Beheadings in Syria

Paddy Samurai

Although it turned out not to be the priest in the liveleak video below I still don't get how you can butcher someone like that with everyone looking on and recording it on their phones.
I don't get it, they had guns ,why not just shoot them FFS .


http://therealsingapore.com/content/syria-catholic-priest-beheaded-islamic-terrorists?fb_comment_id=fbc_594344487252705_83378899_595211537166000#f3288bbd94

Human Rights Watch has dismissed reports that three Franciscan friars were beheaded in Syria in a graphic video that emerged on YouTube this week. The findings by HRW back claims that the footage was used for propaganda by Bashar al-Assad's regime.

According to an in-depth investigation by the New York-based organisation, the footage was shot in April and shows the beheading of two people whom the people speaking in the video refer to as shabiha - collaborators with the Assad regime - in the village of Mashhad Ruhin 120km from Ghassaniyah.

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wendell borton

Its the usual m.o. of jihadist mujahedin. They are only in Syria to spread fear and terror.

Saab Ed

Do you think we could build a big enough wall around the place! I'd add a few other territories to the list while I'm at it. Fcuking animals.

My name is URL

The scary part is that people in the west seem to support the actions of these 'rebels'. Maybe not the beheadings etc, but the fact that they're trying to gain control of the country.

Also, don't watch the video linked to in the OP's article. It's horrible.

token101

Used for propoganda? To be fair, it doesn't take much spinning does it?

JONJO THE MISER

And we hear calls in the media to support these savages, anyone who gives 1 dime to these people are supporting this.

Roger_007

If I was in Syria I'd beheading somewhere else. So much for for freedom-fighting!

wretcheddomain

Roger_007 wrote: »

If I was in Syria I'd beheading somewhere else. So much for for freedom-fighting!

I agree - I wouldn't hang around either.

Duggy747

Hard to understand the support given the sheer viciousness of this ragtag mix of people who claim to be the great FSA with their public exectutions, floggings, and standard religious extremism. Assad's army are far from good but these guys are relentless lunatics.

They upload these kinds of videos almost daily, as well as doing thins publicly, to spread their form of fear and terror. Liveleak alone has hours of footage on it's site from them.

Riddle101

My name is URL wrote: »

The scary part is that people in the west seem to support the actions of these 'rebels'. Maybe not the beheadings etc, but the fact that they're trying to gain control of the country.

Also, don't watch the video linked to in the OP's article. It's horrible.

These rebels are different from other rebels fighting in Syria. There are other factions in the civil war not just this one. This one is Jabhat al-Nusra
which is more extreme and violent, and is supposed to have ties with Al Queda. The Free Syrian Army however are the main rebels fighting the war. I'm not quite sure entirely of the FSA's actions in the war, maybe they are just as brutal, but maybe not. But they are not these guys.

I don't think there is much of a relationship between Jabhat al-Nusra and FSA, except for the fact that they are fighting the same enemy.

But i'm quite sure the west does not support these guys. But that being said, the west should be careful about supporting any rebel factions in the war. In fact they should just stay out of it altogether.

.jacksparrow.

And America thought it was a great idea to arm these, bravo......

gurramok

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

And America thought it was a great idea to arm these, bravo......

Educate yourself and other posters who jump to conclusions. They are arming the FSA, not the Jihadists.

.jacksparrow.

gurramok wrote: »

Educate yourself and other posters who jump to conclusions. They are arming the FSA, not the Jihadists.

Oh I didn't realise they were fighting separately, don't be so naive.

Jonny7

My name is URL wrote: »

The scary part is that people in the west seem to support the actions of these 'rebels'. Maybe not the beheadings etc, but the fact that they're trying to gain control of the country.

The West doesn't support these foreign jihadists and extremist brigades. Few countries do.

They do however support the uprising in Syria, which many have decided to confuse with the above.

.jacksparrow.

Jonny7 wrote: »

The West doesn't support these foreign jihadists and extremist brigades. Few countries do.

They do however support the uprising in Syria, which many have decided to confuse with the above.

An uprising? There has been many cases supported by evidence of war crimes from the FSA, but it has been nicely massaged as an uprising, propaganda at its best.

biko

Why is it "beheaded" and not "deheaded" but it's "decapitated" and not "becapitated"?

