Rottweiler running free in residential area

Bloody hell! I'm just back from getting my morning paper. I went over to the shop and what do I see but a huge Rottweiler on the path outside a house. I had bumped into the thing before but he was in their garden that time which was scary enough.

I just can't believe someone would let a dangerous dog run free in a residential area where there are kids and elderly. It beggars belief.

Now before anyone says anything I absolutely love dogs. This dog is extremely aggressive and barking at anyone that simply walks by on a public road. I got attacked by two medium sized dogs before outside an itinerant camping site so God knows what kind of damage this thing would do!

I took a on my smartphone (it was lashing rain so they ain't the best). It's fuzzy because I didn't have the liathroidi to get closer! Most shocking was the Garda car that passed me while I was taking the photos. They did absolutely nothing.

I'm raging that I was put in fear of injury while simply getting a few things at the local shop. How can people be so so stupid and careless?

Why do people get these things? What's wrong with a cute terrier? Is there anything I can do to prevent some poor sap getting mauled when this thing gets angry enough? Preferably anonymously or they'll have two of them over there waiting for me the next morning!

/vent

fatmammycat

While I agree the dog should not be out running loose- indeed no dog should be out running loose, there is no much wrong with your post I can't take it seriously.
It looks like a rotty, in what way is it 'dangerous' ? A dog barking- does not equal vicious. Why they chose one breed over another is hardly your business. Cute terriers can be quite aggressive. And why would the dog get 'angry' or 'maul' someone?

Seriously, if you're that worried about the dog, approach the people next time you see them and tell them the dog got loose and you have reported it to the dog warden- which I assume you did, rather that come straight onto and animal/pet forum.

Will I Amnt

Had 2 of them running free around the estate one morning when going to work. They escaped from a back garden, a scary site to encounter when you're on your own.

I haven't reported it. I was looking for advice before I did anything serious. That's why I "came straight on animal/pet forum".

fatmammycat

Deleted User wrote: »

I haven't reported it. I was looking for advice before I did anything serious. That's why I "came straight on animal/pet forum".

Well then, reporting it would be your best option.

andreac

This IS a joke right? What's dangerous about him?

brightspark

It's illegal to have Rottweilers loose

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1998/en/si/0442.html

Report them before a child gets hurt!

andreac

andreac wrote: »

This IS a joke right? What's dangerous about him?

Oh I don't know...the fact that he's a Rottweiler and classified as a "dangerous dog" by statutory legislation?

Will I Amnt

andreac wrote: »

This IS a joke right? What's dangerous about him?

Just because yours/your friends is a big cuddly dote doesn't mean this is.

fatmammycat

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh I don't know...the fact that he's a Rottweiler and classified as a "dangerous dog" by statutory legislation?

Are they? I though they were restricted breed.

fatmammycat

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Just because yours/your friends is a big cuddly dote doesn't mean this is.

No, but just because a dog barks does not make him dangerous or vicious.

looksee

Having had a rottweiler lunge at me and make enough of an attempt to bite me that he left bruises and scars on my leg - I was very pregnant at the time and not very nimble - I am nervous of rottweilers. Fortunately he was partially restrained though in a public place and unsupervised.

Hooked

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I haven't reported it. I was looking for advice before I did anything serious. That's why I "came straight on animal/pet forum".

If it were me, and the dog was deliberately let out as opposed to getting loose this once... I'd make myself the biggest pain in the dog wardens backside.

It's just not good enough folks. If a dog that size turned on a child or other small dog (being walked on lead) the papers would have a field day. This, sadly, is some people's idea of 'exercising' a dog.

Report the owner, not the breed. This is not a loose 'Rottie' problem. This is a loose dog/irresonsible owner problem.

If you own a dog. You should be responsible enough not to have it out off lead (and out of your control, physical or verbal) where kids and small pets are present. At the beach, the park or in a busy housing estate. End of!

andreac

No such thing as dangerous dogs in Ireland. It's restricted breeds, very different.

Quality

The fact the Owner is irresponsible enough to let the restricted breed dog roam really doesn't help this situation.

Call the warden, the owner needs to take responsibility and ensure that their dog is not a threat.

brightspark

andreac wrote: »

No such thing as dangerous dogs in Ireland. It's restricted breeds, very different.

But those breeds must be muzzled and on a leash in public places!

fatmammycat

Hooked wrote: »

If it were me, and the dog was deliberately let out as opposed to getting loose this once... I'd make myself the biggest pain in the dog wardens backside.

It's just not good enough folks. If a dog that size turned on a child or other small dog (being walked on lead) the papers would have a field day. This, sadly, is some people's idea of 'exercising' a dog.

Report the owner, not the breed. This is not a loose 'Rottie' problem. This is a loose dog/irresonsible owner problem.

