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Spec so far for build 2013

  • 27-06-2013 8:14pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭


    Intel Core i7-3970X Extreme Edition Hex Core Sandy Bridge-E Socket LGA2011 CPU 3.50GHz


    32GB (4x8GB) Corsair DDR3 Dominator Platinum, PC3-19200 (2400), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 10-12-12-31, DHX, XMP, 1.65V

    ASRock X79 EXTREME11, Intel X79, S 2011, DDR3, SATA III - 6Gb/s, SAS/SATA RAID, PCIe 3.0 (x16), CEB

    Asus BC-12B1ST Blu-Ray Combo Black Retail Drive S-ATA/BD-R: 12x/DVD±R: 16x/CD-R: 48x

    HOT SELLER 128GB OCZ Agility 4, 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s, Everest 2, MLC-Flash, Read 420MB/s, Write 300MB/s, 1GB Cache, 72k IOPS Max. X 6 IN RAID 0

    Silverstone TJ11B-W USB 3.0 Black Full Tower ATX Aluminum, with Side Window USB 3.0 w/o PSU

    1200W Corsair Digital AX1200i Full Modular, 80 PLUS Platinum - 92% Eff', EPS 12V, 1 x 140mm Fan, ATX PSU

    6GB EVGA GTX Titan, 28nm, PCIe 3.0 (x16), 6008MHz GDDR5, GPU 837MHz, Boost 876MHz, Cores 2688, DP/ HDMI +Free Game X 2 WAY SLI

    Spec for far


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Agility 4s are fine, but they're pretty over-priced usually. Since you haven't put up prices, I don't know where you're ordering from (but I'd guess Overclockers). I'd swap them out for 840 Pros instead.

    PSU is massive overkill as well, unless you're planning on adding two more Titans in there. A 600W unit would be plenty. 700 if you're planning on very high overclocks.

    I'd also go for GTX 780s over Titans, unless of course you're running triple monitors.

    (There's a reason the "How to ask for computer build help" sticky exists. ;))


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭bladesofglory


    Serephucus wrote: »
    Agility 4s are fine, but they're pretty over-priced usually. Since you haven't put up prices, I don't know where you're ordering from (but I'd guess Overclockers). I'd swap them out for 840 Pros instead.

    PSU is massive overkill as well, unless you're planning on adding two more Titans in there. A 600W unit would be plenty. 700 if you're planning on very high overclocks.

    I'd also go for GTX 780s over Titans, unless of course you're running triple monitors.

    (There's a reason the "How to ask for computer build help" sticky exists. ;))

    Thanks Mate, Comments noted. Im going to be running 3 screens? So would the 780s work fine?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,692 ✭✭✭Danger781


    This is your third thread. You should stick to the one. :confused:

    Why are you still looking at two titans even though we recommended you to get the 780's? Hell you could get 3x780's for the same price.. The only time I would recommend Titans is if you plan on playing on multiple monitors at huge resolutions. I mean 1600p+..

    Doesn't look like that RAM is compatible with your mobo. According to hwvs it doesn't support 2400Mhz RAM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭coolguyrko


    I might be missing something here but do you really need 32GB of RAM. Seems excessive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,692 ✭✭✭Danger781


    coolguyrko wrote: »
    I might be missing something here but do you really need 32GB of RAM. Seems excessive.

    Nobody needs 32GB of RAM. Nobody.

    I'm going to underline and emphasise it for the OP.

    NOBODY NEEDS 32GB OF RAM


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭coolguyrko


    Danger781 wrote: »
    Nobody needs 32GB of RAM. Nobody.

    I'm going to underline and emphasise it for the OP.

    NOBODY NEEDS 32GB OF RAM

    I thought as much 16 is even too much. 8GB is enough and I can only assume a lot cheaper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,692 ✭✭✭Danger781


    coolguyrko wrote: »
    I thought as much 16 is even too much. 8GB is enough and I can only assume a lot cheaper.

    OP has too much money.. In his first thread he set a budget of €5000.

