Organising bar events for money

StrugglingSoul

Hi,

Does anybody know how I could organise and events in a bar to bring extra business by such a way that I could get a cut of the bar profit? Is there a term for this sort of thing or anything I could google it under to find out more? I've heard of a few who do this sort of thing the get reductions on the drinks.. but that's not what I'm into obviously.

And what's the best way of going about organising something like this, i.e, how should I approach the manager? I'd imagine I'd have try it a few times first to see how how it turns out? I don't want any comments implying that I'm greedy for thinking like this!

Any thoughts or experience????????????

Fr_Dougal

The words you're looking for are 'Strip Club'.

Frosty McSnowballs

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

The words you're looking for are 'Strip Club'.

Yeah but let's be different here.

A midget strip club, with one of every nationality and race....that's the stuff that gets the punters in....and strip bingo

blatantrereg

Event management / promotion.
How are you going to guarantee the bar you'll pull a crowd in?
You'd probably want to offer very generous terms at first for them to be interested. Then if you demonstrate it's worth their while, look for a bigger cut.
People who are successful doing this sort of thing have a lot of connections.

StrugglingSoul

blatantrereg wrote: »

Event management / promotion.
How are you going to guarantee the bar you'll pull a crowd in?
You'd probably want to offer very generous terms at first for them to be interested. Then if you demonstrate it's worth their while, look for a bigger cut.
People who are successful doing this sort of thing have a lot of connections.

I won't guarantee a crowd the first night, so I won't ask for anything. But the thing I'm confused about is how would they know which customers are mine and which ones aren't??

Fr_Dougal

StrugglingSoul wrote: »

I won't guarantee a crowd the first night, so I won't ask for anything. But the thing I'm confused about is how would they know which customers are mine and which ones aren't??

You're really going to have to put a good bit more thought into this...

StrugglingSoul

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

You're really going to have to put a good bit more thought into this...

I already have. It's not getting the crowd that I'm worried about! It's where to go.. and how to approach the manager! After that it's quite essentially quite simple. Perhaps a quite night of the week... or a business that's already quite and needs business!

theSHU

Yeah organise a poker tournament. Most pubs do it.

The Backwards Man

There's only two types of events pubs will let you run.

1) Ones that won't make money. If they did they would run them themselves.

2) Ones that cost too much money for the pub to take a risk on. If you already have enough money to cover this type of event you don't need to run them either.

minidazzler

StrugglingSoul wrote: »

I already have. It's not getting the crowd that I'm worried about! It's where to go.. and how to approach the manager! After that it's quite essentially quite simple. Perhaps a quite night of the week... or a business that's already quite and needs business!

You have to target a bars quiet nights where they're likely to be making nothing and you HAVE to guarantee a crowd. You're not a promoter unless you know how to promote.

Just ask to speak to the manager between 5 and 7 and he'll likely not be too busy, or make an appointment to meet him. Suggest to them that you can pull a crowd of a certain demographic in on a given night and you'd like to use their bar to do it. You need to know who you're targetting though, you can't just say you'll get people.

lkionm

Right walk up to the manager.


Step one; hello I am a struggling soul.
Step two; Helicopter.
Step three; 15 cans of bavaria.
Step four;Profit???

Largeslice

I suggest you look elsewhere if you are trying to succeed in making money. I can suggest though you base your event around a particular nicheinterest, mainly music for example. Most nights and interests in Dublin are being catered for already, events catering to the likes of psychedelic trance or salsa, some don't make money at all due to the niche nature, while the more popular ones like chart RnB etc, make a fortune... This is why it might be a good idea to look elsewhere for a moneymaker if you're clueless to this to begin with.

Speak to a manager and ask for cheap drinks or promos at the bar and they'll either charge you a small percentage of the door price which you set, or not charge you and give you the venue for free and on rely on full price bar drinks themselves. Again most bars in the city will already have their Thursday and Weekend nights reserved and booked out for successful promotors...

Sell reduced price tickets before, have friends distribute tickets and give them a free ticket for doing so. Create a facebook event page, offer reduced price admission for people who share the event post on the event pages wall and invite others. Most traditional methods of promotion, like posters and flyers etc. are useless in this day and age.

If youre worrying about how to distinguish your clientele from the venues, a simple ink stamp on the wrist will sort that out.

lkionm

Largeslice wrote: »

I suggest you look elsewhere if you are trying to succeed in making money. I can suggest though you base your event around a particular nicheinterest, mainly music for example. Most nights and interests in Dublin are being catered for already, events catering to the likes of psychedelic trance or salsa, some don't make money at all due to the niche nature, while the more popular ones like chart RnB etc, make a fortune... This is why it might be a good idea to look elsewhere for a moneymaker if you're clueless to this to begin with.

Speak to a manager and ask for cheap drinks or promos at the bar and they'll either charge you a small percentage of the door price which you set, or not charge you and give you the venue for free and on rely on full price bar drinks themselves. Again most bars in the city will already have their Thursday and Weekend nights reserved and booked out for successful promotors...

Sell reduced price tickets before, have friends distribute tickets and give them a free ticket for doing so. Create a facebook event page, offer reduced price admission for people who share the event post on the event pages wall and invite others. Most traditional methods of promotion, like posters and flyers etc. are useless in this day and age.

If youre worrying about how to distinguish your clientele from the venues, a simple ink stamp on the wrist will sort that out.

Jaysus. the would be the absolute minimum. Pretty much an unspoken rule.

Im glad im not your friend.

Largeslice

lkionm wrote: »

Jaysus. the would be the absolute minimum. Pretty much an unspoken rule.

Im glad im not your friend.

Obviously yea, just trying to spell out the basics for the chap. Hate to be facking c*nt but judging by the fact that hell be lucky to break even the first few times, throwing them afew quid is only gonna be out of his own pocket. When the cash starts flowing, nothing better than sorting yourself and your mates out to a fried cod and a greasy bag of sniff at the end of the night... Delish

Celly Smunt

"Hi I'm struggling soul,I want to bring people in here to make money off something you could do yourself."

StrugglingSoul

Largeslice wrote: »

Most nights and interests in Dublin are being catered for already, events catering to the likes of psychedelic trance or salsa, some don't make money at all due to the niche nature, while the more popular ones like chart RnB etc, make a fortune...

I'm actually in San Francisco at the moment

Sofiztikated

You HAVE to be able to guarantee a growd. If you can't, then why are they going to bother wasting their time with you?

I don't know what it's like in San Fran, but here, if you tried charging to go into a pub, you'd be run. Clubs/venues are different.

Be prepared to shell out the cash, especially for the first few events. Transport costs, promotion, equipment hire, etc.

Edit: As for how to approach the situation, it depends on the venue and the event. I started something recently, simply by having a beer, and chatting to the owner.

y0ssar1an22

What you want to do is organize student nights out. Guarantee club/pub a full attendance. In return you can negotiate % of bar receipts or % of gate receipts. Also discuss drink promotions...nothing better to get students in than a few free drinks or cheap drinks. Then you will have to promote on campus to get students to attend, so recruit ~10 students to hang up posters, etc. Maybe talk to Ents Officer.
If your in San Fran drive up to Berkeley.

matchthis

Pretend to be a tour guide and gather up a bunch of tourists, then bring em all in with you