What would you do for a United Ireland?

Foxhound38

Not very much if this poll is to be believed!

http://www.thejournal.ie/united-ireland-971424-Jun2013/

Would you french kiss a lad? Would you walk a mile over hot coals wearing firelighters, having sprayed Deep Heat on your tongue?

If you could be sure a United Ireland would be the end result, how far would you be willing to go?

errlloyd

It'd be a big sacrifice. But I think I'd be willing to live in Britain for the rest of my life.

The Backwards Man

I wouldn't get out of bed for it.

Amirani

I'd rather we didn't have one.

Anyone

Learn the words to "Ireland's Call"

Festy

Light a candle.

krudler

No much tbh, N Ireland is basically beyond The Wall from Game of Thrones, nobody really cares about whats going on up there aside from a ragtag bunch of old men who have no real power, its full of crazed wildlings plotting the Souths doom, nobody wants to spend any more resources defending it and once they stay up fighting amongst themselves its of no concern to the Southern kingdoms :pac:

Ruudi_Mentari

Not a jot!

mike65

Pay my taxes

as we'd get better value them in a united Ireland under the Union Flag.

Peetrik

Do you want to stay in the UK or do you want to join a country that is billions in debt... decisions decisions Northen Ireland

Ruudi_Mentari

I hate this tribal stuff, let it go.

kneemos

Form a political party and deal drugs to support it.

Grayson

errlloyd wrote: »

It'd be a big sacrifice. But I think I'd be willing to live in Britain for the rest of my life.

Sod that. one or other of the nutjobs up north would start bombing there too. Move somewhere safe.........like syria.

Conmaicne Mara

Nothing.

audman

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Not very much if this poll is to be believed!

http://www.thejournal.ie/united-ireland-971424-Jun2013/

Would you french kiss a lad? Would you walk a mile over hot coals wearing firelighters, having sprayed Deep Heat on your tongue?

If you could be sure a United Ireland would be the end result, how far would you be willing to go?

I would go cage diving with sharks... in an old phone box... dressed as an overweight seal. I'd let my Da do my make up on my wedding day... in the dark... and on a spacehopper.

Ruudi_Mentari

Its just, some guys and their flag.

Being a pain.....

cosanostra

Peetrik wrote: »

Do you want to stay in the UK or do you want to join a country that is billions in debt... decisions decisions Northen Ireland

And when did Britain get its trillions of debt written off?

Foxhound38

It's sad to see the partitionist mindset and lack of patriotism in the current generation - was it for our current half-statelet that Pearse and Connolly died?

Besides, the nordies could teach us how to pronounce "Sitchee-ayshun"

Sir Humphrey Appleby

I would do anything to avoid a United Ireland.

mike65

One comment on the journal entry was quite good - mentioning the defacto creation of a bible belt. True enough. From about Mullingar north the population would contain a high % of nutters.

.jacksparrow.

Another day another northern Ireland thread, for people saying they don't care much for it, it pops up quite a lot on boards.

The Backwards Man

Foxhound38 wrote: »

It's sad to see the partitionist mindset and lack of patriotism in the current generation - was it for our current half-statelet that Pearse and Connolly died?

Besides, the nordies could teach us how to pronounce "Sitchee-ayshun"

Na, I'm not a partitionist, I'm selfish. It's good for my job having one of the world's largest economies on my doorstep.
Besides I live in a country, not a half statelet, and I never asked anybody to die for me.

kneemos

Foxhound38 wrote: »

It's sad to see the partitionist mindset and lack of patriotism in the current generation - was it for our current half-statelet that Pearse and Connolly died?

Besides, the nordies could teach us how to pronounce "Sitchee-ayshun"

I don't feel obliged to be bound by Pearse or Connolly's vision of the future just because they died for it.

mentalist101

Foxhound38 wrote: »

It's sad to see the partitionist mindset and lack of patriotism in the current generation - was it for our current half-statelet that Pearse and Connolly died?