    32GB of RAM and 6 SSD's in RAID0.. Sure why not :pac:

    I have to ask.. Why RAID 0? Sure, it'll give improved performance.. But any drive failure destroys the array, and the likelihood of failure increases with more drives in the array. Why not look into something like RAID 6? It provides fault tolerance of up to two failed drives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭coolguyrko


    Danger781 wrote: »
    OP has too much money.. In his first thread he set a budget of €5000.

    32GB of RAM and 6 SSD's in RAID0.. Sure why not :pac:

    Haha. Sure you never know what might happen.

    OP I suggest you take there advice and give me the saved money so I can make the gaming rig I'm building that much better. Or give me one of your SSD I could do with one. Have a measly budget in comparison


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭bladesofglory


    coolguyrko wrote: »
    Haha. Sure you never know what might happen.

    OP I suggest you take there advice and give me the saved money so I can make the gaming rig I'm building that much better. Or give me one of your SSD I could do with one. Have a measly budget in comparison

    Lads Ill post pics of the build as I start building,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭bladesofglory


    Danger781 wrote: »
    OP has too much money.. In his first thread he set a budget of €5000.

    32GB of RAM and 6 SSD's in RAID0.. Sure why not :pac:

    I have to ask.. Why RAID 0? Sure, it'll give improved performance.. But any drive failure destroys the array, and the likelihood of failure increases with more drives in the array. Why not look into something like RAID 6? It provides fault tolerance of up to two failed drives.

    I prefer the improvement performance over reliability, not to worried about failure on HDD


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    I prefer the improvement performance over reliability, not to worried about failure on HDD

    32GB of RAM is not investing in the future, it's pissing away money. We'll be using DDR4 RAM in the not too distant future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭bladesofglory


    Gumbi wrote: »
    32GB of RAM is not investing in the future, it's pissing away money. We'll be using DDR4 RAM in the not too distant future.

    Would you recon 8GB or 16?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Would you recon 8GB or 16?

    Gaming only? 8. 16 if you HAVE TO. But 8 is fine. I'm a frugal user and I've never gone over 4 GB myself.

    We've already made all these suggestions but you seem determined to ignore them and go off by yourself.

    Why didn't you like Bloodbath's build posted on your originalt thread?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭bladesofglory


    Gumbi wrote: »
    Gaming only? 8. 16 if you HAVE TO. But 8 is fine. I'm a frugal user and I've never gone over 4 GB myself.

    We've already made all these suggestions but you seem determined to ignore them and go off by yourself.

    Why didn't you like Bloodbath's build posted on your original thread?

    Firstly I do appreciate all your feedback and guidance, But im looking to max of my budget so my current build comes to exactly that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Firstly I do appreciate all your feedback and guidance, But im looking to max of my budget so my current build comes to exactly that.

    But you're pissing away money by doing exactly what we told you not to, multiple times, over a thread of a dozen pages. If you really want to "max your budget" spend half of it on high end peripherals. You're not going to get appreciable performance benefits by getting 10 SSDs in RAID, 32GB of RAM etc etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭bladesofglory


    Gumbi wrote: »
    But you're pissing away money by doing exactly what we told you not to, multiple times, over a thread of a dozen pages. If you really want to "max your budget" spend half of it on high end peripherals. You're not going to get appreciable performance benefits by getting 10 SSDs in RAID, 32GB of RAM etc etc

    Ok I do understand 32 GB of ram is way to much, So ill drop the amount of ram and opt for better GPU's. Im not getting 10, Im using 6 SSD/.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,692 ✭✭✭Danger781


    Putting SSD's into RAID seems completely wasteful :D

    3 x 1440p Korean Monitors
    3 x GTX780's
    16GB RAM

    You don't need much more than that. Get two or three Titans if you want to get the same performance for twice the money to have a larger ePeen.

