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Do all Android phones freeze?

  • 21-06-2013 05:58PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭


    Hi,

    I use a Huawei Ascend G300 and my son uses a Samsung Galaxy S Duos.

    We are also users of Apple ipod touch around the house and the Apple ipad 2.

    Our two android phones are constantly freezing and glitching. I even deleted most of my apps to free up lots of space but still freeing seems to be the norm. On the other hand we never ever see freezing on the apple devices.

    Can someone please explain am i dong something wrong on the android devices or is this normal for android?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    IrishHomer wrote: »
    Hi,

    I use a Huawei Ascend G300 and my son uses a Samsung Galaxy S Duos.

    We are also users of Apple ipod touch around the house and the Apple ipad 2.

    Our two android phones are constantly freezing and glitching. I even deleted most of my apps to free up lots of space but still freeing seems to be the norm. On the other hand we never ever see freezing on the apple devices.

    Can someone please explain am i dong something wrong on the android devices or is this normal for android?

    Lower end Android phones will struggle with some apps, you probably got both your phones and a bit of change for the same price as the ipad 2, spend 400 euro on an android device and you will have comparable performance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭IrishHomer


    Lower end Android phones will struggle with some apps, you probably got both your phones and a bit of change for the same price as the ipad 2, spend 400 euro on an android device and you will have comparable performance.
    Thanks thats good to know, i am actually planning on buying a better quality android phone but i wanted to check 1st if glitching and freezing would improve :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    IrishHomer wrote: »
    Thanks thats good to know, i am actually planning on buying a better quality android phone but i wanted to check 1st if glitching and freezing would improve :)

    Are there any particular apps that cause problems, the G300 was always held up as a bit of a star for the budget price. Shame they aren't doing the job for you.

    My wife had a Sony Walkman live phone which is fairly choppy and slow, although it works fairly well on most apps, she now has my old Galaxy S2 which rarely stalls and I have an S4 which, so far, I haven't had any problems with (only got it with upgrade last week though so early days).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,152 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    You pay for what you get very simply.

    If your paying for pittance the device doesnt have the hardware to handle same as a low end laptop.

    Phones with decent performance would be the likes of the Nexus Range, The higher end Samsungs 3/4 HTC One X / One etc.


    These are premium phones. You simply cannot compare the phones you have currently to the likes of an iphone because they are half the price.

    To answer no android isnt glitchy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭irishpancake


    IrishHomer wrote: »
    Hi,

    I use a Huawei Ascend G300 and my son uses a Samsung Galaxy S Duos.

    We are also users of Apple ipod touch around the house and the Apple ipad 2.

    Our two android phones are constantly freezing and glitching. I even deleted most of my apps to free up lots of space but still freeing seems to be the norm. On the other hand we never ever see freezing on the apple devices.

    Can someone please explain am i dong something wrong on the android devices or is this normal for android?

    Can I just ask if you are on the Stock Android which came with the phone? Or have you put a custom ROM on?

    There is a g300 thread on here, and a Modaco Forum dedicated to the G300.....

    my wife has one, and she has Stock+ ROM on, it flies, especially using the Link2int hack, which allows you to use the Internal 2GB SD fror Apps exclusively, allowing more space on the external SD for everything else, music, pics, games, etc.

    As far as I know, she has no particular problem with freezing, etc.

    It depends what you use your phone for I suppose, if you are a heavy gamer, you will probably need a higher powered model, as this is singlre-core, and has just 512 RAM.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭IrishHomer


    Can I just ask if you are on the Stock Android which came with the phone? Or have you put a custom ROM on?

    There is a g300 thread on here, and a Modaco Forum dedicated to the G300.....

    my wife has one, and she has Stock+ ROM on, it flies, especially using the Link2int hack, which allows you to use the Internal 2GB SD fror Apps exclusively, allowing more space on the external SD for everything else, music, pics, games, etc.

    As far as I know, she has no particular problem with freezing, etc.

    It depends what you use your phone for I suppose, if you are a heavy gamer, you will probably need a higher powered model, as this is singlre-core, and has just 512 RAM.

    I never changed anything ion the phone but I was aware to that thread thanks.

    I think ill give that option a go nothing to lose :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,329 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    No freezes with the Nexus 4 and been using since launch (6+ months).
    From what I have seen with android devices it is either low memory and/or a dodgy app which will cause a freeze.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭irishpancake


    No freezes with the Nexus 4 and been using since launch (6+ months).
    From what I have seen with android devices it is either low memory and/or a dodgy app which will cause a freeze.

    Reality check needed Gran.....

    Nexus 4 vs G300....apples vs oranges...€300+ vs €79

    Nexus-4 vs Huawei Ascend G300

    Really, the only thing in common is the Android Operating System.

    It is not really a fair comparison.


  • Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Reality check needed Gran.....

    Nexus 4 vs G300....apples vs oranges...€300+ vs €79

    Nexus-4 vs Huawei Ascend G300

    Really, the only thing in common is the Android Operating System.

    It is not really a fair comparison.

    The OP asked if all Androids freeze. Gran was giving an example of one that doesn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,329 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Reality check needed Gran.....