If you own a dog. You should be responsible enough not to have it out off lead (and out of your control, physical or verbal) where kids and small pets are present. At the beach, the park or in a busy housing estate. End of!

That's pretty much what I'm getting at, this is a loose dog problem, report it to the warden. Why bring terriers and what not into it?

Will I Amnt

fatmammycat wrote: »

No, but just because a dog barks does not make him dangerous or vicious.

It's intimidating at the very least. Nobody should have to feel intimidated walking the street.

fatmammycat

brightspark wrote: »

But those breeds must be muzzled and on a leash in public places!

Yes, we know that, that's the law, it still does not make them 'dangerous.' So the OP should contact the warden, not ponder why the owners don't have a terrier or engage in whataboutery.

fatmammycat

Will I Amnt wrote: »

It's intimidating at the very least. Nobody should have to feel intimidated walking the street.

Indeed, no one disputes that.

andreac

Yes they should. The dog shouldn't be out loose. But just because a dog barks doesn't mean it's aggressive.

Quality

Will I Amnt wrote: »

It's intimidating at the very least. Nobody should have to feel intimidated walking the street.

Yes these dogs have a bad name for a reason. They are restricted for a reason.

bluecherry74

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Just because yours/your friends is a big cuddly dote doesn't mean this is.

The same could be said for a "cute terrier"!

knucklehead6

Is the dog staying at this one property? Or is he wandering the street ? If he's at the one property that's possibly his home. My dogs bark if someone comes into the driveway. It's their way if saying this is my house, and I'm watching you, I might want to go out and play with you, or lick you or something, but i can see you.

fatmammycat

Quality wrote: »

Yes these dogs have a bad name for a reason. They are restricted for a reason.

Poppycock, the restricted breed legislation is the most arbituary piece of kneejerk nonsense I've ever encountered. I think you'll find the reason these dogs are restricted and have a bad name has little to do with the dogs at all.

looksee

bluecherry74 wrote: »

The same could be said for a "cute terrier"!

But if a cute terrier (and yes they can be snappy) is having a go at your ankles a swift kick would have an effect, meanwhile something as big as a rottweiler would have you flat on your back and a mouthful of throat.

andreac

Quality wrote: »

Yes these dogs have a bad name for a reason. They are restricted for a reason.

Oh dear. Pathetic. You obv don't have a clue about restricted breeds then.

knucklehead6

Quality wrote: »

Yes these dogs have a bad name for a reason. They are restricted for a reason.

Two words. Bad owners.

He was outside the owner's gate when I first encountered it. When I went back to take a photo I saw him coming out of someone's elses garden (they have no front wall to their garden).

fatmammycat

I'd actually be all for a restricted owner legislation, rather than blame entire breeds for the actions of some eegits.

SpaceTime

fatmammycat wrote: »

Indeed, no one disputes that.

Actually, loads of people do as they let their dogs roam around.

I was almost knocked into traffic because a dog bit my leg while cycling. They are a serious risk to people.

I would have no qualms about sueing the owner if I had been injured either!

fatmammycat

looksee wrote: »

But if a cute terrier (and yes they can be snappy) is having a go at your ankles a swift kick would have an effect, meanwhile something as big as a rottweiler would have you flat on your back and a mouthful of throat.

We should tell that to the family who lost a baby to a JR last year. Or those children attacked by huskies and mals. or to EGAR who was hospitalised by a labrador.

Restricted or dangerous who cares? **** the semantics. They're horrible looking, scary things. Let's be frank here. They're used as security and to intimidate.

fatmammycat

SpaceTime wrote: »

Actually, loads of people do as they let their dogs roam around.

I was almost knocked into traffic because a dog bit my leg while cycling. They are a serious risk to people.

I mean no one here disputes it, I am fully aware how many irresponsible owners are out there, again, I say report to the dog warden. What I dislike it labeling of breeds as 'dangerous' and high drama.

Will I Amnt

bluecherry74 wrote: »

The same could be said for a "cute terrier"!

What would you rather be run over by.
A child on a tricycle or a HGV?

Silly comparison.

fatmammycat

Deleted User wrote: »

Restricted or dangerous who cares? **** the semantics. They're horrible looking, scary things. Let's be frank here. They're used as security and to intimidate.

It's not semantics, if your personal fear of a large dog. They're used as security, so what? Biddable dogs are often used for various jobs. They are also used as therapy dogs, show dogs, pets and agilty.

knucklehead6

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Restricted or dangerous who cares? **** the semantics. They're horrible looking, scary things. Let's be frank here. They're used as security and to intimidate.

By bad owners.

Labs were originally bred to help haul in fishing nets on the Labrador coast.

German Sheppards were bred as..... Well I'll leave that to your imagination. It can't be that difficult to work out.

Rotties were originally bred to herd livestock.

fatmammycat

Will I Amnt wrote: »

What would you rather be run over by.
A child on a tricycle or a HGV?