    Get one or two large SSD's and a couple of HDD's. The only time you will see benefit from an SSD would be read heavy operations. i.e. Booting up the computer, loading up games one or two seconds faster, opening/saving larges files and programs. Playing single player games you more than likely won't notice the SSD's. The only time you might would be on multiplayer games when joining the server. You'll probably get there faster than anyone else but you will still need to wait for everyone else to join regardless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    For running 3 screens the titan is a good option. See if you can get factory overclocked versions. RAID SSD are slower for boot and shutdown. Unless you need to store uncompressed video from a capture card they are pointless as they will totally saturate the SATA bus. Maybe a PCI-e SSD would be better as you will have 8 spare PCI-e lanes.

    Get a sound card.

    Savage build BTW.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭bladesofglory


    Danger781 wrote: »
    Putting SSD's into RAID seems completely wasteful :D

    3 x 1440p Korean Monitors
    3 x GTX780's
    16GB RAM

    You don't need much more than that. Get two or three Titans if you want to get the same performance for twice the money to have a larger ePeen.

    Get one or two large SSD's and a couple of HDD's. The only time you will see benefit from an SSD would be read heavy operations. i.e. Booting up the computer, loading up games one or two seconds faster, opening/saving larges files and programs. Playing single player games you more than likely won't notice the SSD's. The only time you might would be on multiplayer games when joining the server. You'll probably get there faster than anyone else but you will still need to wait for everyone else to join regardless.

    HI There

    OK, Iv decided on

    GTX TITANS X 2.
    SSD, KINGSTON 128GB X 6

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,692 ✭✭✭Danger781


    Right I am done helping out with this one.. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭bladesofglory


    Danger781 wrote: »
    Right I am done helping out with this one.. :D

    I will be calling upon your assistance in the not to distant future my dear friend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,692 ✭✭✭Danger781


    I will be calling upon your assistance in the not to distant future my dear friend

    I charge €250 / hour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    I will be calling upon your assistance in the not to distant future my dear friend

    Poor choice of SSD. It seems as if you're actively ignoring our advice and going out of your way to do the exact opposite.

    The only way we can properly help is to lay out EXACTLY what you want from the entire system, and give us your budget. Having more than 512 (and I'm being generous here) GB of SSD space makes no sense for most people, let alone setting up 6 of em in RAID (not to mention your choice of drive).

    Bloodbath suggested a fantastic build a while back, why don't you give us your thoughts on that, what you like/don't like, and it can be tweaked as to your needs.

    Why you went for Titans, again, against advice, I do not know. The coolers are **** on them and they have no OC headroom. The opposite is true for 780s, which, btw have enough vRAM to support high resolutions, are cheaper, and push more performance when OCed on quieter, more effective coolers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,692 ✭✭✭Danger781


    Gumbi wrote: »
    Poor choice of SSD. It seems as if you're actively ignoring our advice and going out of your way to do the exact opposite.

    The only way we can properly help is to lay out EXACTLY what you want from the entire system, and give us your budget. Having more than 512 (and I'm being generous here) GB of SSD space makes no sense for most people, let alone setting up 6 of em in RAID (not to mention your choice of drive).

    Bloodbath suggested a fantastic build a while back, why don't you give us your thoughts on that, what you like/don't like, and it can be tweaked as to your needs.

    He doesn't like not spending €5000 to get that 1 extra FPS.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭bladesofglory


    Danger781 wrote: »
    He doesn't like not spending €5000 to get that 1 extra FPS.

    Well Im gonna explain,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Well Im gonna explain,

    See my post, I also edited in a bit more about Titans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    RAID SSDs is a very silly thing to do. You will see basically no performance improvement, your data will be on eggshells, and your bootup and shutdown times will be longer because your board's RAID controller will have to kick in. Get a 960GB Crucial M500 or two if you want capacity.

    32GB of RAM is also silly. Gaming won't use over 8. If you want to be sure you'll never run out of memory, get 16. Absolutely no point getting more.

    Since you have the money, and you are running triple screens, get Titans instead of 780s. The extra VRAM won't make much odds now, but possibly with next gen titles it will.

