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Is it illegal? (Pulling down posters)

  • 18-06-2013 3:56pm
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    While travelling around Dublin city centre today, the sheer amount of Pro-Life posters absolutely amazed me. I'm just wondering whether it's illegal or not to tear these down? Not because of any pro-life/pro-choice debate, but because they're an eyesore!

    So it doesn't become a Dublin-centric topic, is it illegal to tear these down in general? Election posters and whatnot.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Over in the UK there's some sort of advertising watchdog that complaints for such things can be submitted to.

    Maybe if there's something like that here? That'd be the avenue to go down. I'd expect removing them to be considered vandalism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    If there up the poll you have to leave them that way. Thats kinda what the posters say isnt it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    They were probably put up illegally. Going on the past record of the loons that do this, the images were likely stolen without permission. They're eyesores to boot. Getting rid of them would be your civic duty, tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Bobby42


    If they dont have permission to have the poster up taking the posters down is perfectly legal.

    I'm pro choice myself, but I wouldn't take their posters down. As tempting as it is, its stooping to their level, as they take down any pro choice posters.

    They shouldn't be allowed to have lies in any of the posters though.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sarky wrote: »
    They were probably put up illegally. Going on the past record of the loons that do this, the images were likely stolen without permission. They're eyesores to boot. Getting rid of them would be your civic duty, tbh.

    I'm tempted to make pro-choice posters and put them up either over the pro-life ones or right beside them. Just for the lulz.

    I do hope this doesn't turn into a pro-life/pro-choice debate by the way - it's not what the intention is, more so just how much of an eyesore these posters can be. Especially with pretty horrible statements and photos.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    Unless it's a paied ad its just a peice of paper in a public place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    Sarky wrote: »
    They were probably put up illegally.

    Against what law, when they only answer to GAWD


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    http://www.dublincity.ie/WATERWASTEENVIRONMENT/WASTE/Pages/ProtocolforAdvertisingPosters.aspx

    If not granted permission, complain to the litter wardens office.

    http://www.dublincity.ie/WaterWasteEnvironment/Waste/Litter/Pages/ReportPollutionLitter.aspx

    As to taking them down yourself, I was once 'detained' by an irate businessman after I took his crappy posters down as they were litter under the litter act. Guards took a dim view as I only had his posters, and not any others. Posters were taken from me by the Guard but not given back to him. I wasn't charged.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    Funnily enough there is no provision for an offence of damage to election posters in the Prevention of Electoral Abuses Act, as you might think. But it is still an offence under section 2 of the criminal damage act 1991 to damage election posters, unless they come under the definition of litter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I see your big spoon there, boneyarsebogman ;)


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    mf240 wrote: »
    If there up the poll you have to leave them that way. Thats kinda what the posters say isnt it.

    Boom Boom! Very witty!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    They aren't election posters though - they are lobbying the government on a bill, that should make it open season to take them down.

    I would love to know how they got them up on Kildare St though, when it's closed off for the Obamas' visit...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    Not because of any pro-life/pro-choice debate, but because they're an eyesore!

    Do you usually go around picking up litter/chewing gum from the street?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    i usually tend to form an opposite opinion to illegally posted fliers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭inocybe


    I take down circus posters from the poles outside my house because I hate the circus. Besides they never take them down themselves so you end up with tatters blowing in the wind for months. So yes, do the world a favour and pull them down :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    While travelling around Dublin city centre today, the sheer amount of Pro-Life posters absolutely amazed me. I'm just wondering whether it's illegal or not to tear these down? Not because of any pro-life/pro-choice debate, but because they're an eyesore!

    So it doesn't become a Dublin-centric topic, is it illegal to tear these down in general? Election posters and whatnot.

    They're probably put up illegally like the ones businesses think they have the right to put anywhere. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Pro-tip: Way back when my brother entered the Red Bull soap box derby thing in Cork, we found out that election posters made really good material for building kart frames. Those Youth Defence anonymous pro-life posters look pretty sturdy.

    Just saying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Do you usually go around picking up litter/chewing gum from the street?

    Not usually the street, but if I am out in countryside and find litter I often pick it up.

    Do you go around throwing down litter? Why do you object to someone helping enforce the law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    If the posters are less than 2 meters off the ground, they are illegally in place..... remove them and claim they were below that mark. That 2 meters is from the bottom of the poster, not the top.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    Auctioneer signs piss me off. Land that's long sold and an eyesore of a sign still there. Plus they throw them up in your eyeline at crossroads. Wreaks me head.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭mitosis


    If the posters are less than 2 meters off the ground, they are illegally in place..... remove them and claim they were below that mark. That 2 meters is from the bottom of the poster, not the top.


    No. You can report them, but you are not deputised to enforce. You may not remove them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭gugleguy


    "Bobby42 wrote: »
    They shouldn't be allowed to have lies in any of the posters though.
    To be specific why I am thanking you.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    They aren't election posters though - they are lobbying the government on a bill, that should make it open season to take them down.

    I would love to know how they got them up on Kildare St though, when it's closed off for the Obamas' visit...

    They are posters for a public meeting. as long as they are above seven feet, they are fine. they must be taken down within a week of the event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    mitosis wrote: »
    No. You can report them, but you are not deputised to enforce. You may not remove them.

    Any penalty for removing them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭latenia


    While we're on the subject, does anyone know who those weirdos in the red sashes handing out pamphlets on O'Connell St are?


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