    Nexus 4 vs G300....apples vs oranges...€300+ vs €79

    Nexus-4 vs Huawei Ascend G300

    Really, the only thing in common is the Android Operating System.

    It is not really a fair comparison.

    The OP asked do all android phones freeze.
    This is the question I answered.

    The OP also inquired whether more expensive android phones are less likely to crash.

    Might be best to swap the reality check with a literacy test.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭irishpancake


    The OP asked if all Androids freeze. Gran was giving an example of one that doesn't.

    I think that's kinda pedantic Ari....:confused:

    he also gave an example of the phones he and his son have.

    Telling him a Nexus doesn't freeze is hardly helpful to him?? Given that he doesn't have one.

    I was just saying it is unfair to compare the Nexus with the G300. I gave information showing how it is unfair to compare, that's all.

    And, my wife has a G300 which doesn't freeze, so it depends on what ROM you have and on how you use the phone.

    On the other hand, I have a Sammy S3 which is a freezer to beat all freezers, in my experience....

    and as soon as I can, I will be rid.....maybe a Nexus 4??

    I hear it don't freeze!! :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,329 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    OP was also comparing reliability of android devices to apple devices, hence it is only fair to compare to similar spec and why I used the Nexus 4 example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭irishpancake


    The OP asked do all android phones freeze.
    This is the question I answered.

    The OP also inquired whether more expensive android phones are less likely to crash.

    Might be best to swap the reality check with a literacy test.

    Why the attitude??

    I think it's great you have a Nexus 4 which doesn't freeze, but it is not really helpful to the OP, as you can see from his response to my earlier post, which did attempt to help with the phone he actually has, and he thanked me for it.

    I merely drew attention to the fact that there are Androids, and there are Androids....and the comparison shows all are not equal.

    I intended no offence to you at all, so I am at a loss to understand your post, especially a little snide ad hominem regarding my reading ability....:confused:

    unnecessary and not fair...

    I did nothing to deserve it.

    I won't respond in kind, although one is tempted. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭irishpancake


    IrishHomer wrote: »
    I never changed anything ion the phone but I was aware to that thread thanks.

    I think ill give that option a go nothing to lose :)

    You are welcome.

    If you need any assistance, you can ask here, or PM, if I can help I will.

    My android experience goes back to the ZTE Blade [aka Orange San Francisco], which was something like the G300, CPU and memory-wise, yet there were ROM's developed, right up to ICS, which ran quite well and smoothly.

    The XDA and Modaco communities are extremely helpful, generally no smart asses.......

    they get short shift there, as the ppl on the forums are Android enthusiasts, who try to get the max out of limited resources, so people don't have to shell out big money for over-priced labels.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,329 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Why the attitude??

    I think it's great you have a Nexus 4 which doesn't freeze, but it is not really helpful to the OP, as you can see from his response to my earlier post, which did attempt to help with the phone he actually has, and he thanked me for it.

    I merely drew attention to the fact that there are Androids, and there are Androids....and the comparison shows all are not equal.

    I intended no offence to you at all, so I am at a loss to understand your post, especially a little snide ad hominem regarding my reading ability....:confused:

    unnecessary and not fair...

    I did nothing to deserve it.

    I won't respond in kind, although one is tempted. :(

    You stated snidely I needed a reality check when you clearly had not read the thread content nor the thread title. It looks like I'm not the only person who noticed it either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Hub D15


    Android phones are probably the best on the market but huge variation from awful to super. Samsung Galaxy S2 S3 and S4 are all excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭irishpancake


    You stated snidely I needed a reality check when you clearly had not read the thread content nor the thread title. It looks like I'm not the only person who noticed it either.


    That is just silly Gran....

    I didn't intend the term "reality check" in any offensive way whatsoever....you chose to take offence to it, in a childish and immature fashion.

    There was no rancour intended at all, you will just have to take my word for that. It's up to you.

    I have no idea why you felt the need to attack me, apart from you misunderstanding of the phrase "reality check", in the context of that post, and previous helpful post, acknowledged by the OP.

    I was trying to be helpful to the OP, he was grateful for my advice, and said so.

    You say I had not read either the thread content nor the title, which I suppose is an advance on questioning my literacy in an ad hominem, but equally wrong and petty.

    I followed the thread, proffered advice, which the OP thanked me for, prior to your Nexus 4 post.

    The only other person who responded as you did was Aristotle. He is also entitled to his POV

    I think your attitude is despicable, and not becoming for a Mod.

    You should not belittle or demean posters who are simply trying to help others out, which I thought was the purpose of this Board.

    So, you can take a hike.


  • Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You said it was unfair for Gran to compare the nexus 4 to the g300, when in fact the only person in this thread who has compared these two phones is you. You clearly misinterpreted Grans post and are trying to save face with long rants since then rather than just acknowledging that you were in the wrong for asking Gran to take a reality check.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭irishpancake


    You said it was unfair for Gran to compare the nexus 4 to the g300, when in fact the only person in this thread who has compared these two phones is you. You clearly misinterpreted Grans post and are trying to save face with long rants since then rather than just acknowledging that you were in the wrong for asking Gran to take a reality check.