    If you want to spend all your money, believe me, I can spec a build that will use it all for you. The difference is I'd use it in places that will actually make a difference.

    Here we are. First off, core parts:

    Item|Price
    Intel Core i7-4770K Box, LGA1150|€304.28
    ASRock Z87 Extreme6, Sockel 1150, ATX|€174.29
    16GB-Kit Corsair Vengeance Low Profile schwarz PC3-12800U CL10-10-10-27|€120.10
    2 x EVGA GeForce GTX Titan, 6GB DDR5, PCI-Express|€1900.98
    Corsair Professional Series Platinum AX860i, 860W, ATX 2.31|€185.18
    Nanoxia Deep Silence One Silver, ATX, ohne Netzteil|€92.66
    Asus Xonar Essence One - extern|€388.03
    3 x Dell UltraSharp U2713HM|€1587.00
    Crucial M500 960GB SATA 6Gb/s|€550.15
    Shipping|€18.99
    Total|€5321.66

    To be combined with the following watercooling parts:

    Item|Price
    XSPC Acrylic Dual 5.25” Reservoir with Alphacool VPP655 / Laing D5 Single Edition : Pump Bundle|£100.56
    XSPC RayStorm CPU Waterblock for Intel : RayStorm Intel|£51.98
    2 x EK FC Titan XXL Full Cover Waterblock for Reference Design NVIDIA GTX Titan Graphics Cards : Nickel Acetal|£219.98
    Alphacool NexXxoS ST30 120mm Single Radiator : Full Copper|£25.00
    Alphacool NexXxos XT45 240mm Dual Radiator : Full Copper|£40.79
    Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta 240mm Dual Radiator : Full Copper|£62.89
    14 x Alphacool 1/4" Thread Compression Fitting for 1/2" ID - 3/4" OD (13-19mm) Tubing : Chrome|£76.94
    3 x Primochill PrimoFlex Advanced LRT 1/2" ID - 3/4" OD (13-19mm) Tubing : Onyx Black|£17.96
    9 x Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm Case Fan 1150 RPM : D1225C12B3AP-13|£125.60
    Shipping|£19.07
    Total|£740.64 (€865)

    Bringing the grand total to just under 6.2k. Will absolutely destroy the machine you were thinking of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,692 ✭✭✭Danger781


    Why not get three 780's?

    Edit: Nevermind, extra VRAM for high res

    Edit two: Thats a very expensive sound card.. I know OP wants to spend money but come on..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Serephucus absolutely agree, but I wouldnt build a 6k system on Haswell. The extra cores and PCI-e lanes of Snadybridge-E would be better, also haswell overclocks like crap. Yes haswell-E is coming but you have to pick a point in time and choose the best part available at that time.

    PS would you do a watercooling system for me if I post it in another thread?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭bladesofglory


    Serephucus wrote: »
    RAID SSDs is a very silly thing to do. You will see basically no performance improvement, your data will be on eggshells, and your bootup and shutdown times will be longer because your board's RAID controller will have to kick in. Get a 960GB Crucial M500 or two if you want capacity.

    32GB of RAM is also silly. Gaming won't use over 8. If you want to be sure you'll never run out of memory, get 16. Absolutely no point getting more.

    Since you have the money, and you are running triple screens, get Titans instead of 780s. The extra VRAM won't make much odds now, but possibly with next gen titles it will.

    If you want to spend all your money, believe me, I can spec a build that will use it all for you. The difference is I'd use it in places that will actually make a difference.

