Is Montpelier Hill, D7 a safe area?

Wassermann

Hi guys,
I am moving to Dublin from Dundalk (I am Italian) and I will work from 14.30 until 23.00! I am a little bit worried as I am not familiar with the city centre at night. I am moving to Dublin 7, Montpelier Hill and I have heard it is not the best area to live.
I would get a bus from eBay to the city centre and then the luas from Abbey Str to the stop Museum.
Can somebody help me? Does anyone knows this spot of the city?
Thank you very much.

Patrizia

harry Bailey esq

Montpelier hill and the surrounding areas still have a bit of a problem with street prostitution,it wouldn't be as bad as say ten years ago,but its still there,for yourself as a young woman it might be wise to look at other parts of the city to live before committing to that particular area.smithfield is near by,its also on the luas line and you might find it to be a lot safer.

pabloh999

It's a bit of a dodgy area, o'devaney gardens is kind of a no go tbh.

Lux23

I would try Smithfield or Stoneybatter, Mountpelier Hill is a bit scary and I certainly wouldn't like to walk around there at night.

Wassermann

Thank you guys!
I got the room already as I did not like the others I reviewed. I just hope the best. The apartment is 5 minutes away from luas stop Museum.

athtrasna

Wassermann wrote: »

Thank you guys!
I got the room already as I did not like the others I reviewed. I just hope the best. The apartment is 5 minutes away from luas stop Museum.

Did you pay a deposit already? 5 minutes through a dodgy area is an awful long time. I really wouldn't advise living there

Wassermann

No, not yet. The girl I will share the apt with said she walks back home at night and nothing happened to her so far

JupiterKid

A friend of mine lived just off Montpelier Hill a few years back and she liked it there. Yes, there are some dodgy places close by but IMO Montpelier hill itself is ok. One big advantage is that it's a very central and accessible location - very close to the LUAS red line, Heuston Station, the Phoenix Park and of course the city centre.

BTW if you're going to be working in eBay in Blanchardstown then you won't really need to change the bus to luas - the 39, 38 and 37 and 70 busses all pass through Stoneybatter and its just a short walk from there to Montpelier Hill.

Call me Al

Personally I wouldn't like to live there and I really wouldn't feel safe walking around at night with or without a companion. O'Devaney gardens is scary and bleak enough during the day let alone at 11pm.

Could you move further in towards the city along the North Circular maybe? Or, as another poster suggested, further towards the river Liffey around Smithfield?

I say this as someone who lived down near the flats between the Mater and Temple St hospital for long enough, and never had a moments worry or trouble.

Wassermann

Great to hear!!!!!
I don't really know Stoneybatter, would it be safe to walk at night from there?
Thanks a million

Wassermann

mmm
The thing is, I did not find any other accomodation near the city centre, a good one.

Billy Mays

If people think Montpelier Hill is dodgy or scary they must have lived very sheltered lives. Grand place to live. Close to town, Phoenix Park on your doorstep. Don't know why people are bringing up O'Devaney Gardens either. You don't have to go near O'Devaney walking from the Museum Luas stop to Montpelier Hill

harry Bailey esq

Billy Mays wrote: »

If people think Montpelier Hill is dodgy or scary they must have lived very sheltered lives. Grand place to live. Close to town, Phoenix Park on your doorstep. Don't know why people are bringing up O'Devaney Gardens either. You don't have to go near O'Devaney walking from the Museum Luas stop to Montpelier Hill

the op is a woman,who'll have to walk around there alone at night,prostitution is still an issue there,the residents around there have been campaigning for years to get rid of the kerb crawlers out of the area,as local woman,in somecases schoolgirls in uniform were and still are being accosted,even during daylight hours and propositioned by these scumbags,and anybody that's familiar with the area Will know this well.put it this way i wouldn't be comfortable with my girlfriend/sister/daughter etc walking around there.especially at night.

arybvtcw0eolkf

harry Bailey esq wrote: »

put it this way i wouldn't be comfortable with my girlfriend/sister/daughter etc walking around there.especially at night.

And during the day you've the vermin coming to the CCJ, the place is scrawling with scum.

bobin fudge

I have a mixed opinion on the area, have known it almost 20 years on a daily basis, a lot lot safer now than in the past. As mentioned before most of the prostitution is now gone from the area and there are quite a few police cars and on foot patrolling the area 24 /7

During the day, arbour hill is busy with prison guards, people walking their dogs, and people who live in the area.

