can I drive in new zealand if banned from driving in ireland

two34

I was caught drink driving a few weeks ago and am thinking of goin to new zealand if I go down, but am wondering can I still use my irish licence out there while working as I am thinking of doin the silage harvest there for 6-8 months

martinr5232

You wont have an irish licence if your done for drink driving.

Im sure you can apply and do a test in new zealand.

Pro Hoc Vice

two34 wrote: »

I was caught drink driving a few weeks ago and am thinking of goin to new zealand if I go down, but am wondering can I still use my irish licence out there while working as I am thinking of doin the silage harvest there for 6-8 months

But you won't have an Irish driving licence to exchange.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2010/en/act/pub/0025/sec0064.html#sec64


“(1) A person in respect of whom a consequential, ancillary or special disqualification order is made stands disqualified in accordance with the order for holding a driving licence, and—

two34

what if i was to hand in my irish licence in new zealand, would i not be handed out a new zealand licence

Pro Hoc Vice

two34 wrote: »

what if i was to hand in my irish licence in new zealand, would i not be handed out a new zealand licence

I don't know but I would assume they will contact the Irish to confirm legit and not banned licence. If they don't do that they are idiots.

seanmacc

two34 wrote: »

what if i was to hand in my irish licence in new zealand, would i not be handed out a new zealand licence

They do not have an exchange treaty as of yet with Ireland. You may get away with driving for 6 months to a year over there on your disqualified Irish licence, after that time you'd be required to apply and do a test for your NZ licence.
If you get into an accident and people start looking to authenticate your Irish licence you may run into trouble.

two34

i would only want to drive for a while until I sort out a licence over there, from what i understand the only place that work with ireland in relation to disqualification is the uk. i believe you can only use your irish licence in new zealand for 3 months regardless disqualified or not, then you have to get a new zealand licence

Marcusm

two34 wrote: »

i would only want to drive for a while until I sort out a licence over there, from what i understand the only place that work with ireland in relation to disqualification is the uk. i believe you can only use your irish licence in new zealand for 3 months regardless disqualified or not, then you have to get a new zealand licence

Do you really believe this? Do you think that there's any government in the world which recognises a licence which has been removed by the issuing country? What there is with the UK is a treaty mutually recognising disqualifications, i.e. if an Irish licence holder is in the UK and commits an offence for which he receives a disqualification, the Irish government will remove the Irish licence. For other countries, the disqualification would only be recognised in the UK.

If your home country disqualifies you, you have no licence and therefore have nothing to drive on in another country. You might have a piece of pink paper or a pink card but it does not entitle you to drive anywhere. You may get away with it but as noted above, you will not be a licensed driver.

two34

but as i have said previously if i hand in my irish 1 before it is disqualified and receive a new zealand 1would that not then be valid

Marcusm

two34 wrote: »

but as i have said previously if i hand in my irish 1 before it is disqualified and receive a new zealand 1would that not then be valid

You're going to avoid appearing for your court case?

two34

i plan on appearing in court on the day

Marcusm

two34 wrote: »

i plan on appearing in court on the day

In which case you're required to produce the licence to the clerk and irrespective of whether you physically have it later, your disqualification can be effected. The licence is merely evidence of your permission to drive, it doesn't have to be destroyed or taken up to mean that it is nothing more than paper.

If what you mean is that you intend on misrepresenting to the NZ Transport Agency that the piece of paper is a valid licence then off you go. I doubt that there'll be many here with the experience to advise you (nor would it be appropriate under the boards charter).

two34

no i dont mean to do that as that would be illegal id imagine but if i was to be in new zealand before i am disqualified and get a new licence would the new zealand licence still be legal

dave1982

Will you even get a work visa with a drink driving conviction?

dave1982

Thought as much

http://www.immigration.govt.nz/opsmanual/35058.htm

convicted at any time of any offence involving violence; or
convicted at any time during the last five years, of an offence (including a traffic offence), involving dangerous driving, driving having consumed excessive alcohol (including drunk driving and driving with a blood or breath alcohol content in excess of a specified limit) or driving having consumed drugs; or

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two34 wrote: »

no i dont mean to do that as that would be illegal id imagine but if i was to be in new zealand before i am disqualified and get a new licence would the new zealand licence still be legal

You mean go to New Zealand before your case, get your licence, go back to Ireland, get disqualified, then go back again?

endacl

My advice fwiw, and its not legal advice, would be to invest in a good bicycle. It'll do you a power of good for the couple of years you're serving a ban. And if the NZ authorities overlook a conviction and you get a visa, they've some lovely cycling roads over there while you're waiting for your learner permit. If you're there for a couple of years there may be time to progress to a restricted permit. Another while and you can apply for a full NZ licence.

I met a couple of lads over there and in Oz trying to pull the same scam. They don't look favourably on it, and it doesn't work. Whatever can be said for our antipodean cousins, they have an admirably low tolerance for bullsh1t. Did you not research any of this before asking the question twice...?

dharn

Looks like it ,it would cost him more than he would make in 6 months

MadsL

Suggest you avoid Drink Driving in NZ

All persons over 0.08% BAC / 400μg/L breath (first and second offenses) - up to 3 months imprisonment and/or up to NZ$4500 fine; loss of licence for six months or more

two34

ya I will get a visa no problem, the only convictions that matter are serious 1s, ie. drugs, assault, serious crimes ect

endacl

two34 wrote: »

ya I will get a visa no problem, the only convictions that matter are serious 1s, ie. drugs, assault, serious crimes ect

In fairness, these days most reasonable people would consider a drink driving conviction to be serious.

Including NZ immigration. Check point 'h'. It was pointed out to you earlier...

http://www.immigration.govt.nz/opsmanual/35058.htm

Cookie_Monster

seanmacc wrote: »

They do not have an exchange treaty as of yet with Ireland. You may get away with driving for 6 months to a year over there on your disqualified Irish licence, after that time you'd be required to apply and do a test for your NZ licence.

they certainly do have have an exchange treaty. I swopped my Irish licence without issue, no test required apart from eye exam.

two34

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

they certainly do have have an exchange treaty. I swopped my Irish licence without issue, no test required apart from eye exam.

im assuming that you weren't disqualified when you swapped it

endacl

two34 wrote: »

im assuming that you weren't disqualified when you swapped it

Couldn't have been. You can't swop a licence you don't hold. If found guilty, and handed a ban, you won't have a licence until its returned to you.