MO FARAH 3-28 1500M!!

mikehammer67

say what?

new british record

cant believe my eyes here

unreal.......

pconn062

Holy sh*t, where did that one come from??

mikehammer67

unbelievable

we got rupp 3-50 indoor mile

farah eclipses coe cram ovett


say what?

gordongekko

link?

mikehammer67

its on tv

mikehammer67

1) 3:26.00 Hicham El Guerrouj
2) 3:26.34 Bernard Lagat
3) 3:27.37 Noureddine Morceli
4) 3:27.72 Asbel Kiprop
5) 3:28.12 Noah Ngeny
6) 3:28.81 Mo Farah

alltime list...wooow

gordongekko

was he on a bike? That's a savage time.

pconn062

New European record in fact. :eek:

Frankie Lee

mikehammer67 wrote: »

unbelievable

we got rupp 3-50 indoor mile

farah eclipses coe cram ovett


say what?

There is nothing that can be said, he is just an exceptional athlete.

mikehammer67

Frankie Lee wrote: »

There is nothing that can be said, he is just an exceptional athlete.

he is now!

rom

uploaded it here
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x123d2q_mo-farah-in-the-1500m-european_sport#.Uem7tmT72u0

mistermano

Former world-record holder Cram, whose time of 3:29.67 secs had stood as a British record since 16 July 1985, said he was shocked after witnessing Farah's "unbelievable" run.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/23385989

28064212

mistermano wrote: »

Former world-record holder Cram, whose time of 3:29.67 secs had stood as a British record since 16 July 1985, said he was shocked after witnessing Farah's "unbelievable" run.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/23385989

He also said "I am shocked in a great way", you might want to include that bit.

Just as well you provided that link though, I assumed he had won the race!

drquirky

To quote Lance Armstrong- "Not normal"

MrCreosote

Might have been better to pick a different week to run a time like this...

woodchopper

drquirky wrote: »

To quote Lance Armstrong- "Not normal"

Cram, Coe and Ovett all ran pretty quick and none of them and let me repeat none of them would not get lapped by Farah in a 10k. Farah has a huge aerobic engine and matched with great speed means sub 3.30 is plausible. Remember Mo ran 3.33 four years ago with no real speed work just mileage and tempos.

PS: In an earlier thread you harped on about the greatness of Tergat and Geb and how Mo wouldnt lace their shoes. Once again Woodchopper with vastly superior athletic knowledge informed you of your error and last night showed you why. Farah will run faster that both over 5k and thats the botton line.

mistermano

woodchopper wrote: »

Cram, Coe and Ovett all ran pretty quick and none of them and let me repeat none of them would not get lapped by Farah in a 10k.

PS: In an earlier thread you harped on about the greatness of Tergat and Geb and how Mo wouldnt lace their shoes

and you're harping on about 10k like....

micar

here's another link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgm9HtsTN-0

woodchopper

mistermano wrote: »

and you're harping on about 10k like....

Any chance you could drop the cool dude lingo and speak in a tone an auld man like me could understand like!

mistermano

woodchopper wrote: »

Any chance you could drop the cool dude lingo and speak in a tone an auld man like me could understand like!

you too buddy

coe cram ovett were 800/1500 specialists not distance guys in case you didn't hear the news...

woodchopper

mistermano wrote: »

you too buddy

coe cram ovett were 800/1500 specialists not distance guys in case you didn't hear the news...

Their seems to be a mentality among young Irish club runners who run 800-1500 that just because you run the 1500 means you get the easy option when it comes to training . Its the oh I run the 1500 so my long run is only 10 miles and I run 50 miles a week cause thats what Coe and Lagat did.

Firstly speed comes from strenght so a fit 5k athlete with good leg turnover will run very fast over 1500. Thats how Silas Kiplagat and Kiprop train and I should know a thing or two about Silas's training programme.

Therefore high mileage week in week out is a requirement.

Lagat does his easy runs at 5.30 mile pace so if you want to only run 40-50 miles a week, sub 6 pace is the only option. It puzzles me how young middle distance athletes think that jogging 7 minutes mile pace for 4-5 miles a day with a few 200s in the middle of the week will help you run a fast 1500.

Your mentality that the 1500 is a specialized distance that requires low mileage and flat out speedwork is incorrect as aerobic power is very important hense the reason why Farah can run quicker that Coe, Cram etc.

TRR

woodchopper wrote: »

Cram, Coe and Ovett all ran pretty quick and none of them and let me repeat none of them would not get lapped by Farah in a 10k. Farah has a huge aerobic engine and matched with great speed means sub 3.30 is plausible. Remember Mo ran 3.33 four years ago with no real speed work just mileage and tempos.

PS: In an earlier thread you harped on about the greatness of Tergat and Geb and how Mo wouldnt lace their shoes. Once again Woodchopper with vastly superior athletic knowledge informed you of your error and last night showed you why. Farah will run faster that both over 5k and thats the botton line.[/QUOTE]

TRR loves the way woodie talks about himself in the third person.

mistermano

woodchopper wrote: »

It puzzles me how young middle distance athletes think that jogging 7 minutes mile pace for 4-5 miles a day with a few 200s in the middle of the week will help you run a fast 1500.

where did you read that?

letsrun?