Besides, the nordies could teach us how to pronounce "Sitchee-ayshun"

They didn't die to let the Government put us in Billions of debt either, but s**t happens. Its better for our economy at the moment for NI to remain in Britain.

mattjack

What flavour of "fleg" would be in use ? , would I be able to continue to shout Northie Bastards at people in Croke park ? , would I have more or less Bank Holidays ?

As you can see , my post is all about me .

Would Boards.ie have to change its name ?

Sirfartsalot

I don't think it really matters what opinion polls have to say.

It only took 15,000 IRA fighters (3,000 of which served as fighters at any one time) to establish treaty negotiations with Britain which lead to the eventual withdrawal of British troops from southern Ireland.

The PIRA succeeded in securing concessions from the British with a lesser force and enter power sharing.

So what does that say about how things will be decided in future?

Amirani

Foxhound38 wrote: »

It's sad to see the partitionist mindset and lack of patriotism in the current generation - was it for our current half-statelet that Pearse and Connolly

What's the point in patriotism?

Ruudi_Mentari

I would completely decimate a 'British Isles' bowling tournament with Semtex, if it would give my head peace..

Celly Smunt

I would kill for partition.

c_man

I tell ya what I'd do, two chicks at the same time.

Nemeses

pmcmahon wrote: »

I would kill for partition.

A partition wall is it? Sure don't we already have a border?

Ruudi_Mentari

Nemeses wrote: »

A partition wall is it? Sure don't we already have a border?

I think so else he wants to just break away.

I dunno, am sentimental right now. Couldn't give you an honest interpretation

Celly Smunt

Nemeses wrote: »

A partition wall is it? Sure don't we already have a border?

A wall wouldn't do much harm

zenno

Sure we have a united Nigeria/polish/Brazilian/china/British/ etc... in Ireland already, so does it really matter if we have a united Ireland with the north ? It's all bullsh!t to me at this stage.

It's all a bunch of prickly pears.

Meangadh

It'd be nice in that I do feel very separated from parts of the small island I live on. But that's about it, it'd just be nice. People's priorities are elsewhere now, like putting food on the table and keeping a roof over their heads. Things are hard enough without trying to support another 6 counties.

Besides the terrific job our governments have done in the last few decades... the poor divils in the North have been through enough, why would we ask them to suffer even further? I'm not even being sarcastic here.

I honestly think a United Ireland has never been further from people's priorities. That might seem unpatriotic, but if the last week taught me anything, as a nation we are almost patriotic to a fault by not making a bigger fuss about what certain people have done to our country.

Ruudi_Mentari

the rebel in Ruudi can now sleep, now that the noise has bn killed.

Foxhound38

Nobody is saying people should *have* to live their lives obligated to the examples of the likes of Pearse and Connolly, but have we so little self confidence that we as a Nation lack even basic ambition for the place? What could possibly be wrong with a UI - increased taxpayers, increased investment, greater say for Nationalists and Unionists than is currently the case in the UK, a bit of a political shakeup down here - all seems good to me!

We tear ourselves down far more than do people in other countries

Ten of Swords

The reality is that the republic simply cannot afford NI. Aside from national debt and economic conditions the cost of security and stability alone would be unfeasible.

As an example; If we assume the transition of power was not peaceful (and let's face it - it wouldn't be, there will always be a large elemt of the population opposed to Irish rule in the same way a large element currently opposes british rule) then how would law and order be maintained at the start?

Shatter can't afford anymore Gardai, the force stands at approximately 12,000 for the whole country. You would need that many to secure just Belfast and Derry if serious rioting / insurgency broke out.

I can't see the DF being much help either, if 21,000 british soldiers didn't in bringing the province to heel then the 4,000 - 5,000 or so that we could spare wouldn't have much luck either. Couldn't even guard a fuel truck inside a military base - it would be a clusterf**k waiting to happen.

namloc1980

Couldn't be bothered. Bunch of morons with their parades and flag burnings. We've enough to be dealing with in Ireland without putting with that crap.

Foxhound38

Ten of Swords wrote: »

The reality is that the republic simply cannot afford NI. Aside from national debt and economic conditions the cost of security and stability alone would be unfeasible.

