certificate of no impediment

Hakuna matata

Hi guys

This might be such a silly question and I apologise in advance for it.

Myself and my partner have been together for ten years, we have one young child and we want to get married. No big white wedding no big fuss just us. We looked into Gretna green and have provisionally booked it for 6 weeks time. Our problem is is that since receiving forms to fill out I noticed that they are looking for certificate of no impediment. I have been doing some research today and have found that to get this we have to make appointment with registrar here and give them €150 and at least three months notice to just meet with them. I know this process can be rushed if either of us are sick but that is not the case.

We just want to get married. We have started organising our wedding many times since we got engaged two years ago but unfortunately everything goes against us. We looked into Gretna green and it seemed to be hassle free, until I can across the part about submitting this form. :-( can anyone advise me on this? Am I right that it takes this long? I just don't understand why we would have to pay two registrars.

Thanks in advance and sorry for the long story appreciate any advise and feedback you can give me :-)

Berty

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/birth_family_relationships/getting_married/notification_requirements_for_marriage.html#l20b4f

It's €200. Everybody has to pay it I'm afraid.

I always find the Citizens Info website a little more organised and easier to read than other websites, such as the GRO.

Gatica

plus you'll need to give 3 month notice, no getting around this. You can't get married earlier than that.

lazygal

You will have to pay but the three month notice period is regularly disregarded for reasons like illness, a pressing time limit etc-its not that difficult to get around but I'm not sure whether you'll need to get a solicitor to act on your behalf, which would incur additional costs.

I really think people need to read up on the legal aspects of marriage ceremonies before booking anything - until you've had the meeting with the registrar its just too much of a chance to take.

Gatica

lazygal wrote: »

You will have to pay but the three month notice period is regularly disregarded for reasons like illness, a pressing time limit etc-its not that difficult to get around but I'm not sure whether you'll need to get a solicitor to act on your behalf, which would incur additional costs.

I really think people need to read up on the legal aspects of marriage ceremonies before booking anything - until you've had the meeting with the registrar its just too much of a chance to take.

Didn't know they could ignore the 3 month notice. Thought it said on HSE site that could only be done by a judge in court in extreme circumstances like illness, he's heading off with the army, etc.. not "cos we really want to"; as then couldn't everyone just disregard the requirement...?

Hakuna matata

Thanks guys...I have rang the clinic and they told me there is no such thing here!!! I'm so confused! As far as they are concerned we are getting married in Scotland and sign forms there..so no need to get any form here..does that make sense!

lazygal

Gatica wrote: »

Didn't know they could ignore the 3 month notice. Thought it said on HSE site that could only be done by a judge in court in extreme circumstances like illness, he's heading off with the army, etc.. not "cos we really want to"; as then couldn't everyone just disregard the requirement...?

Most people don't plan a wedding within three months though! I've know it happen because of, lets just say, non life or death situations. It's not a huge deal, just another hurdle to jump through. It really isn't as rare as you'd think, but its also not an everyday occurrence.

lazygal

Hakuna matata wrote: »

Thanks guys...I have rang the clinic and they told me there is no such thing here!!! I'm so confused! As far as they are concerned we are getting married in Scotland and sign forms there..so no need to get any form here..does that make sense!

You could ask a solicitor to issue such a certification and get it notarized?

Gatica

Hakuna matata wrote: »

Thanks guys...I have rang the clinic and they told me there is no such thing here!!! I'm so confused! As far as they are concerned we are getting married in Scotland and sign forms there..so no need to get any form here..does that make sense!

I'm confused. Are you not getting married in Ireland? Why do "they" think you are getting married in Scotland?

Snaga

You are getting married outside of the state so local requirements don't apply.... there is no registration procedure here for out of state marriages.

You have been told that this document is not required in Scotland - so happy days - no impediment to a quick ceremony.

Just come back with your marriage certificate as this will be required for any changes in documentation based on your new status (Should you or your partner wish to change names etc... updating drivers licences, passports etc.., tax changes etc...).

<edit - looks like I missed a bit - see Little Teds post (12) below - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=85462071&postcount=12 >

Snaga

Gatica wrote: »

I'm confused. Are you not getting married in Ireland? Why do "they" think you are getting married in Scotland?

Gretna Green is a Village in Scotland (From first post).

tatli_lokma

OP, I think others are confused. Yes you do need to give 3 mths notice and pay registration, but only if you are marrying in the state. If you are marrying abroad there is no need to give notice to the Irish authorities. As you are marrying in Scotland, the rules of registration do not apply.

To get a certificate of non-impediment you do not contact the registrar but the Dept of Foreign Affairs.
Normally you need to give 4 months notice to get a cert of non-impediment, but if you pay an additional fee you can get one within 28 days.

Information from Dept of Foreign Affairs webite here:
http://www.dfa.ie/home/index.aspx?id=274

Snaga

Little Ted wrote: »

To get a certificate of non-impediment you do not contact the registrar but the Dept of Foreign Affairs.
Normally you need to give 4 months notice to get a cert of non-impediment, but if you pay an additional fee you can get one within 28 days.

And as your contacts in Gretna Green have informed you - they do not require this certificate of non-impediment document so you are good to go.


<edit - seems I misread the OP and missed a bit - see next post >

tatli_lokma

Snaga wrote: »

And as your contacts in Gretna Green have informed you - they do not require this certificate of non-impediment document so you are good to go.

According to OP's first post, Gretna Green are requesting a cert of non-impediment

Hakuna matata wrote: »

We looked into Gretna green and have provisionally booked it for 6 weeks time. Our problem is is that since receiving forms to fill out I noticed that they are looking for certificate of no impediment. ......

We looked into Gretna green and it seemed to be hassle free, until I can
across the part about submitting this form.

Snaga

Little Ted wrote: »

According to OP's first post, Gretna Green are requesting a cert of non-impediment

Yoiks - I completely missed that - thanks for pointing it out Little Ted - apologies OP.

tatli_lokma

I didn't realise myself that Gretna asked for this stuff - I thought it was a turn up, get married sort of thing! clearly not!

Gatica

Snaga wrote: »

Gretna Green is a Village in Scotland (From first post).

saw the name, just thought it was the name of a hotel... Not familiar with non-impediment forms. Hope you got the info from Little Ted's post.

Hakuna matata

Thank you so so much...do you know if registrar in Scotland will accept this that late though?can it be brought on the day?just we need to get m10 and copies of birth certs off ASAP

tatli_lokma

I think the safest thing is to contact the place you have booked and check how far in advance you need to supply the paperwork. It might be a case that you just present it on the day, but better to be safe than sorry. It would be terrible to travel to Scotland only to find out you had missed a step somewhere along the way.

Best of luck.

LadyHobbit

Hakuna Matata - Did you ever sort this out? Or can you remember what you did in the end? I'm in sort of the same situation myself. Thanks in advance.