It isn't really that much dangerous or dodgy to other areas compared to a few years back

With regards to walking home, is it safe for a woman to walk home late at night on their own in any area? There are taxis, luas, busses etc

Just be vigilante of your surroundings which should go without saying and you will be fine

Marcusm

Rivka Sour Teammate wrote: »

And during the day you've the vermin coming to the CCJ, the place is scrawling with scum.

Bloody solicitors and barristers; definitely wouldn't want to be mixing with them. Or the journalists.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

My gf lives in Montpelier hill and it's a lovely spot, just as nice as my own area in Drumcondra. One thing I will say is that Montpelier Place is a very rough part and I wouldn't ever walk through it

Getting the 46A from Phibsorough over their last week and as we were passing through a load of kids started firing rocks at the bus breaking one of the windows

arybvtcw0eolkf

I took a photo of this poor thing on Montpelier Hill two weeks ago, not two minutes walk from the CCJ and across the road from Army Head Quarters.

Dandelion6

I lived there for two years in the early 2000s and never had any problems. There was far more street prostitution there at the time and I was a young woman. You'll be grand.

Billy Mays

Rivka Sour Teammate wrote: »

I took a photo of this poor thing on Montpelier Hill two weeks ago, not two minutes walk from the CCJ and across the road from Army Head Quarters.

Not Montpelier Hill

arybvtcw0eolkf

Billy Mays wrote: »

Not Montpelier Hill

You're right, Montpelier Gardens.. Beside O'Devaney.

Billy Mays

Rivka Sour Teammate wrote: »

You're right, Montpelier Gardens.. Beside O'Devaney.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Billy Mays wrote: »

Google Earth.

Billy Mays

So going by your logic Findlater Street and Kinahan Street are dodgy areas cos they're near O'Devaney Gardens?

Laneyh

Wassermann wrote: »

Hi guys,
I am moving to Dublin from Dundalk (I am Italian) and I will work from 14.30 until 23.00! I am a little bit worried as I am not familiar with the city centre at night. I am moving to Dublin 7, Montpelier Hill and I have heard it is not the best area to live.
I would get a bus from eBay to the city centre and then the luas from Abbey Str to the stop Museum.
Can somebody help me? Does anyone knows this spot of the city?
Thank you very much.

Patrizia

Hi

I live on Montpelier Hill. It's fine there are two homeless hostels in the area so sometimes you have slightly dodgy characters coming in or out of there but they have never caused any hassle or shown any interest in passers by to be honest.

O'Devaney Gardens isn't great but you would have no reason to walk through there and that borders North Circular Road and Stoneybatter as well as being close to Montpelier Hill.

The neighbours are quite a varied bunch but I don't find it dodgy at all to be fair.
I've lived there for 6 years and never had any hassle.

The street itself is poorly lit so in the dead of winter it can be a bit dark walking along but not particularly scary.

The Gardai patrol regularly.
There are still occasionally street prostitutes working on the corner but actually they tend to be on Arbor Hill rather than Montpelier Hill and again will have absolutely zero interest in you.

If you're definitely moving there and have any questions feel free to send me a private message.

You might even be moving into my apartment block

Laneyh

Call me Al wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't like to live there and I really wouldn't feel safe walking around at night with or without a companion. O'Devaney gardens is scary and bleak enough during the day let alone at 11pm.

Could you move further in towards the city along the North Circular maybe? Or, as another poster suggested, further towards the river Liffey around Smithfield?

I say this as someone who lived down near the flats between the Mater and Temple St hospital for long enough, and never had a moments worry or trouble.

on a point of information you would have no reason at all to ever go near O'Devaney Gardens if living on Montpelier Hill.

I should know as I live there.

In fact O'Devaney Gardens backs onto Stoneybatter so you're at as much risk there as Montpelier Hill applying your rationale.

Certainly there are some problems in O'Devaney but at the same time I have walked through there in tennis gear and not gotten hassle from any of the locals. So, like most parts of Dublin it's a mixed bag. My neighbours include a middle class gay couple , a green party TD, an elderly gent who washes the footpath outside his house every day, some old school true blue Dubs, some new Irish, some migrant workers and some young professionals.

It's honestly fine and not massively different to Smithfield or Stoneybatter

arybvtcw0eolkf

Only good thing about the kip is its got the Manor Takeaway in Prussia St (expensive but fresh and tasty) and Nemasta Indian take away in Smithfield.. Avoid T.Mays shop unless you like to drink your take out cider in a brown bag.

Laneyh

Rivka Sour Teammate wrote: »

Only good thing about the kip is its got the Manor Takeaway in Prussia St (expensive but fresh and tasty) and Nemasta Indian take away in Smithfield.. Avoid T.Mays shop unless you like to drink your take out cider in a brown bag.

