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Man held as four stabbed at mosque in Birmingham

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  • #2
    Victor McDade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Victor McDade


    Turban-tulent times...
    I'd like to sheik the hand of the cop injured while making the arrest.
    Right, back to work, mosque go...


  • #3
    old_aussie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Police Officers are conducting patrols in the area in a bid to reassure local people, a spokeswoman for West Midlands Police said.

    Reassure people of What?


  • #4
    Peregrine
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    It's very strange indeed. Thankfully the 4 injured are okay.

    I wonder what caused it
    Victor McDade wrote: »
    Turban-tulent times...
    I'd like to sheik the hand of the cop injured while making the arrest.
    Right, back to work, mosque go...

    That's appalling


  • #5
    brummytom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Birmingham has huge problems with ethnic ghettos, and racial tensions between Asian ghettos and Black Ghettos. Ward End is the former, and this is probably just another of the many racially aggravated attacks that happen all the time there.

    Strange, though.


  • #6
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    old_aussie wrote: »
    Reassure people of What?
    That the EDL won't firebomb the mosques.

    The attack sounds fairly personal.


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  • #7
    af_thefragile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    Victor McDade wrote: »
    Turban-tulent times...
    I'd like to sheik the hand of the cop injured while making the arrest.
    Right, back to work, mosque go...

    I've never read more terrible puns in one post!!


  • #8
    P. Breathnach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    brummytom wrote: »
    Birmingham has huge problems with ethnic ghettos, and racial tensions between Asian ghettos and Black Ghettos. Ward End is the former, and this is probably just another of the many racially aggravated attacks that happen all the time there.

    Strange, though.
    Did you read the report? It includes
    BBC Midlands correspondent Peter Wilson reported: "All lines of enquiry are being investigated, but this does not appear to be a hate crime attack."
    On what basis do you categorise it as a "racially aggravated attack"?


  • #9
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    P. Breathnach wrote: »
    Did you read the report?

    To be fair the BBC website updates the story as they get more info.

    The OP posted the link several hours ago and the police were investigating if it was a hate crime back then.

    Now it's been updated at 8:34 and the article has changed.


  • #10
    Aydin Mango Vaccine
    Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Aydin Mango Vaccine


    old_aussie wrote: »
    Police Officers are conducting patrols in the area in a bid to reassure local people, a spokeswoman for West Midlands Police said.

    Reassure people of What?

    That a crazy dude running around with a machete will be caught before killing them?


  • #11
    Big Bottom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭Big Bottom


    Muslims in the uk have to expect a backlash after the recent murder of that poor soldier though?


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  • #12
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Big Bottom wrote: »
    Muslims in the uk have to expect a backlash after the recent murder of that poor soldier though?


    Why? Did they all sign off on it?


  • #13
    KingOfFairview
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭KingOfFairview


    Big Bottom wrote: »
    Muslims in the uk have to expect a backlash after the recent murder of that poor soldier though?

    just like the Irish during the troubles?


  • #14
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Nodin wrote: »
    Why? Did they all sign off on it?


    Well...."They" appear to have high profile senior clerical figures who are are more than willing to "sign-off on it" on their behalf....

    http://www.guardian-series.co.uk/news/10461395.Extremist_preacher_claims_murdered_soldier_will_burn_in_hellfire/

    In the parallel militant jihadi universe,which Mr Choudry,and others,wish to see becoming our own he speaks for Islam and makes no bones about it.

    Whether those Muslims who disagree with this Senior Cleric's views,challenge them is relevant to how "they" are percieved by the societies they inhabit.


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #15
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    Well...."They" appear to have high profile senior clerical figures who are are more than willing to "sign-off on it" on their behalf.....

    There is no Sunni church in the way theres a catholic church. Secondly, choudray has no training or qualifications from any madrasa, so I'd like to know where you get the notion he's a "senior clerical figure" from.


  • #16
    Big Bottom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭Big Bottom


    KingOfFairview wrote: »
    just like the Irish during the troubles?

    Pretty much yes.


  • #17
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Big Bottom wrote: »
    Pretty much yes.

    So if a random protestant/jew/buddhist kicks me in the shin, it makes sense for me to kick the next one I come across in revenge?


  • #18
    .jacksparrow.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    Nodin wrote: »
    So if a random protestant/jew/buddhist kicks me in the shin, it makes sense for me to kick the next one I come across in revenge?

    Exactly!


  • #19
    IM0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    "a man of somali appearance"

    what the **** does that even mean :confused:

    a black, an asian, a white, an arab, didnt realise somalian was so instantly recognisable :confused:

    wait maybe he had a patch on his eye and parrot on his shoulder and said arrrrrrrrrr?


  • #20
    dublinbhoy88
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 503 ✭✭✭dublinbhoy88


    Big Bottom wrote: »
    Muslims in the uk have to expect a backlash after the recent murder of that poor soldier though?
    was that not revenge for the Muslim grandfather that was murdered walking home from a mosque two weeks before the British army terrorist was killed in woolich?


  • #21
    Andrew_Doran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭Andrew_Doran


    IM0 wrote: »
    "a man of somali appearance"

    what the **** does that even mean :confused:

    a black, an asian, a white, an arab, didnt realise somalian was so instantly recognisable :confused:

    wait maybe he had a patch on his eye and parrot on his shoulder and said arrrrrrrrrr?

    It means just what it says and it makes perfect sense if you have encountered many Somalis.


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  • #22
    scopper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    IM0 wrote: »
    "a man of somali appearance"

    what the **** does that even mean :confused:

    a black, an asian, a white, an arab, didnt realise somalian was so instantly recognisable :confused:

    wait maybe he had a patch on his eye and parrot on his shoulder and said arrrrrrrrrr?

    You can't tell what Somali appearance is? Are you slow? Let me help: black, skinny. Dear lord some of ye are bordering on insane PC-wise.


  • #23
    scopper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    dublinbhoy88 wrote: »
    was that not revenge for the Muslim grandfather that was murdered walking home from a mosque two weeks before the British army terrorist was killed in woolich?

    No, it was not. It was for Iraq/Afghanistan.


  • #24
    scopper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    the_syco wrote: »
    That the EDL won't firebomb the mosques.

    The attack sounds fairly personal.

    The attack was by a Somali guy. Who I suspect was not in the EDL :D


  • #25
    SeanW
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭SeanW


    IM0 wrote: »
    "a man of somali appearance"
    I'm surprised that particular aspect was reported.


  • #26
    TheLastMohican
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭TheLastMohican


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by brummytom viewpost.gif
    Birmingham has huge problems with ethnic ghettos, and racial tensions between Asian ghettos and Black Ghettos. Ward End is the former, and this is probably just another of the many racially aggravated attacks that happen all the time there.

    Strange, though.
    Did you read the report? It includes

    Quote:
    BBC Midlands correspondent Peter Wilson reported: "All lines of enquiry are being investigated, but this does not appear to be a hate crime attack."
    On what basis do you categorise it as a "racially aggravated attack"?
    .-.-.-.--.-.-.--.---.---.--.---.--.---.--.--.--.--.--.---.--.-.--.--.-.---.-.--.-.--.-.--.

    Surely he didn't do it because he loved them :confused:


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