What's Needed To Repair YLOD?

Aspiring

I see some old threads about this but looking for fresh info.

The man in the shop told me it can't be fixed but he was a bit of a cnut and when I got it back the warranty seal wasn't even broken so I'm a bit skeptical. I'm looking to get a cheap heat gun somewhere and sure the rest should be cheap enough.

Anybody done this?

mtb nut

You can do it without opening the ps3. Granted not the best option available but it does work.My ps3 is still going a year later after doing it this way.

Get yourself a good hair dryer and the old ps3 box if you still have it and roast it for 15 to 20 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUaCoimoKTk

Aspiring

mtb nut wrote: »

You can do it without opening the ps3. Granted not the best option available but it does work.My ps3 is still going a year later after doing it this way.

Get yourself a good hair dryer and the old ps3 box if you still have it and roast it for 15 to 20 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUaCoimoKTk

I had thought this only lasted a few minutes if it worked at all!

I'll have a look for the box and have a go. Have nothing to lose.

Timmyctc

Not even a word of a lie but so long as you removed the Battery on the motherboard you can put it in the oven to do a reflow. Its the same basic premise as a reflow oven. We tried it once with a heat gun and once with the oven. Oven lasted about 8 months the heatgun method lasted about 1-2 months. (Tried the heatgun method 1st FWIW) Obviously you need some kind of thermal paste to apply to the two processors. Think the oven method is better because the heat is constant and throughout while with the heatgun you can miss areas and potentially warp the board.

Btw hairdryer wont be effective enough.

EDIT: Thought you meant a hairdryer as a substitute for Heatgun.

Aspiring

Timmyctc wrote: »

Not even a word of a lie but so long as you removed the Battery on the motherboard you can put it in the oven to do a reflow. Its the same basic premise as a reflow oven. We tried it once with a heat gun and once with the oven. Oven lasted about 8 months the heatgun method lasted about 1-2 months. (Tried the heatgun method 1st FWIW) Obviously you need some kind of thermal paste to apply to the two processors. Think the oven method is better because the heat is constant and throughout while with the heatgun you can miss areas and potentially warp the board.

Btw hairdryer wont be effective enough.

So what do I do? Take it apart and put some part in the oven? I don't really care if it ****s it up more the lad in the shop said the motherboard was phucked or somethin but he was a con artist. I'll do some research. 8 months should be long enough to trade it in to GameStop/Play it a bit.

Timmyctc

Aspiring wrote: »

So what do I do? Take it apart and put some part in the oven? I don't really care if it ****s it up more the lad in the shop said the motherboard was phucked or somethin but he was a con artist. I'll do some research. 8 months should be long enough to trade it in to GameStop/Play it a bit.

Right. Disassemble. Theres 100s of videos on Youtube to help you with that. Make sure you find the right video to suit your model as the interior layouts vary. When you get it all stripped down and the motherboard disconnected (Carefully) theres a round battery in the corner of one side of your Motherboard. Make sure that it is removed. It's like Super duper important you remember this.

Get some tissue or a clean cloth and some rubbing alcohol. (Vodka will do) and rub off the thermal paste on the two processors (the silver squares in center of board) make sure they is nice and clean.

Then you put in the oven. 200c for like 10 mins I think it is.

As you see here. After you remove it you want to wait for it to cool then liberally apply new thermal paste to the processors and reassemble! Thermal paste costs like a 5er in Currys or general electronic store. Hope it works for ya.

Aspiring

Wonderful stuff! I'll try get everything together and give it a go.

Jimbobjoeyman

Please don't do any of these DIY repairs.
Using a heat gun or throwing your mainboard in the oven is no offence but naive on so many levels doing much more harm than good to your system and a short lived repair.
To repair YLOD or RROD for that matter you need A BGA rework station minimum which is something the average hosehold or the average shop advertising console repairs doesn't have for that matter.
This is coming from someone who has repaired over 100 of these issues properly through BGA reballing and reflowing on a real rework station.

If all you want is to transfer your data then by all means work away with the diy repair but if you want it fixed properly take it to someone who knows how to operate a BGA rework station

Timmyctc

Jimbobjoeyman wrote: »

Please don't do any of these DIY repairs.
Using a heat gun or throwing your mainboard in the oven is no offence but naive on so many levels doing much more harm than good to your system and a short lived repair.
To repair YLOD or RROD for that matter you need A BGA rework station minimum which is something the average hosehold or the average shop advertising console repairs doesn't have for that matter.
This is coming from someone who has repaired over 100 of these issues properly through BGA reballing and reflowing on a real rework station.

If all you want is to transfer your data then by all means work away with the diy repair but if you want it fixed properly take it to someone who knows how to operate a BGA rework station

Well My ps3 lasted 8 months and now a further 4-present with the oven method. My mate's one is currently on 6 and counting. I know one guy who swears by the heatgun method and his ps3 seems to be still functioning. OP says he doesn't care about the console at this point so why not let him try the cheap method as opposed to spending 100 quid ( especially when new slim ps3s are going at 150) If he gets even 4 - 5 months out of it sure the next gen of consoles will be out by that stage and if he;s managed to save on paying the extortionate rates I've been quoted by people to do a full reflow on my board then he's that bit closed to ps4 when it comes out.

