What car do I get next

paco451

Hey all,

So I've got a Peugeot 307 hdi, having so many problems with it so I'm getting a new car.

I'm in a toss up between:

1.4 Mg, ZR,
2.0 Hyundai coupe automatic fx,
1.5 Mitsubishi colt czt

All petrol,

Anyone own these before? What kind of problems etc would I be looking at here?

Thanks in advance

MidlandsM

paco451 wrote: »

Hey all,

So I've got a Peugeot 307 hdi, having so many problems with it so I'm getting a new car.

I'm in a toss up between:

1.4 Mg, ZR,
2.0 Hyundai coupe automatic fx,
1.5 Mitsubishi colt czt

All petrol,

Anyone own these before? What kind of problems etc would I be looking at here?

Thanks in advance

all sh/t to be honest, the MG will empty your wallet in repairs, the hyundai will cost you a fortune in fuel, and those colts are not relatively trouble free like the old ones with lots of niggly sh!t, like trottle position sensors and electric steering issues.

paco451

What would you recommend for fuel efficiency?

Max Power1

I had an mg zr, it was a POS, and a pig on fuel.

Dont get one!

Also, the hyundai is a "mutton dressed as lamb" car (fake sportscar), and the colt is a nothing car. A small city car of which there are better ones out there.

What is the budget and what are you looking for (space, mpg, power, speed, torque etc)

Renegade Mechanic

The Hyundai would be my pick of the three. Mgs are trouble on near french car levels. The colts are kinda boring ans as mentioned, a little dodgy sometimes too. The Coupes are the most reliable of your selection but try to get manual if at all possible. Irelands fuel prices are just too high for autos.

FearDark

Three AWFUL cars, why are you considering those out of interest?

paco451

Price range about 3k, just spotted those three and I've always liked the look of them and thought they were sound mechanically, to be honest I wasn't really thinking the way I should. I need something for decent MPG, size etc doesn't really matter I just need something fuel efficient that isn't going to cramp up after a few months.

YbFocus

Your getting rid of a car because of poor reliability and these are your choices?
Maybe the colt would be ok enough but the other two will break your heart!

paco451

I'm getting rid of the one I have right now because the problems I have with it at the moment stump mechanics I've brought it to. I don't really want to have to put in too much money into fixing something they don't really know how to fix. I'm open to ideas and suggestions just need something reliable

Max Power1

Perhaps you could get a grand off this (no connection with the seller)

paco451

Max Power1 wrote: »

Perhaps you could get a grand off this (no connection with the seller)

Lol if I was looking to buy a classic then yes

Renegade Mechanic

Ah... From the point of mpg, the coupe mightnt be the best alright. But if saving money is key, and size isnt too important. Then bear in ming that mpg isnt the only money saver. Right now, a combination of heavy over-engineering, complexity and Irelands frankly despicable diesel situation means that petrol cars, while not as frugal, are trouncing diesels in terms of reliability and maintenance costs. I own two cars, one is off the road long term but the other, a 03 Renault Laguna with a 1.6 litre petrol engine hasnt missed a beat on me yet. Im not saying buy one, they have a.... dubious reputation, but compared to its injector eating, pump munching and turbo killing diesel siblings, its as good as gold. And easier to fix and cheaper, generally, too when things do go wrong. And the same is true across the board. Plus by keeping within 100 kmh and using proper driving techniques, I'm averaging 47 mpg! Its very hard to get a good diesel on the second hand market now, old school diesels exempt of course, so I would be incline to get a mid sized petrol car. A 1.5 nissan almera (around 04 shape) would be a good start. Rough drivers will suffer with reverse gear and the radio/fan controls are tricky for some but besides that theyre fantastic cars.

paco451

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Ah... From the point of mpg, the coupe mightnt be the best alright. But if saving money is key, and size isnt too important. Then bear in ming that mpg isnt the only money saver. Right now, a combination of heavy over-engineering, complexity and Irelands frankly despicable diesel situation means that petrol cars, while not as frugal, are trouncing diesels in terms of reliability and maintenance costs. I own two cars, one is off the road long term but the other, a 03 Renault Laguna with a 1.6 litre petrol engine hasnt missed a beat on me yet. Im not saying buy one, they have a.... dubious reputation, but compared to its injector eating, pump munching and turbo killing diesel siblings, its as good as gold. And easier to fix and cheaper, generally, too when things do go wrong. And the same is true across the board. Plus by keeping within 100 kmh and using proper driving techniques, I'm averaging 47 mpg! Its very hard to get a good diesel on the second hand market now, old school diesels exempt of course, so I would be incline to get a mid sized petrol car. A 1.5 nissan almera (around 04 shape) would be a good start. Rough drivers will suffer with reverse gear and the radio/fan controls are tricky for some but besides that theyre fantastic cars.

