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Historical Strongmen

  • 17-06-2013 12:40pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭


    Hey,

    I've recently become really interested in the life of Eugen Sandow after picking up one of his books, "Strength & How to Obtain It", I find the time fascinating, Him and others around that time, how it was viewed and how they lived.

    So is anyone else here into historical strongmen and can recommend any books or film on the matter? Documentaries or biography's? I'm ordering a book about Sandows life, some of the stories and things he did are mental.

    I'd love to hear or similar people throughout history.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Paul Anderson must be top of your list.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    Hanley wrote: »
    Paul Anderson must be top of your list.

    First I've heard of him, I'll look into it. I've generally been looking at people earlier than that, the "Freakshow" sort of era.


  • Moderators Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Big_G


    Max Sick of Maxalding fame is an interesting one. Could isolate muscles and flex them like a yogi but anywhere on his body.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    There is a lot of stuff on the web about "physical culture" and historical strongmen. Many hours of reading. If you haven't heard of a well known figure like Paul Anderson before now you've probably only scratched the surface so far.

    I'm mildly obsesssed with this sort of stuff and I wouldn't limit myself to the Sandow era as strongmen from later years are just as interesting.

    Here are some links, these are just examples of what's out there

    The Tight Tan Slacks of Dezso Ban
    http://ditillo2.blogspot.ie/

    Chaos and Pain (NSFW but many articles on historical strongmen from Hermann Goerner to Bob Peoples)
    http://chaosandpain.blogspot.ie/

    Sandow and the Golden Age of Iron Men
    http://www.sandowplus.co.uk/

    Big Steel
    http://www.bigsteel.iwarp.com/

    Natural Strength
    http://www.naturalstrength.com/

    Historical Performances in Chin-ups, Pull-ups, Levers, and Crosses (part of John Gill's website)
    http://www128.pair.com/r3d4k7/Chinups.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    Awesome, thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    I read a fair bit a while back, I think BrianD3's links cover them all. Very interesting stuff, it also talked of different emphasis they had, like not having a big chest, I don't think they did bench press, think its relatively new(?)

    Some of the tales/feats can be taken with a pinch of salt. There is one famous one called the "close to impossible", a supposed static hold

    JasperCTIFull.jpg
    Which had much discussion on a gymnastics site, where the gymnastics coach who runs the site reckoned it is just that, impossible. There are several videos on youtube attempting it, some fakes, some just progressions.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    I've ordered Sandow The Magnificent Just Read Strength and How to Obtain It by him and it's amazing how much of it is still relevant today, parts of it read like it could have been written yesterday. I'm going through that site and learning about each Icon.
    I was hoping there word be some books with a general overview of time periods.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Real men wear boots even when posing ( in the vid)
    Sandow was very cool


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭amazingemmet


    The close to impossible is as it says close to impossible but not impossible. The way people describe of getting into it is impossible, normally they say chin up then push out but if you treat it like a straight arm kip to support and just stop and squeeze then you can hold for a bit but you'll rotate down to front lever just due to the weight distribution in the body.I'll try stick a video on my facebook/twitter during the week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,898 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    The close to impossible is as it says close to impossible but not impossible. The way people describe of getting into it is impossible, normally they say chin up then push out but if you treat it like a straight arm kip to support and just stop and squeeze then you can hold for a bit but you'll rotate down to front lever just due to the weight distribution in the body.I'll try stick a video on my facebook/twitter during the week.

    Define "a bit". Would need to be a few seconds at least to qualify as a static hold.

    I don't think its possible, but i'll gladly be proven wrong by a video.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭amazingemmet


    In gymnastics you only have to hold for 2 seconds to score the points so that's the criteria I'd use to count it valid. I doubt anyone has done longer then that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭Thehandviolent


    Hi, i dont mean to drag up old threads but i see that you had an interest in Sandow. I was wondering could you help me. I have recently found an original exercise chart that belonged to my grandfather, it is entitled "Sandows concise anatomical chart" and was produced by Gale + Polden of London. It is a poster around two and a half feet wide and foot and a half high, with various pictures of different exercises and two illustrations. Im basically wondering have i found something rare or is it something people would want. Any help would be great, Thank You.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭amazingemmet


    Any chance of some pics of it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭Thehandviolent


    Yeah ill throw up a pic, Ill take a quick one with a phone or something. I work with microfilms so im currently processing it after taking the image with a 35mm camera to reproduce it. Give me a few mins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭Thehandviolent


    Not the best image but you get the idea! Im going to touch it up in photoshop once the microfilm is finished processing. J4Z4DW4.jpg?2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭amazingemmet


    Nice one looks interesting. Not sure if its valuable but if you could revive it you might be able to sell posters of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    The close to impossible is as it says close to impossible but not impossible.
    Did you ever have a go trying it after that.
    Im basically wondering have i found something rare or is it something people would want. Any help would be great, Thank You.
    Maybe try this collectibles forum http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=394


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭amazingemmet


    rubadub wrote: »
    Did you ever have a go trying it after that.

    It works sort of as in I can hit the close to impossible position fine but the hold while I can feel it, needs work but feels do able but I doubt more then 2-3 secs is possible at most.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭Thehandviolent


    Thanks yeah, ill stick up the picture in that section. I'm not really interested in its value to sell or anything, just want to know more about it. I'd like to think someone out there would appreciate it! Thanks for the replys!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Kaloma


    anyone willing to do that program? Can't make out most of the exercises but they seem to cover the shoulders and core pretty well. Looks like quite a few statics in there too, but that could be my eyesight


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭Thehandviolent


    Kaloma wrote: »
    anyone willing to do that program? Can't make out most of the exercises but they seem to cover the shoulders and core pretty well. Looks like quite a few statics in there too, but that could be my eyesight

    If your talking about the image I uploaded, all the exercises use a rope tied to something, I'm pretty **** for the exercise so I wouldn't know what kind of exercises they are...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭cgmd1


    Cool Poster, you should get that framed. Scan it first though


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