UCDVet

While this is a very serious topic, it's nothing to go losing our heads about...

Jonny7

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

An uprising? There has been many cases supported by evidence of war crimes from the FSA, but it has been nicely massaged as an uprising, propaganda at its best.

It was an uprising preceded by largely peaceful mass protests (which went on for months)

The FSA themselves formed from defected Syrian army units and volunteers.

As with any war or conflict, as it goes on there are atrocities on both sides. Yes, that includes members of the FSA.

Most agree the regime has committed the bulk of atrocities, wide-scale imprisonment, torture, disappearances, the shelling of towns and cities - and the use of the Shabiha militia's.

Most FSA commanders and leaders, who've militarily always been on the back-foot will absolutely accept the help of any group, actually they find these jihadists incredibly brave and excellent fighters - but the flipside is they don't agree with their ideology, and certainly don't want to live in some religious state.

Some FSA commanders have said that if/when Assad falls, the next conflict will be between themselves and these groups.

These foreign groups (which include many European individuals) are essentially the third element with most arriving in around 2012 to a conflict they see as Sunni vs Shia.

.jacksparrow.

Ah the old chestnut, people die that's what happens in a war, so that makes it all ok.

therewillbe

Skum!Dirty Feffin Skum!

Gweedling

But they've got muslamic ray guns.

Gweedling

UCDVet wrote: »

While this is a very serious topic, it's nothing to go losing our heads about...

It is a very serious topic. These people should be punished.

Heads will roll for this.

Elmer Blooker

Jonny7 wrote: »

The West doesn't support these foreign jihadists and extremist brigades. Few countries do.

yeah, right. Where did I hear this before?
In the 80s the west didn't arm jihadists they armed "freedom fighters" against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, the result - The Taliban.

Riddle101

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

yeah, right. Where did I hear this before?
In the 80s the west didn't arm jihadists they armed "freedom fighters" against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, the result - The Taliban.

In fairness these jihadists are connected to Al Queda. Do you think the west is going to arm their enemy knowing who they are? As for the Taliban, I agree it was stupid when you look at how things turned out. However I guess you could say it was a time when the Soviet Union was the enemy, and the Taliban were an unknown factor at the time. Plus Al Nursa have attacked the FSA too, so I doubt the West would support them, if they support the FSA.

My name is URL

Jonny7 wrote: »

The West doesn't support these foreign jihadists and extremist brigades. Few countries do.

They do however support the uprising in Syria, which many have decided to confuse with the above.

The FSA is a hodgepodge of people with different goals, agendas, and beliefs. You'd need to be very naive to believe that no Jihadists or other extremists exist within the midsts of the Free Syrian Army. When things finally calm down there's going to be an awful lot of nutters left with weapons and the means to cause another shitstorm if when things don't go their way.

Besides, the FSA themselves (not its purported allies) have been responsible for quite a few war-crimes already. Summarily executing Alawites for example. They say that those responsible will face trial, but there's zero evidence that they have even been identified or arrested, or that any attempt has even been made to do so.

Jonny7

My name is URL wrote: »

The FSA is a hodgepodge of people with different goals, agendas, and beliefs. You'd need to be very naive to believe that no Jihadists or other extremists exist within the midsts of the Free Syrian Army. When things finally calm down there's going to be an awful lot of nutters left with weapons and the means to cause another shitstorm if when things don't go their way.

As opposed to the nutters who've just killed 10's of thousands of their own countrymen. We don't see the women and children in outlaying villages getting their throats slit because the pro-government groups are clever enough not to film themselves doing it.

Besides, the FSA themselves (not its purported allies) have been responsible for quite a few war-crimes already. Summarily executing Alawites for example. They say that those responsible will face trial, but there's zero evidence that they have even been identified or arrested, or that any attempt has even been made to do so.

In almost any war or conflict there are war crimes on both sides. Syria is no different from WW2. There's no excuse for them, but where fighting becomes desperate and bitter - so follow these atrocities

Militarily it's astonishing the FSA and offshoots have held out this long against the bulk of the Syrian army - they are fighting main battle-tanks, helicopter gunships and Al-Assad forces have full air dominance, as well as still keeping intact many of the interior security forces and loyal militias.

The FSA are no saints, but they were the only group to form and to try and stop what Bashar was doing to his own people. On principle, they were fighting a good cause - it's just sadly become so diluted with both the length of the conflict, the atrocities that have escalated and the influx of foreign extremists hellbent on videoing themselves being savages.

