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Question about citizenship

  • 19-06-2013 12:45pm
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    I'd class a citizen a citizen of a country as soon as a birth cert is got for them as a child.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,629 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    Plenty of citizens never obtain a passport; nothing in law curtailing the rights of a non passport holder. Presume birth was pre referendum to limit rights of those outside RoI and those in RoI to non national parents.

    S7 of Irish Nationality & Citizenship Act 1956 may be of application but I think this is narrow and only those brn in NI whose parents were not Irish citizens (eg having already alienated themselves for political reasons) are not automatically Irish citizens. As ever, act is not updated online for 2004 amendments but those will be irrelevant if person is old enough!

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1956/en/act/pub/0026/print.html#sec7


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭rubberdungeon


    Q. I was born and am living in Northern Ireland. I hold a UK passport. Am I an Irish citizen?

    A. If you were born in Ireland prior to 1 January 2005 then you are entitled to be an Irish citizen. If you were born on or after 1 January 2005 and one of your parents was an Irish or British citizen, or if either of your parents was entitled to reside in the State or Northern Ireland without any restrictions on his or her residence, then you have an entitlement to Irish citizenship.

    If this does not apply to your parents, you may still have an entitlement to Irish citizenship if either of your parents, immediately preceding your birth, had reckonable residence in the island of Ireland of three years in the four years immediately prior to your birth and neither parent was entitled to diplomatic immunity in the State.

    You don’t have to obtain an Irish passport in order to be an Irish citizen (though having an Irish passport is of course a convenient way of showing that you are an Irish citizen). As far as Irish law is concerned, there is no difficulty about holding Irish citizenship and at the same time citizenship of another State such as the United Kingdom.

    http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/Frequently%20asked%20Questions%20about%20Irish%20Citizenship%20and%20Naturalisation#Q2


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,629 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


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    From an Irish law perspective, I think they would have to follow the declaration of alienage route unless that was changed post Good Friday Agreement. Of course the person might not recognise the authority of a foreign power to deem him a citizen and might not acknowledge the need for such a thing. (And I don't mean this in a freeman type of argument.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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