No Revolution in Ireland...

zom

Are we really so pampered that we don't mind what governments are doing with us and rest of the word? Bigger repose if someone start to talk about jelly babies than revolt in Turkey or Brasli?

Brazil protests



http://www.irishexaminer.com/world/crisis-talks-in-brazil-as-protests-escalate-234826.html

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0621/457948-brazil-protests/

http://www.thejournal.ie/brazil-soccer-protests-2-961104-Jun2013/

The Backwards Man

I like the green jelly babies most.

Kylo Ren

Sorry, what's this about jelly babies?

IvySlayer

Things aren't that bad in Ireland.

Mariasofia

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I like the green jelly babies most.

Ill give you all my greens for your reds.:)

caustic 1

mmm black jelly babies, oh no wait that's fruit pastilles.

Nodin

zom wrote: »

Are we really so pampered that we don't mind what governments are doing with us and rest of the word?

Quick answer = yes.

The Backwards Man

Imagine a revolt of the jelly babies, where they all started eating people. It's a wonder no one ever thought to make a horror film like that.

Peregrine

What do we want? Jelly Babies

When do we want it? Now!!

The Backwards Man

Mariasofia wrote: »

Ill give you all my greens for your reds.:)

I like the reds too though, will you take the whites?

Nodin

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Imagine a revolt of the jelly babies, where they all started eating people. It's a wonder no one ever thought to make a horror film like that.

It'd be like "Slugs"...except with jelly babies instead of slugs.

Mariasofia

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I like the reds too though, will you take the whites?

Throw in 2 yellows and you've got yourself a deal!

The Backwards Man

Nodin wrote: »

It'd be like "Slugs"...except with jelly babies instead of slugs.

Ewww. . .:pac:

rolliepoley

IvySlayer wrote: »

Things aren't that bad in Ireland.

Not yet. we have a long way to go, who knows whats going to happen in this country especially with the twats we have running it.

Peregrine

rolliepoley wrote: »

who knows whats going to happen in this country especially with the twats we have running it.

Not you, I can tell you that

Twats eh? Okay tell you what, if we get rid of the twats, who would you suggest lead the country?

Celly Smunt

Revolution?,for what?,revolt against the government we chose to represent us?

AnonoBoy

Something something media manipulation, gas and oil offshore, rights etc., protest, flouride in the water, weak-willed, post-colonist attitude, never get anywhere, sure we'll dance with the girls we have, bondholders, bailouts and the feckin' rain.

Alright, now what's this about jelly babies?

Jimmy Garlic

There must be something in the water here. Irish people have become extremely passive and docile, far more likely to get riled up about meaningless sports than something that actually matters.

Peregrine

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Something something media manipulation, gas and oil offshore, rights etc., protest, flouride in the water, weak-willed, post-colonist attitude, never get anywhere, sure we'll dance with the girls we have, bondholders, bailouts and the feckin' rain.

Don't forget the banks and the buses

dxhound2005

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

There must be something in the water here. Irish people have become extremely passive and docile, far more likely to get riled up about meaningless sports than something that actually matters.

Are you talking about me?

I'm not too keen on jelly babies

Son Of A Vidic

IvySlayer wrote: »

Things aren't that bad in Ireland.

Not that bad my arsé. Try saying that to the parents of the three week old baby that died recently, when an ambulance was sent to the wrong county. That's what happens when you ration and cannibalise frontline services.

Peregrine

bluewolf wrote: »

I'm not too keen on jelly babies

Blasphemy!

AnonoBoy

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

There must be something in the water here. Irish people have become extremely passive and docile, far more likely to get riled up about meaningless sports than something that actually matters.

Yup. It's the flouride that does that if you believe the conspiracy nuts.

That's what The Man wants you to do. Drink the Kool-Aid and play the corporate game man.

darlett

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

What do we want? Jelly Babies

When do we want it? Now!!

Check this shid out!

High energy mother truckers

WoollyRedHat

**** it... now I really want jelly babies.

Peregrine

darlett wrote: »

Check this shid out!

I did that in Junior Cert science :pac: Real messy

The powder is potassium chlorate and it oxidises all the sugar in it

General General

I'm guessing that Folha didn't cover much on Jim Corr's Dublin march for freedom or whatever he called it.

dxhound2005

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Not that bad my arsé. Try saying that to the parents of the three week old baby that died recently, when an ambulance was sent to the wrong county. That's what happens when you ration and cannibalise frontline services.

The way I read it was that unfortunately the baby was already dead (cot death) when the ambulance was called in the early morning hours. And the ambulance arrived in 30 minutes.

zom

pmcmahon wrote: »

Revolution?,for what?,revolt against the government we chose to represent us?

The fact we chose them doesn't give them full and unlimited power over us. I think that all governments should work the way managers work - they should present their business plan while election, and then they should be checked in time periods if they follow it. If they don't, they should be fired and treated the same way as businesses do.

Orim

Does anyone else bite the head off their jelly babies and then laugh maniacally?

Stereomaniac

Unfortunately they are not checked at intervals after they are put into office. I was in New Ross today and Enda Kenny was speaking and my uncle kept going on about how he never did anything he said he would after he was meant to do after he was elected. What can we do?

Mariasofia

Orim wrote: »

Does anyone else bite the head off their jelly babies and then laugh maniacally?

No you sicko



you do the legs first make em suffer ..

For Forks Sake

Orim wrote: »

Does anyone else bite the head off their jelly babies and then laugh maniacally?

No. You need to calm down. Drink this 'untreated' water.

*laughs maniacally*

Orim

For Forks Sake wrote: »

No. You need to calm down. Drink this 'untreated' water.

*laughs maniacally*

What you have failed to realise is that I switched the cups!