As an example; If we assume the transition of power was not peaceful (and let's face it - it wouldn't be, there will always be a large elemt of the population opposed to Irish rule in the same way a large element currently opposes british rule) then how would law and order be maintained at the start?

Shatter can't afford anymore Gardai, the force stands at approximately 12,000 for the whole country. You would need that many to secure just Belfast and Derry if serious rioting / insurgency broke out.

I can't see the DF being much help either, if 21,000 british soldiers didn't in bringing the province to heel then the 4,000 - 5,000 or so that we could spare wouldn't have much luck either. Couldn't even guard a fuel truck inside a military base - it would be a clusterf**k waiting to happen.

Germany had a significant amount of its debts written off when it reunified, as it was a united Germany was a new political entity - absorbing and replacing West and East Germany. Surely they in turn would be forced into a position whereby a United Ireland could avail of a similar deal?

shruikan2553

Where would I send my parcel motel stuff for cheaper postage?

NI is just a large fire to throw money at, we are perfectly capable of doing that ourselves without the fleg people. Plus I am happy for cheaper postage

namloc1980

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Germany had a significant amount of its debts written off when it reunified, as it was a united Germany was a new political entity - absorbing and replacing West and East Germany. Surely they in turn would be forced into a position whereby a United Ireland could avail of a similar deal?

As far as I know the former West Germany absorbed the massive cost of reunification.

Foxhound38

And I suppose the fact that they are our fellow Irishmen up there doesn't arise to you?

Jimoslimos

Vote, and that doesn't mean for SF, rather the parties that give the political and economical stability for a UI.

Ten of Swords wrote: »

The reality is that the republic simply cannot afford NI. Aside from national debt and economic conditions the cost of security and stability alone would be unfeasible.

The reality is that the UK simply cannot afford NI. How the Tories can justify massive cuts to NHS services in England yet pour billions into NI is beyond me.

Foxhound38

namloc1980 wrote: »

As far as I know the former West Germany absorbed the massive cost of reunification.

I'm referring to foreign debt - West Germany did in fact have to (and still has to) shell out hugely for bringing the underdeveloped East up to scratch - that doesn't arise in the North, Belfast is in many ways better equipped than Dublin is, and Northern infrastructure (roads etc) are in far better shape.

Ziphius

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Germany had a significant amount of its debts written off when it reunified, as it was a united Germany was a new political entity - absorbing and replacing West and East Germany. Surely they in turn would be forced into a position whereby a United Ireland could avail of a similar deal?

German unification in the 1990s did not lead to a new political entity. Former east Germany joined the Federal German Republic as five new Laender or states.

With regard to debt write offs Germany only very recently finished paying its debts for the second world war.

I think the issue with a united Ireland is not debt but the day to day costs of funding an extra 2 million people.

Ten of Swords

Foxhound38 wrote: »

And I suppose the fact that they are our fellow Irishmen up there doesn't arise to you?

No, it does not,

namloc1980

Foxhound38 wrote: »

And I suppose the fact that they are our fellow Irishmen up there doesn't arise to you?

It is up to the people of NI whether they ever want to be part of a UI. It is not up to us.

namloc1980

Foxhound38 wrote: »

I'm referring to foreign debt - West Germany did in fact have to (and still has to) shell out hugely for bringing the underdeveloped East up to scratch - that doesn't arise in the North, Belfast is in many ways better equipped than Dublin is, and Northern infrastructure (roads etc) are in far better shape.

They didn't have foreign debt written off either.

Jimoslimos

Ten of Swords wrote: »

I can't see the DF being much help either, if 21,000 british soldiers didn't in bringing the province to heel then the 4,000 - 5,000 or so that we could spare wouldn't have much luck either. Couldn't even guard a fuel truck inside a military base - it would be a clusterf**k waiting to happen.

So under the threat of violence we should appease them. Remind me of the historical situation where that course of action was shown to be correct.

Ten of Swords

Jimoslimos wrote: »

How the Tories can justify massive cuts to NHS services in England yet pour billions into NI is beyond me.

Very true but we certainly don't have billions to pour into NI, we could barely afford a fraction of the investment the UK put into NI each year