Silly comparison.

It's really not, a dangerous dog is one who attacks people. Has this dog attacked a person?

Quality

andreac wrote: »

Oh dear. Pathetic. You obv don't have a clue about restricted breeds then.

Pathetic, I think your onesided view of these dogs is pathetic.

An uncontrolled unmuzzled Rottweiler dog In public is illegal. FACT

Obviously this law is in place because of past incidents where this BREED (not all dogs) but this BREED has history of being violent and unstable.






Any responsible adult and owner of a restricted breed can surely see that?


I have had very positive experience with restricted breeds. Unfortunately not for this young girl.

http://www.herald.ie/news/carol-singer-11-in-hospital-after-savage-attack-by-rottweiler-27997431.html

fatmammycat

knucklehead6 wrote: »

By bad owners.

Labs were originally bred to help haul in fishing nets on the Labrador coast.

German Sheppards were bred as..... Well I'll leave that to your imagination. It can't be that difficult to work out.

Rotties were originally bred to herd livestock.

Most rotties I know, and I know a few, are some of the easiest going placid dogs ever. It's a shame that some owners are so hell bent on ruining the public perception of the breed, but that's people for you.

fatmammycat

"Obviously this law is in place because of past incidents where this BREED (not all dogs) but this BREED has history of being violent and unstable."

Is there any evidence for this? A link perhaps?

fatmammycat

Quality wrote: »

Pathetic, I think your onesided view of these dogs is pathetic.

An uncontrolled unmuzzled Rottweiler dog In public is illegal. FACT

Obviously this law is in place because of past incidents where this BREED (not all dogs) but this BREED has history of being violent and unstable.






Any responsible adult and owner of a restricted breed can surely see that?


I have had very positive experience with restricted breeds. Unfortunately not for this young girl.

http://www.herald.ie/news/carol-singer-11-in-hospital-after-savage-attack-by-rottweiler-27997431.html

Again, we could find any number of children/people attacked by various breeds, in the papers.

I'm planning on talking to the owner later. I predict the old favourite "ah sure he won't do anything to ya".

Mr.Fred

I'd be ringing the dog warden to get it sorted asap. This dog may be friendliest dog in the world(doubtful) but he might not be.

I'd be ringing the warden more for the owners sake because if this dog got a hold of one of my kids my next call would be to the owner and it wouldn't be a friendly one.

It's early on Sat morning so he probably doesn't even realize he's out.

Synyster Shadow

If a man gets locked up for a severe crime should I fear every man. The restricted breed list is just to make things safe and I think jack Russell's should be on it as precaution (there are some that are lovely some that aren't same with all breeds)

Mr.Fred

Synyster Shadow wrote: »

If a man gets locked up for a severe crime should I fear every man.

That makes perfect sense :rolleyes:

Quality

fatmammycat wrote: »

Again, we could find any number of children/people attacked by various breeds, in the papers.

You are missing the fact that its illegal for this dog to be outside, roaming, unmuzzled and uncontrolled.

Why is it so hard to get that into your heads?

This dog is a potential threat.

It's illegal.

The op felt threatened.

This dog could have killer instinct.

Would u allow your child approach an unattended unmuzzled roaming rottie?

fatmammycat

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm planning on talking to the owner later. I predict the old favourite "ah sure he won't do anything to ya".

Remind him of the law then, if he's that stubborn. Look, I get it that you got a fright, and this dog should not be loose, period. But no dog should be out causing problems for people, be it taking over footpaths, pooing every where, tearing open bins OR intimidating people. But try not to tar and entire breed when facing the actions of a few.

knucklehead6

fatmammycat wrote: »

Most rotties I know, and I know a few, are some of the easiest going placid dogs ever. It's a shame that some owners are so hell bent on ruining the public perception of the breed, but that's people for you.

My trainer has a rottie. And she is the most gorgeous thing ever. My neighbours were terrified the first time they saw her (because of the rep) now I get plagued with "when is susie coming out again?" questions!!

fatmammycat

Quality wrote: »

You are missing the fact that its illegal for this dog to be outside, roaming, unmuzzled and uncontrolled.

Why is it so hard to get that into your heads?

This dog is a potential threat.

It's illegal.

The op felt threatened.

This dog could have killer instinct.

Would u allow your child approach an unattended unmuzzled roaming rottie?

Please stop with the dramatics, as I have stated more than once, I am aware of the law and I agree people should abide by it, what I object to is the blanket condemnation of an entire breed.

Synyster Shadow

Mr.Fred wrote: »

That makes perfect sense :rolleyes:

So does sayin every dog you meet on the list is dangerous. It's how they are brought up. I have a restricted breed and a 10 week old baby and I don't fear for his life when the dogs in the house (obviously never unsupervised) as he was brought up with kids and baby's