MUHAHAHAHAHA

emo72

there will probably be a big revolution in ireland. it usually comes from something that is regarded as insignificant.

like bus fares in brazil

or green spaces in turkey

or a kid selling vegetables in libya that gets disrespected by a government official

or governments putting vat on kids shoes.

its not predictable, thats how governments always miss it

Peregrine

Mariasofia wrote: »

No you sicko



you do the legs first make em suffer ..

This is what I do. I bite their legs off first then make them watch me chew it. Then I skin them alive and then finally jugulate them.

Guy:Incognito

rolliepoley wrote: »

Not yet. we have a long way to go, who knows whats going to happen in this country especially with the twats we have running it.

Sure are we not already fupped ? Remember last year when we were told the atms would stop dispensing cash within days and then it happened? No ,me either. And 18 months ago when they were printing new pound notes for us cos we'd be out of the euro inside 6 months ( either thrown or left) and then that happened? No?

Guy:Incognito

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Not that bad my arsé. Try saying that to the parents of the three week old baby that died recently, when an ambulance was sent to the wrong county. That's what happens when you ration and cannibalise frontline services.

DId that not happen because they were sent to a town in kerry but through misunderstanding ended up going to a town with the same or similar name in cork? Was it actually anything to do with cuts to funding or even related?

Orim

dxhound2005 wrote: »

The way I read it was that unfortunately the baby was already dead (cot death) when the ambulance was called in the early morning hours. And the ambulance arrived in 30 minutes.

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

DId that not happen because they were sent to a town in kerry but through misunderstanding ended up going to a town with the same or similar name in cork? Was it actually anything to do with cuts to funding or even related?

Facts smacts. We're trying to raise a rabble here :mad:

starlit

If the years were reversed and the people in it there would probably be a revolution imminent now!

caustic 1

caustic 1 wrote: »

mmm black jelly babies, oh no wait that's fruit pastilles.

Racist.

KyussBishop

We got ourselves into a mess we can't really vote ourselves out of; no matter what government we pick locally, we can't undo the faults of the Euro and the European monetary/fiscal system.
There are recovery options available to Europe as a whole that can end the crisis fairly quickly (which requires collective unanimous agreement - hence the deadlock), but none to any individual country.

Best we can do is pick a government that understands the full range of options available to Europe, and which can try to create political momentum in that direction (by convincing other governments of the available options).

That's an incredibly tough job for a little country like Ireland (especially considering Germany and such will probably be dead-set against reform), but it's the best hope of a way forward in Europe; awful lack coherence on these issues, among European governments and politicians in general.


The actual economic issues are relatively easy to solve, the remaining issues are almost entirely political ones; those political issues are almost entirely down to ideology as well (economics and politics in many countries, is stuck promoting economic theory, which is just flat-out wrong; both economics as a field of study, and politics in general, are resisting any reform here).

There are a fair number of people/corporations/industries (largely bank/finance related) gaining significant power because of austerity, who are at the fore of resiting any reform to economics (both in academia and in politics); what we have is looking more and more like class warfare from them, against the rest of society, and they are winning by quite a large margin.

dxhound2005

emo72 wrote: »

there will probably be a big revolution in ireland. it usually comes from something that is regarded as insignificant.

like bus fares in brazil

or green spaces in turkey

or a kid selling vegetables in libya that gets disrespected by a government official

or governments putting vat on kids shoes.

its not predictable, thats how governments always miss it

It was very predictable in Ireland at the time of the VAT on shoes proposal. Not that there would be a revolution but that populist TD's who held the balance of power would bring the government down. The same thing happened to Charlie Haughey when his government tried to introduce harsh econmomic measures later the same year. Tony Gregory withdrew his support and the government fell. We had three general elections in the space of 18 months, not revolution but democracy in action. Mortgage interest rates were around 18% back in those times so people had plenty to worry about just like now.

Surely the time for revolution was around 5 years into Bertie Aherns reign when the disastrous policies which we are paying for now were being put in place. Things like the bogus decentralisation proposal, SSIA's and especially the tax concessions to developers to build too many houses. But strangely there was no call for revolution back then when everyones house was going up in "value". And Bertie and the PD's kept getting re-elected.

Now at least the government can try to repair the damage without populist TD's like Keavney and Shortall causing it's downfall with their early campaigns for re-election.

emo72

fine gael/ labour will be brought down at at the local election. they know it, damage limitation is being brought into play by putting back water rates to 2015. we are not that stupid. fianna fail are hoping to suck up support here, this is where i find things most interesting , will the electorate hold firm and condemn them to the faith they also deserve? i believe so. roll on democracy.....

Augmerson

The possibility of getting rid of the FG/Lab just to put FF back in power is sickening. We can't win. I have no faith in any of the parties nor any of the politicians.

emo72

Augmerson wrote: »

The possibility of getting rid of the FG/Lab just to put FF back in power is sickening. We can't win. I have no faith in any of the parties nor any of the politicians.

Have faith.

DEFTLEFTHAND

We don't have it nearly bad enough, we have a democracy and a very generous social welfare system. Nobody is oppressed in the ROI. We're going through a rough patch sure but we'll get through like we always do.

We still have a good standard of living here, food, shelter, access to education.

worded

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

What do we want? Jelly Babies

When do we want it? Now!!

What do we want
A cure for obesity
When do we want it?
After lunch

Augmerson

emo72 wrote: »

Have faith.

There is absolutely no reason to have faith in the political system in this country man. Now I am not saying it's like a dictatorship with no chance of change and its harsh, oppressive and violent but, really in my life time, I don't see change happening.

Orim

worded wrote: »

What do we want
A cure for obesity
When do we want it?
After lunch

What do want?
Time Travel!
When do we want it?
It's irrelevant!