YFlyer

Interesting interview with Walker, Elliott, Cram and Delaney

http://www.coolrunning.com.au/general/1999e016.shtml


CRAM: I think John was right. You have to look at each era on its merits and understand how these guys were training, the tracks and the set up of races with pacemakers etc.. I think El Guerrouj is a fantastic athlete - some of the sessions he does are phenomenal. But his achievements have been a product of everything these guys (here) and those in my era have done in moving everything forward. The reason I was so good was because he [John Walker] was so good and I had to be good just to get on the British team, so you're as good as what you have to be if you want to be the best. The challenge is to constantly improve yourself even if you're trying to be the best. Now, El Geurrouj has wanted to add his name to the list of bests and in order to do that, he's had to train at a level that is higher than what we did. The thing that makes me think that he's perhaps no better than any of these guys here or any other names that we've mentioned, is that behind El Guerrouj is a bunch of guys running 3:29 and 3:30 who I KNOW are not as good as the guys in this room. And the only reason they're doing that is because they're being dragged along with the pace of the races. Seb Coe, Steve Ovett, Said Aouita were better athletes than those guys. While the current crop are faster, there's a different set of circumstances surrounding them. And I firmly believe all these guys (here) would have run faster now than they have in the past if they were training and racing in the modern era because they were the best on their day.

woodchopper

mistermano wrote: »

where did you read that?

letsrun?

Lets what?

It seems the good weather has brought all the trolls out from beneath the bridge.

woodchopper

YFlyer wrote: »

Interesting interview with Walker, Elliott, Cram and Delaney

http://www.coolrunning.com.au/general/1999e016.shtml


CRAM: I think John was right. You have to look at each era on its merits and understand how these guys were training, the tracks and the set up of races with pacemakers etc.. I think El Guerrouj is a fantastic athlete - some of the sessions he does are phenomenal. But his achievements have been a product of everything these guys (here) and those in my era have done in moving everything forward. The reason I was so good was because he [John Walker] was so good and I had to be good just to get on the British team, so you're as good as what you have to be if you want to be the best. The challenge is to constantly improve yourself even if you're trying to be the best. Now, El Geurrouj has wanted to add his name to the list of bests and in order to do that, he's had to train at a level that is higher than what we did. The thing that makes me think that he's perhaps no better than any of these guys here or any other names that we've mentioned, is that behind El Guerrouj is a bunch of guys running 3:29 and 3:30 who I KNOW are not as good as the guys in this room. And the only reason they're doing that is because they're being dragged along with the pace of the races. Seb Coe, Steve Ovett, Said Aouita were better athletes than those guys. While the current crop are faster, there's a different set of circumstances surrounding them. And I firmly believe all these guys (here) would have run faster now than they have in the past if they were training and racing in the modern era because they were the best on their day.

Ah sure I suppose Lasse Viren would have beaten the likes of Geb, Tergat, Bekele and Farah using Crams line of thinking. Whatever helps him sleep at night.

pconn062

woodchopper wrote: »

Their seems to be a mentality among young Irish club runners who run 800-1500 that just because you run the 1500 means you get the easy option when it comes to training . Its the oh I run the 1500 so my long run is only 10 miles and I run 50 miles a week cause thats what Coe and Lagat did.

Firstly speed comes from strenght so a fit 5k athlete with good leg turnover will run very fast over 1500. Thats how Silas Kiplagat and Kiprop train and I should know a thing or two about Silas's training programme.

Go on......

RandyMann

Some good points there Woodchopper. What do you know or how do you know about Silas's training. Just curious...

tunney

How is his thyroid problem these days?

MrCreosote

Much better with the replacement apparently!

I wouldn't really blame him for it- it's not (currently) banned, and he's probably just listening to whatever bullsh*t the prescribing quack is spouting.

hypersonic

hypothyroid, sure even the great Carl Lewis suffered from that, I doubt there's much of an advantage in having that condition anymore.
IMHO the use of altitude tents should be banned, It's abused too much.

edit: hypothyroid is covered in current edition of running times, there's that doc in Houston with 11 Olympic/world champions (past and present) on the books.

tunney

MrCreosote wrote: »

Much better with the replacement apparently!

I wouldn't really blame him for it- it's not (currently) banned, and he's probably just listening to whatever bullsh*t the prescribing quack is spouting.

Everyone his coach coaches has that condition. And a number of other ones too.

Weird cluster of illness there.

mistermano

tunney wrote: »

Everyone his coach coaches has that condition. And a number of other ones too.

Weird cluster of illness there.

do they all have?

does mo have it?

Kurt Godel

tunney wrote: »

Everyone his coach coaches has that condition. And a number of other ones too.

Weird cluster of illness there.

It's geographic. Lots of asthma around Portland too. But FWIW, with a doc's note, both are legal.

fiddy3

Awful lot of female Jamaicans had braces around the time of their big breakthroughs at Beijing Olympics too. Poor souls, dental care mustn't be the best over there.

ecoli

Mod: Little late to the party on this one but given the amount of speculation here there is no point in snipping posts so this thread is being closed.

Enough warnings have been given out at this stage that this will be cracked down on and more bans enforce

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