Thanks for the heads up, I've seen a few petrol almeras that don't look half bad, ill keep then In mind, I'm making a few calls tomorrow so ill check that out too.
Due to poor past experience a friend had with Renault I'd be inclined to stay away from them, petrol or diesel.
I'm having a look at a focus, Chevy Kalos and Citroen c3, again reviews don't ever do justice so I might test drive a bit before I make a finite decision

meoklmrk91

OP what are your main requirements for the car? How many miles do you do a year? What do you want most out of the car? Cheap Tax, economy, reliability, looks, comfort, space etc.

Renegade Mechanic

Yeah Renault can be a real heart breaker. French cars, in general are tough. But credit where its due, their small cars are decent. C3s equipped with the likes of the 1.1 engine are ok but the Japanese still hold the ring for reliability. Best of luck with whatever you choose!

paco451

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

OP what are your main requirements for the car? How many miles do you do a year? What do you want most out of the car? Cheap Tax, economy, reliability, looks, comfort, space etc.

Basically need something that won't clap out after a few months and that isn't too heavy on fuel. Looks etc isn't really a huge deal. Something above 2002. Just looking for ideas on cars that haven't given people too many problems etc while I'm searching

YbFocus

paco451 wrote: »

Basically need something that won't clap out after a few months and that isn't too heavy on fuel. Looks etc isn't really a huge deal. Something above 2002. Just looking for ideas on cars that haven't given people too many problems etc while I'm searching

A mk1 focus, may be a bit heavy on the juice compared to others but they don't give nearly any trouble.

meoklmrk91

paco451 wrote: »

Basically need something that won't clap out after a few months and that isn't too heavy on fuel. Looks etc isn't really a huge deal. Something above 2002. Just looking for ideas on cars that haven't given people too many problems etc while I'm searching

Yaris or a 1.25 Fiesta would be my choice to reliability, easy on fuel, cheap all rounders.

paco451

@ybfocus ill keep an eye out,
@meoklmrk91 I had seen a fiesta so ill look into that also. Thanks for the help

padma

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-civic-just-ncted/5097131

mustang01

wont go wrong with a focus unless of course its been neglected by previous owner !

holdmybeer

If I had to pick one it would be the Mitsubishi Colt. I found that very reliable when I had one but for 3k you could get a decent Corolla.

Donnchadh

I'm selling this if you are interested. It's never given me an ounce of trouble and NCT until June 2015.



http://www.adverts.ie/car/opel/astra/2005-opel-astra-sri-1-8l-3dr-for-sale/2982337

copeyhagen

skoda octavia 1.4
focus 1.6
leon 1.4

all decent cars, theyre not gonna set the worl on fire with performance, but decent and reliable.

MidlandsM

copeyhagen wrote: »

skoda octavia 1.4
focus 1.6
leon 1.4

all decent cars, theyre not gonna set the worl on fire with performance, but decent and reliable.

how is a leon with the soft and rubbish vw 1.4 engine in it "decent" ??

EazyD

MidlandsM wrote: »

how is a leon with the soft and rubbish vw 1.4 engine in it "decent" ??

How is it bad? Sure it's fairly gutless and underwhelming, but as a whole package it isn't a particularly bad choice. By your criteria it may be, but for the average Joe it is more than enough.

MidlandsM

they are a **** engine........not to be recommended.....

Renegade Mechanic

VAG (Volkswagen, Audi, Seat, Skoda etc) gearboxes attatched to the 1.4 and 1.6 engines have a habit of selecting two gears at once and going BOOM too..

paco451

Donnchadh wrote: »

I'm selling this if you are interested. It's never given me an ounce of trouble and NCT until June 2015.



http://www.adverts.ie/car/opel/astra/2005-opel-astra-sri-1-8l-3dr-for-sale/2982337

That actually looks quite nice but I'm waiting to see what the mechanic says about my current

EazyD

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

VAG (Volkswagen, Audi, Seat, Skoda etc) gearboxes attatched to the 1.4 and 1.6 engines have a habit of selecting two gears at once and going BOOM too..

I'd vouch that up to 90% of folks running these engines neglect essential maintenance and skip service intervals. Not to say they were brilliant to begin with, with known head gasket/timing belt issues.

Renegade Mechanic

EazyD wrote: »

I'd vouch that up to 90% of folks running these engines neglect essential maintenance and skip service intervals. Not to say they were brilliant to begin with, with known head gasket/timing belt issues.

Youre right, they do. And VW were touting these "maintenance free" gearboxes as were many others. Nothing on a car is maintenance free but hey, if it makes it out of warranty its not their problem. That alone is my biggest gripe with 30,000+ service intervals. The oil needs to be changed an awful lot sooner but once youve past your 100k and left warranty, it doesnt matter to them if your carbon choked diesel loses its chain, blows its turbo etc etc but I digress:)