Jimbobjoeyman

Timmyctc wrote: »

Well My ps3 lasted 8 months and now a further 4-present with the oven method. My mate's one is currently on 6 and counting. I know one guy who swears by the heatgun method and his ps3 seems to be still functioning. OP says he doesn't care about the console at this point so why not let him try the cheap method as opposed to spending 100 quid ( especially when new slim ps3s are going at 150) If he gets even 4 - 5 months out of it sure the next gen of consoles will be out by that stage and if he;s managed to save on paying the extortionate rates I've been quoted by people to do a full reflow on my board then he's that bit closed to ps4 when it comes out.

where would you get a new slim ps3 for 150 ?
might pick one up at that price.

on to the point of repair as I said if its just a salvage by all means belt away with diy.
If you want a reliable repair get it done properly.
Thats an impressive diy timeframe you have there alright.
I'd be under the impression that your were the minority that it wasn't the solder that was problematic and was the ihs not making proper contact causing ylod hence why heating it up made the ihs glue malleable and the IHS sat in properly then.

Due to the fact that the heat gun or an oven simply cant get the solder hot enough to reflow is the first reason why diy repairs dont work,
Then if you do get it hot enough because it cant be controlled your damaging parts of the console and warping the board due to uneven and uncontrolled heat spread and the lack of a proper infared underheater.
what these diy repairs actually do is warp the board into a position where they make contact.

btw a proper reflow costs in the range of 35-50 much the same price as a decent temp controlled heatgun.

Aspiring

I have a fan oven I think, will this be a problem? And thAnks for the tips but I only need a temp fix

Pixelbastardo

Iv used the hairdryer technique mentioned above, and it worked. I only wanted to get my saves off though and bought a slim.
The old 40g phat that i used the hairdryer on still turns on too, although i heated it a bit too much and damaged something because it wouldnt takes discs afterwards. So i cant comment on how long the hairdryer fix will last, im guessing one long gaming session would do it in.

Merl1n

the only real fix requires a reball machine
the graphics chip needs to e removed a lead solder used to put it back on
then new thermo paste

Doing this is expensive and sony offer refurbs for 120

Aspiring

Merl1n wrote: »

the only real fix requires a reball machine
the graphics chip needs to e removed a lead solder used to put it back on
then new thermo paste

Doing this is expensive and sony offer refurbs for 120

You could probably a playstation and a few games for that.
I got a PS3 on adverts for 80 so what'd be the point of paying 120.

Also I'm broke.

Timmyctc

Sorry was away earlier. I accidentally said new slim ps3 i meant I got a new ps3 a slim preowned for 150. If you dont care about the system now then go for the temp fix 100%. The oven method works on a temp basis. You're saving the cost (Which would buy you a new ps3 anyways) and if it does even serve you only a few months the ps4 is out end of the year anyways. We used a fan oven each time. And admittedly your board will damage with each successive temp fix. (Mines only plays for about 3 - 4 hours at a time now then freezes and needs to be reset but thats over a year and a half from the original YLOD) but if you are interested in a cheap fix that will get you by until the new generation I say go for it.

BTW make sure the problem is the processors and not the power supply. Faulty power supply is known to cause YLOD.

Aspiring

Timmyctc wrote: »

Sorry was away earlier. I accidentally said new slim ps3 i meant I got a new ps3 a slim preowned for 150. If you dont care about the system now then go for the temp fix 100%. The oven method works on a temp basis. You're saving the cost (Which would buy you a new ps3 anyways) and if it does even serve you only a few months the ps4 is out end of the year anyways. We used a fan oven each time. And admittedly your board will damage with each successive temp fix. (Mines only plays for about 3 - 4 hours at a time now then freezes and needs to be reset but thats over a year and a half from the original YLOD) but if you are interested in a cheap fix that will get you by until the new generation I say go for it.

BTW make sure the problem is the processors and not the power supply. Faulty power supply is known to cause YLOD.

How will I know?

eddhorse

Anyone got any info on where I can get reball done on my 60GB launch model?

aaronm13

eddhorse wrote: »

Anyone got any info on where I can get reball done on my 60GB launch model?

Looking for the same info too. I did the hair dryer trick three weeks ago and its going OK except for the fan going crazy every now and then. Just need it to last till the PS4 is launched so might be better off keep doing the hairdryer thing and keep the money and put it towards the PS4, still nice to weigh up my options.

Jimbobjoeyman

eddhorse wrote: »

Anyone got any info on where I can get reball done on my 60GB launch model?

consolepros.ie was doing them at one stage but never openly advertised them.
Best shoot an email in that direction

Pixelbastardo

argos doing the new slim for 180 ...(177.99e) not bad for the 12g hdd model, when the 500g is 150e more expensive...

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/9124303/Trail/searchtext%3ECONSOLE.htm

synesthesia

I reflowed mine successfully buying a kit on ebay

Scráib

Hmmm... my PS3 had YLOD a few months back and I've been wondering how I can fix it up.

Finding out what the root cause of the problem is seems to be the tricky part since from what I've read here the YLOD in itself doesn't consistently point to the faulty component.

JaneyM89

I wouldnt go back to consolepros.ie again to be honest this is my 3rd time sending it back for the YLOD only get about 4 or 5 months everytime and now he has it over 3 months <post content snipped>

obliviousgrudge

Was watching TV on the PS3 two days ago and after about 5 minutes the system shut down. I put it down to PlayTV being faulty. I tried to turn it on again but to no avail. I Googled the symptoms (yellow LED, flash red LED and 3 beeps) and it said overheating was the issue so left it a few hours and tried again - no joy.

Rang Sony today and looked online, looks like its YLOD. Wasn't going to buy a PS4 for a good few years, but since my PS3 is buggered it looks like I will buy a PS4. Sony wanted €120 for a refurb PS3 160GB model. Don't see the point in paying over a 1/4 of the price of a PS4 for a PS3, so might give a few of these options a try for now.