    Here we are. First off, core parts:

    Item|Price
    Intel Core i7-4770K Box, LGA1150|€304.28
    ASRock Z87 Extreme6, Sockel 1150, ATX|€174.29
    16GB-Kit Corsair Vengeance Low Profile schwarz PC3-12800U CL10-10-10-27|€120.10
    2 x EVGA GeForce GTX Titan, 6GB DDR5, PCI-Express|€1900.98
    Corsair Professional Series Platinum AX860i, 860W, ATX 2.31|€185.18
    Nanoxia Deep Silence One Silver, ATX, ohne Netzteil|€92.66
    Asus Xonar Essence One - extern|€388.03
    3 x Dell UltraSharp U2713HM|€1587.00
    Crucial M500 960GB SATA 6Gb/s|€550.15
    Shipping|€18.99
    Total|€5321.66

    To be combined with the following watercooling parts:

    Item|Price
    XSPC Acrylic Dual 5.25” Reservoir with Alphacool VPP655 / Laing D5 Single Edition : Pump Bundle|£100.56
    XSPC RayStorm CPU Waterblock for Intel : RayStorm Intel|£51.98
    2 x EK FC Titan XXL Full Cover Waterblock for Reference Design NVIDIA GTX Titan Graphics Cards : Nickel Acetal|£219.98
    Alphacool NexXxoS ST30 120mm Single Radiator : Full Copper|£25.00
    Alphacool NexXxos XT45 240mm Dual Radiator : Full Copper|£40.79
    Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta 240mm Dual Radiator : Full Copper|£62.89
    14 x Alphacool 1/4" Thread Compression Fitting for 1/2" ID - 3/4" OD (13-19mm) Tubing : Chrome|£76.94
    3 x Primochill PrimoFlex Advanced LRT 1/2" ID - 3/4" OD (13-19mm) Tubing : Onyx Black|£17.96
    9 x Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm Case Fan 1150 RPM : D1225C12B3AP-13|£125.60
    Shipping|£19.07
    Total|£740.64 (€865)

    Bringing the grand total to just under 6.2k. Will absolutely destroy the machine you were thinking of.


    Thanks for the comment, but we can agree to disagree on your statement of "absolutely destroy your machine" complete rubbish.

    When you buy a certain type of machine you are entering real enthusiast market at the particular level the difference between the top tier is little or nothin, only few little marks whilst bench-marking shows.

    Plus i would not spend 1500 quid on 3 screen from dell, and I should I know I currently do work for them, so could get 25% of that price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Serephucus absolutely agree, but I wouldnt build a 6k system on Haswell. The extra cores and PCI-e lanes of Snadybridge-E would be better, also haswell overclocks like crap. Yes haswell-E is coming but you have to pick a point in time and choose the best part available at that time.

    PS would you do a watercooling system for me if I post it in another thread?

    Isn't it IB-E, not Haswell-E that's coming? And no, if you know what you're doing, Haswell does not OC like crap. My friend has his at 4.7ghz on air (4770k) and has benched 10.4k on cinebench, edging out a stock SB-E AFAIK.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Depends on the chip you get, still doesn't come near a Sandybridge-E 6 core processor with more cache, nevermind to chipset memory bandwidth or PCI-e bandwidth. You have to compare overclocked with overclocked. This is a 5k build no need to cut corners of settle.

    31076_02_intel_s_haswell_e_to_kick_some_serious_ass_features_8_cores_ddr4_support_x99_pch_and_more_full.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Ofc I can compare, because even an overclocked Haswell setup costs less than a standard clocked SB-E setup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    @Danger, it's a DAC (same thing, technically) and I want to try it, maybe if he buys one... :P

    @fitz, good point. I'd forgotten about PCIE lanes. Still, I don't think Titans saturate the bandwidth, and sure, I can spec loop for you. Just need current components, budget, etc. and what sort of noise/performance level you're after.

    OP, swap the Z87 Extreme6 for an X79 version, and the CPU for a 3930K. Now you're up to around 6.5. :)

    Edit: See? This is what we're talking about. You know nothing. Watercooled Titans will outperform air cooled Titans, and a watercooled processor will overclock further than an air cooled one. That build will outperform the one you had specced in pretty much every game. For some reason, you decide to completely dismiss everything I said, and just go with what you want.

    I tried to help, but you don't want it, so I'm done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Gumbi wrote: »
    Ofc I can compare, because even an overclocked Haswell setup costs less than a standard clocked SB-E setup.