Hitchens

Muslim extremists kill priests, burn churches and kidnap women: Egypt's Arab Spring dream has descended into a nightmare of religious hate acts against Christians.

theSHU

I watched loads of the LiveLeak footage coming from Syria. A lot of it is disgusting; random executions, beheadings, burying people alive etc.

Obama is a fcuking moron for giving weapons to those savages.

Qardaha

gurramok wrote: »

Educate yourself and other posters who jump to conclusions. They are arming the FSA, not the Jihadists.

You should really catch up with the times and join the media in admitting that the FSA and Jabhat al-Nusra/Al-Qaeda are joined at the hip. In fact, the weapons sent last year from Croatia (with CIA assistance) ended up in the hands of Jabhat al-Nusra and are used on a daily basis.

Photos: http://syriareport.net/jabhat-al-nusra-with-foreign-weapons/

Jonny7 wrote: »

The West doesn't support these foreign jihadists and extremist brigades. Few countries do.

They do however support the uprising in Syria, which many have decided to confuse with the above.

Yes, the West does support them, indirectly and knowingly.

Jonny7 wrote: »

It was an uprising preceded by largely peaceful mass protests (which went on for months)

Really? How big was the biggest "mass" protest? The "mass protests" accounted for less than 1% of the population and were dwarfed by absolutely gigantic pro-government rallies in major important cities such as Aleppo and Damascus.

Jonny7 wrote: »

The FSA themselves formed from defected Syrian army units and volunteers.

Yeah, corrupt military to brass (of which there are thousands), who were expelled and kicked out of the country.

Jonny7 wrote: »

Most agree the regime has committed the bulk of atrocities, wide-scale imprisonment, torture, disappearances, the shelling of towns and cities - and the use of the Shabiha militia's.

Copied and pasted from the London-based Syrian Laboratory of Human Rights, no doubt. Can you explain to readers here, what Shabiha means?

Most FSA commanders and leaders, who've militarily always been on the back-foot will absolutely accept the help of any group, actually they find these jihadists incredibly brave and excellent fighters - but the flipside is they don't agree with their ideology, and certainly don't want to live in some religious state.

You have absolutely no evidence for this. And on the contrary, I have much evidence to prove the opposite.

Qardaha

We have our very own Al-Qaeda types heading over from Dublin 4, glorified by the Irish media (when they do mention it)

http://syriareport.net/man-raised-in-ireland-killed-in-syria/

GalwayGuy2

Quote:
Originally Posted by .jacksparrow.
And America thought it was a great idea to arm these, bravo......

Educate yourself and other posters who jump to conclusions. They are arming the FSA, not the Jihadists.

The "Americans" were practically forced into giving to the FSA. They tried to avoid it, but once they said Chemical Weapons were the final line and then it was crossed...

Hmmm, beheadings strange. There's probably lots of cultural things going on. There's probably the fear aspect, the religious aspect, and a part of me says there's a martial aspect.

Qardaha

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

The "Americans" were practically forced into giving to the FSA. They tried to avoid it, but once they said Chemical Weapons were the final line and then it was crossed...

How did you arrive at that conclusion? The US has seemingly made up the allegations (again), presenting absolutely no evidence while at the same time, almost hysterically defending the opposition when allegations again them are made regarding chemical weapons.

So, how was America "forced" into it?

I'll remind you that the US organised an arms drop last year: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/25/world/middleeast/arms-airlift-to-syrian-rebels-expands-with-cia-aid.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Duckjob

There really should be a strong warning in the OP about that video - it's absolutely horrific.

I can watch gore in movies all day long knowing it's made up, watching that made me feel distinctly queasy.

Norfolk Enchants

Over twenty 'new Irish' are fighting over there. What fun awaits.

Duckjob

Duckjob wrote: »

There really should be a strong warning in the OP about that video - it's absolutely horrific.

I can watch gore in movies all day long knowing it's made up, watching that made me feel distinctly queasy.

Surely the words 'beheading' and 'graphic' would have been enough warning for most people? They certainly gave me enough of a clue not to watch it.

Qardaha

Norfolk Enchants wrote: »

Over twenty 'new Irish' are fighting over there. What fun awaits.