In all reality how likely is an Italian woman who will be working 14.30 - 23:00 be basing her decision on where to live on a ramshackle off license ?
Mays has been closed for ages anyway and when it was open was overpriced so best avoided by everyone really.

Nancy Hands and Ryans on Parkgate St are both decent pubs with good food.
Junos is a nice cafe / bar, The Phoenix Park hotel have a reasonably good restaurant.
The Aisling hotel do a good reasonably priced carvery lunch, even The Galway Hooker bar in Heuston is pretty ok

Seven Social and Wuff have great food and ambience

Lilliput Stores is a lovely deli. The cafe in the museum is also very good.

The Joinery and Liliput Press have some cool events if you're more arty farty

Dice bar is great, Walshes and Mulligans in Stoneybatter are good too

A new bar called Bigs has opened on Ellis Quay and so far it looks like it's going to be a good live music venue

Superquinn and Tesco are both a short walk away and there is a Spar plus a Londis less than 5 minutes walk away

There are loads of take aways that deliver to the area including the excellent Camile based in Phibsboro.

I'm a fan of Namaste India too

Anywhere central and reasonably populated is going to have its issues but it's not especially kippy in my opinion

Billy Mays

Rivka Sour Teammate wrote: »

Only good thing about the kip is its got the Manor Takeaway in Prussia St (expensive but fresh and tasty) and Nemasta Indian take away in Smithfield.. Avoid T.Mays shop unless you like to drink your take out cider in a brown bag.

This post and the above response from Laneyh demonstrates that you really haven't a clue what you're talking about. To claim that the only good thing about the area are two take aways and then mentioning an off license that has been closed for well over a year is laughable. Have you ever even been in any of the establishments Laneyh mentions above? You're coming across as a massive snob here to be honest with you.

Laneyh

Billy Mays wrote: »

This post and the above response from Laneyh demonstrates that you really haven't a clue what you're talking about. To claim that the only good thing about the area are two take aways and then mentioning an off license that has been closed for well over a year is laughable. Have you ever even been in any of the establishments Laneyh mentions above? You're coming across as a massive snob here to be honest with you.

I'm not even interested in challenging the individual posts, I'm just fed up of the constant negativity on here.
Most times that someone asks about an area its because they have some idea that it might be a bit rough around the edges.
(I've not seen too many posts asking what Foxrock is like to live in)

Naturally that is going to trigger mixed response depending on whether people have good or bad experiences there personally.

However, if people are going to just trot out blanket statements that don't offer much insight into the area or practical advice it renders these threads useless.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but keeping it relevant would be good.

The advice I would give anyone thinking of moving anywhere is to go there at night time , walk around and see whether they feel comfortable.
Call into the Garda station and ask them whether you should have any concerns. Google the place name and see what stories crop up
After that just go with your gut.

I'm also glad I'm not from O'Devaney Gardens and reading this thread it would appear that they're automatically criminalized simply for where they reside.

reprazant

It was pretty obvious that Makikomi didn't know what he was talking about when he posted the picture above tbf.

arybvtcw0eolkf

reprazant wrote: »

It was pretty obvious that Makikomi didn't know what he was talking about when he posted the picture above tbf.

I don't get you?.

Look for a transient person the area is mostly ok, come, go and mind your own business and just get on with things.

Outside of that the area is rough, pretty bloody rough. I spend most of my day, and some evenings in the area, I have done for the last 29yrs..

T.Mays is closed?, few will have shed any tears ~ Billy May might have

OP best of luck, you should be fine.. But my personal opinion is that the area is a dive.

gazzer

Best days of my life where spent living in O'Devaney. I lived there from when I was 4 until I was 21. Had fantastic neighbours and friends. It is sad to see what has become of the place.

Neeson

Do the prostitutes work all day or certain hours?

Dord

If you are infact moving to the area, you should check out Little Italy (http://littleitalyltd.com/) in nearby Smithfield.

bobin fudge

Neeson wrote: »

Do the prostitutes work all day or certain hours?

From casual observations from living in the area in the past, could be anytime during the day, as already said, not that common a sight as it used to be. See the odd one or maybe 2 walking about during the day and up to around 9pmish

Police have done a great job and moving them over the years now, so its not really a concern these days

Neeson

How can you tell them apart from other citizens who are not looking for sexual things? From what they wear or do you observe them walking up and down the same bit of path?

ooter

my advice would be to walk up parkgate street if it's dark when you get off the luas at the museum and turn right on to infirmary road and then right on to montpelier hill.
if it's bright you can turn right at the millenium pub up the hill and then left on to montpelier hill but at night that end can be very quiet,much better to go the other way in my opinion.