    I dont get your logic, are we out to save money here. A old Ivy bridge overclocks to beat a stock haswell and costs less, why not use that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    I dont get your logic, are we out to save money here. A old Ivy bridge overclocks to beat a stock haswell and costs less, why not use that?

    Because an overclocked Haswell is good bang for buck if money is spent correctly.

    SB-E isn't when compared. And is not necessary for gaming, so I don't see the justification. Money would be better spent elsewhere in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭bladesofglory


    Ok Lads, Thanks all for the information ill post my spec later on for the finished product


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    In terms of gaming a 4770k would be a better option than the 3930k. Haswell is about 20% or so faster than sandy clock for clock. Games are only starting to use 4 cores. I don't see them using the thread power of the 3930k anytime soon and if they do the 4770k has 4 threads to spare.

    edit - Unless 3 way sli benefits from those extra cores/threads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    BloodBath wrote: »
    In terms of gaming a 4770k would be a better option than the 3930k. Haswell is about 20% or so faster than sandy clock for clock. Games are only starting to use 4 cores. I don't see them using the thread power of the 3930k anytime soon and if they do the 4770k has 4 threads to spare.

    edit - Unless 3 way sli benefits from those extra cores/threads.

    A lot of things about a 5k build make no sense at the moment. Sandy-E is still cock for clock better than haswell albeit at a huge price premium, again memory bandwidth, PCI-e lanes etc on the X79 chipset, all theoritical improvements but sure its fun spending someone else money. Its basically the same reason a titan is better than a 780.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-4770k-haswell-performance,3461-4.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    No it's not. You are comparing benchmarks that are making use of all cores/ threads. Clock for clock haswell is at least 20% faster than sandy. Compare the 4770k and 2700k in that visual studio benchmark and oh look the haswell is 20% faster.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Bloodbath's right. That said, SB-E might be a better investment simply because of multi-core support with next-gen games, but that's still a guess at this point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Serephucus wrote: »
    Bloodbath's right. That said, SB-E might be a better investment simply because of multi-core support with next-gen games, but that's still a guess at this point.

    I doubt it to be honest. I think it's great that there will likely be much improved multi-core support, but I think people are pushing the agenda too much. 8 cores at 1.6ghz which are slower PER CLOCK SPEED by a lot when compared to Intel's newer generations, and OCed systems are upwards of 4ghz easily.

    It's almost better news for Phenoms than FX-8xxxs to be honest in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Serephucus wrote: »
    Bloodbath's right. That said, SB-E might be a better investment simply because of multi-core support with next-gen games, but that's still a guess at this point.

    Given the specs of the PS4 and Xbox1 its a pretty good guess. I have a SB-e that will reach 4.8gh stable on all cores without increasing the voltage, these things overclock like nobody business and all the uber systems are built with them, It all about feeding the titans, why compromise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    The 4770k has 4 extra threads if games start using more than 4. There's not many games using 4 at all at the moment, never mind 6 or more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Hyperthreading... isn't great. Even with synthetic applications that will fully leverage threads, you're only looking at around a 50% improvement. (Which is the same as two physical cores extra, but then you're into SB-E having Hyperthreading too).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Games won't be programmed to utilise 6-8 cores with an even load across all cores. It's not possible. 4 cores max will do the heavy lifting while additional cores may support it at times. A 50% capacity thread would be more than enough when that single thread will have more than twice the power of single threads in next gen consoles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Would you run two titans on 20 PCI-e lanes (16x and a 8x) or 40 lanes (2 x 16x). If he put in another titan later he would be down to PCI-e 2 rather than 3. There is a law of diminishing returns up this level, but to negate the tiny difference is performance is to basically say this type of build is a waste. OP rock on your crazy diamond.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,692 ✭✭✭Danger781


    I'm actually starting to think the OP is a troll


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭finlaycm


    I thought that at the first post, If he is. well done


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭bladesofglory


    Danger781 wrote: »
    I'm actually starting to think the OP is a troll

    The OP isnt a troll, Thanks for the assumption,


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