,curran,waterford minor,fair play he played superb,got 7 points but he was majestic with frees.Sweeney though held him superbly,won clean ball,powerful surges,and hurled left and right.Never allowed curran any time.
Kenneally had a super game ,and o leary and murray who was truly heroic ,were immense at the back.O leary when hammies were hanging on by a point with 5 min to go,he made a vital arms length hook on I think morrisey.

Meade was unreal,easily covered 5 miles,with running up and down,a lovely point but he chased cormac curran,like a dog after a rabbit,never let up and with jonathan mulchay held o grady.


I had said in my preview ,that jerry O neill courcey would be half forWard,i can see why,a big man,strength from hes farming background ,showed and will be with luke meade  very serious players and shake the starting 15 minor for cork.Curran was more around midfield ,and won a lot of breaking ball.
Kevin o donovan ahanan gaels ,was everywhere,as a corner forward,was at times back at cnrner back,and he got a great goal in the cork colleges final,that showed with ball he can score.Today was a defensive display and he was super .
Trevor horgan ,hampered by a hamstring injury ,had a huge battle with Kevin daly,jesus he is some full back and is senior in every way.
Horgan was good ,in that he only got a point but at vital times won hard ball and made two scores.
Has another huge challenge in clare u21 barry fitzpatrick but well up to it.Eoghan o reilly did super when he came on,he chased every ball and in the end played in a two man full forward line but he has some pace,on a dry day ,hard ground he will be lethal.


The best man til last,Cahalane superb,some sideline ball,forty yards out with a swirling breeze,as good as cathal casey,joe canning ben o connor.He stood over it,two feet evenly balanced apart,rose the ball fast but smoothly,it genty lifed,perfect distance from the caman in which he stood to get as much power in it,once it became airborne ,it was like watching the concorde in its day,majestic at cruising speed,destined to complete its journey,it did ,bang centre between the posts.He was at centreforward but moved to midfield also won at least 6 clean balls in the air,at one stage on hes knees he picked a ball with two men on him,like hes hurley was a magnet.He is rum talent,athletic,strong,fast,great delivery,super touch,and can he score,as I said the senior confidence gave him that bit of swagger and confidence on top of what he had.


The coaches crowley and donughe deserve great credit as they were superbly trained,played fast,short hurling when they had to,always find a man in space,yet with the wind went long and direct and have a plan a and b.


Ardscoil are a huge test in mallow,repeat of the ist game 3 months ago ,in feb 1st ,but they have improved immensly since then,are just a shadow of that team,and are well capable of beating that great team,thats for another day,i will preview that game in due course.
Today is hamiltons day.I said and knew they would win today,as I saw a belief,courage,a drive and coeshive spirit in them ,and I think there is more in them.


Today they done west cork and cork gaa proud,and huge credit and grattiude for that to them.
It was some game,i am not a a hamilton man,but I had a lump in my throat at the end,it was such a great game.Credit dungarvan,a great team,daly and curran stars of the future and they done waterford proud.
A great and legend of cork gaa as a player teddy maccarthy was at it ,but today we had stars on both teams that could in time be legends for cork and waterford.
Good news is michael cahalane opted out of the u21football team this year as with the leaving cert and u21 and senior hurling he has more than enough.As talented footballer he is such is the talent up front on the cork u21 team,we can survive without him.


Today belongs to the west cork men,and like clyda have done north cork proud,youghal east cork proud with midelton,rochestown the city proud,it show every corner of cork gaa has and can bring greatness and pride to our wonderful county of cork.


The full list of subs on both teams is in my previous posts with the attachment of today.