Neeson

ooter wrote: »

if it's bright you can turn right at the millenium pub up the hill and then left on to montpelier hill but at night that end can be very quiet,much better to go the other way in my opinion.

So there would be more women found if you turn left at the millennium pub? What street is this?

liffeylite

Dord wrote: »

If you are infact moving to the area, you should check out Little Italy (http://littleitalyltd.com/) in nearby Smithfield.

What a great place! never knew about this store.

Thanks for posting!

Dandelion6

Neeson wrote: »

How can you tell them apart from other citizens who are not looking for sexual things? From what they wear or do you observe them walking up and down the same bit of path?

They don't dress any differently from anyone else. You can distinguish the non-working women because they're the ones walking very quickly through the area with their head down and going out of their way not to make eye contact.

irishgirl19

Get the 39 bus from ebay to blackhall place its 2 min walk from meuseum luas stop

January

Neeson please stop fishing for information about prostitutes.

Sunnyisland

January wrote: »

Neeson please stop fishing for information about prostitutes.

:D:D:D:D:D

bobin fudge

lol

clueless999

Hi All,

It's been 4 years from the last post here & I would like to check out some updated opinion on Arbour Hill. I am new to Ireland & looking to buy on St Bricins Park - it is opposite some development & near a new block of council house. Have you any idea if it is safe e.g. female walking home alone at 9pm from the Luas, break-in issue, car damage, raising kids, etc.

I am not looking for the perfect or poshest neighborhood, as long as it doesn't affect residents' safety I am fine (i.e. if I will not be mugged or my car window not smashed). Based on what I have read so far the area seems alright. Appreciate your insight here.

Thank you.

irishgirl19

clueless999 wrote:

It's been 4 years from the last post here & I would like to check out some updated opinion on Arbour Hill. I am new to Ireland & looking to buy on St Bricins Park - it is opposite some development & near a new block of council house. Have you any idea if it is safe e.g. female walking home alone at 9pm from the Luas, break-in issue, car damage, raising kids, etc.

Are you aware that arbour hill houses a prison for sex offenders?

Donal55

irishgirl19 wrote: »

Are you aware that arbour hill houses a prison for sex offenders?

Between the Prison, the Army barracks, and the new court theres probably more members of the security services based in that location than any other area in the country.

Billy Mays

irishgirl19 wrote: »

Are you aware that arbour hill houses a prison for sex offenders?

I don't think she's looking to move into the prison

Spanish Eyes

This should be in the up and coming areas of Dublin thread.

OP check the place out night and day. It is so close to the city it sounds wonderful, but maybe for a reason. I dunno. It could be like Foxrock for all I know.

You have to do a bit of legwork yourself, but I think it's ok. The flats in O Devaney Gardens are either being refurbished or flattened I don't know.

The location for getting to the city is ace.

But there could be other issues. It is close to Stoneybatter, the hipster paradise lol.

Someone else might know more. But location wise it is great for sure. And will be on the map in five years as a great place to live, maybe just not right now.

So now is the time to buy!

dsmythy

clueless999 wrote: »

Hi All,

It's been 4 years from the last post here & I would like to check out some updated opinion on Arbour Hill. I am new to Ireland & looking to buy on St Bricins Park - it is opposite some development & near a new block of council house. Have you any idea if it is safe e.g. female walking home alone at 9pm from the Luas, break-in issue, car damage, raising kids, etc.

I am not looking for the perfect or poshest neighborhood, as long as it doesn't affect residents' safety I am fine (i.e. if I will not be mugged or my car window not smashed). Based on what I have read so far the area seems alright. Appreciate your insight here.

Thank you.

Parked my car along the street outside the estate day and overnight on and off for 9 months and never had an issue with it nor seen other car's targeted. This surprised me at times as you do see odd characters and roaming kids a lot in the area. But never have I or my partner felt unduly unsafe. Only two incidents of notes anecdotally was a guy who stood at the entrance to that estate in the dark a few nights in a row with his bag in a tree for reasons unknown. He eventually stopped appearing. Then of course my partner's experienced with an over eager man up the road vigorously stroking himself in her direction. But more peculiarities than moments of danger. You still get a small bit of prostitution activity but nothing like times gone past. That estate seems a quiet and settled little corner of the city. Depends who moves into that housing block being redone I guess. Good luck!