There are more, believe me. Account for the secretive nature of Al-Qaeda's affiliates and then consider the potential numbers of Irish jihadhists fighting. Syrian news channels often announce militants killed originating from Ireland.

Ruudi_Mentari

We don't want to be implicated in any of this stuff, either side. Another major drawback of taking on refugees.

Duckjob

Jake1 wrote: »

Surely the words 'beheading' and 'graphic' would have been enough warning for most people? They certainly gave me enough of a clue not to watch it.

You might be right. That said, graphic can mean different things to different people. RTE warn of graphic images when a report shows some blood on the footpath.

Hitchens

Duckjob wrote: »

RTE warn of graphic images when a report shows some blood on the footpath.

"viewers are warned the following scenes contain flash photography"

Duckjob

Duckjob wrote: »

You might be right. That said, graphic can mean different things to different people. RTE warn of graphic images when a report shows some blood on the footpath.

true enough

the_syco

Ah yes, beheading with a butter knife.

The videos are made to show why you should fear (insert religion here) as (insert religion here) is the religion of peace... :rolleyes:

Remember kids; kill them by the gun, it's barbaric, kill them with a butter knife, and it's some cultural thing going on :pac:

why did I watch this

Qardaha

Marah Hassan (19), a student of English literature and an admin of a Syrian national page in Arabic. was executed today while she was travelling from Damascus to Tartous. Her killers - "rebels".

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/543110_359260920866134_382637726_n.jpg

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

why did I watch this

em, because you wanted to watch a beheading??

My name is URL

Chemical weapons (weaponized cyanide apparently) were used today leaving scores of people including hundreds of children dead.

Pics and vids below.

http://www.therevoltingsyrian.com/post/58902680033/the-chemical-attack-massacre-of-damascus

WARNING - THE ABOVE IMAGES AND VIDEOS ARE EXCEPTIONALLY GRAPHIC; SOME ARE OF CHILDREN DYING; WATCH WITH EXTREME CAUTION

Christ the Redeemer

My name is URL wrote: »

The scary part is that people in the west seem to support the actions of these 'rebels'. Maybe not the beheadings etc, but the fact that they're trying to gain control of the country.

Also, don't watch the video linked to in the OP's article. It's horrible.

It's awesome! we can support them right up until they overthrow Assad, then the Yanks get a nice war to get them out.

Jelle1880

That chemical weapon attack is so weird...

UN inspectors (allowed in the country by Assad) were 20 minutes away from the area where it happened, I know Assad is a huge c*nt but surely he's not that stupid ?

Also, if I'm not mistaken the attack happened in rebel occupied territory ?

Sounds fishy to me.

Christ the Redeemer

Jelle1880 wrote: »

That chemical weapon attack is so weird...

UN inspectors (allowed in the country by Assad) were 20 minutes away from the area where it happened, I know Assad is a huge c*nt but surely he's not that stupid ?

Also, if I'm not mistaken the attack happened in rebel occupied territory ?

Sounds fishy to me.

Fishy as all ****.

My name is URL

Jelle1880 wrote: »

That chemical weapon attack is so weird...

UN inspectors (allowed in the country by Assad) were 20 minutes away from the area where it happened, I know Assad is a huge c*nt but surely he's not that stupid ?

Also, if I'm not mistaken the attack happened in rebel occupied territory ?

Sounds fishy to me.

Yep, and the causes of death have not been independently verified as of yet. Whatever it was, or whoever is responsible remains to be seen, but there's no arguing that something happened. The vids speak for themselves.. it certainly looks like a chemical attack.

Some speculation that it's an attempt by rebels to provoke Assad and / or simple propaganda. Disgusting that innocent people are being murdered for political reasons regardless.

Amirani

It's hard to believe claims coming from either side. Both sides are guilty of war crimes.

Christ the Redeemer

My name is URL wrote: »

Yep, and the causes of death have not been independently verified as of yet. Whatever it was, or whoever is responsible remains to be seen, but there's no arguing that something happened. The vids speak for themselves.. it certainly looks like a chemical attack.

Some speculation that it's an attempt by rebels to provoke Assad and / or simple propaganda. Disgusting that innocent people are being murdered for political reasons regardless.

The problem is, even if it is the rebels, the UN are pro western and will likely cover it up to suit the aims of UIsraelSA