    Listen Ari, with all due respect, you are completely wrong, but you are entitled to your opinion.

    The OP actually compared his Androids with Apple devices they have.....

    another poster used Sony Walkman, Galaxy S2 and S4 [Dozen Wicked Words]....

    another [listermint] compared Nexus, and higher end Samsungs 3/4 HTC One X / One etc......

    all prior to my comparison post :confused:

    perhaps you too should read the thread??

    I said "reality check"....

    and apparently it pushes some button in Gran, which causes a reaction like we have had....

    no one else is rushing to defend his over-reaction except you.

    So you too should take that hike with Gran, I'm done here.....

    you guys sure know how to use a hammer to crack a very small nut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    All phones can freeze at some point. even iphones.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    If you want a good android phone without spending too much, get a Galaxy s2. You can get them from adverts.ie for under 200.

    I picked up a secondhand one and installed cyanogenmod and it runs everything i throw at it. It's a great phone.

    If you want to spend more, the s3, s4 and nexus4 are great phones by all accounts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,053 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    All phones can freeze at some point. even iphones.

    +1

    All computers can freeze and smartphones are simply small computers.

    I think everything I owned be it iPod or G300, or Android Phone has crashed or frozen at some point. It probably comes down to how hard you use them.

    Obviously something with more ram and processing power is going to crash less often if you stay within its limits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    All phones can freeze at some point. even iphones.
    I don't know where people get the notion that Apple's products are the epitome of responsiveness and stability. These days (and for some time), they're no more responsive/stable than other similarly priced phones/tablets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,015 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭IrishHomer


    News update! :)

    Tonight I deleted another 50% of my apps from the Huawei G300 and its now running smoothly:)

    Massive difference, just a pity missing bulk of my paid for apps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭irishpancake


    IrishHomer wrote: »
    News update! :)

    Tonight I deleted another 50% of my apps from the Huawei G300 and its now running smoothly:)

    Massive difference, just a pity missing bulk of my paid for apps.

    Can you elaborate on the paid apps situation, they should not be missing....have you removed or deleted them?? In Application Management??

    Are they still showing as installed on Google Play??

    Just for your info:

    Retrieving previously purchased applications (Link)
    Retrieving previously purchased applications

    Your application purchases are tied to your Google Account and can be installed an unlimited amount of times on any device. So, for example, if you remove "My Favorite Game" to save memory, you can reinstall it at a later date with no charge by simply visiting My Apps. You can also re-install apps from play.google.com from the My Android Apps section.

    If you are being asked to purchase an application you have already purchased on Google Play on an existing or previous device, you might be using a different account than the one you were using at the time you made your purchase. Because the application is associated with a different Google Account, you are being charged to purchase it again. Additionally, if you are missing certain apps (free or paid), they might be registered under a different Google account. Fortunately, you can recover access to these apps by simply switching the account you’re currently signed into on Google Play.

    Also, removing apps certainly will give you more space, as in storage space, on your phone....ROM.

    But, it should not really impact on your performance, as in how your loaded app performs, that is RAM, which Android uses pretty efficiently already, by dumping those apps not in use from memory if some is needed for whatever task is being performed at that time.

    A new Custom, like Stock+ I mentioned earlier, is efficient in memory usage, and storage, by use of the Internal SD 2GB exclusively for apps.

    How big, and what Class is your External SD Card, if you have one? 16 GB cards are relatively cheap, but you should opt for Class 6 and above, example shown from Amazon for £10:

    Transcend 16GB Class 6 microSDHC Flash Memory Card with Adapter (Link)

    Doing this stuff will not transform the G300 into a Nexus 4 of course, but it can make the phone more bearable to use for the time you will retain it.

    And, if you make a mess, as we all do, it is no real biggie, as this phone is just so cheap to buy.....and kinda cheerful too. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    I don't know where people get the notion that Apple's products are the epitome of responsiveness and stability. These days (and for some time), they're no more responsive/stable than other similarly priced phones/tablets.

    To be fair, of all phone and tablets i've used, and i've used a few, apple's have been the most stable by far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    To be fair, of all phone and tablets i've used, and i've used a few, apple's have been the most stable by far.
    And what exactly did you use? Latest gen Apple products and old/low end Android phones? The details make a big difference.

    It's the same with laptops. People compare Macbooks with €399 bargain basement laptops and base their judgement on that flawed comparison.

    For example, my HTC One is possibly the most responsive phone i've ever used. I've had it for over a month now and I wouldn't be exaggerating in saying it quite literally hasn't so much as stuttered or dropped a frame doing anything. I can't say the same for a 3rd gen iPad I use from time to time and to be fair, a few other Android phones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    Could be down to the app you use or website you on. Sometimes if internet is slow might crash. It might be that the app needs to be updated or server on lock down.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    And what exactly did you use? Latest gen Apple products and old/low end Android phones? The details make a big difference.

    It's the same with laptops. People compare Macbooks with €399 bargain basement laptops and base their judgement on that flawed comparison.

    In what way is flawed in comparison?

    Apple products are stable enough from that point of view less likely to crash. It has different os for macs/ipad to android and windows.


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