True Detective [HBO] [** Spoilers **]

sk8erboii

glasso wrote: »

given that this was one of the best movies of that decade and by now renowned as a classic I imagine that most people have seen it tbh

Stop being obtuse. Im just recommending a similarly good movie

sk8erboii

sk8erboii wrote: »

Stop being obtuse. Im just recommending a similarly good movie

and I was just pointing out that everyone has most likely seen this movie which you were recommending to watch.

tbh I wouldn't even say that it's of the same mood.

something like Zodiac (which also most would have seen I would guess) would be more similar in terms of a movie with similar atmosphere and structure imo to seasons 1 and 3 (even though the killer was never conclusively identified). there are too many action scenes in L.A Confidential to be similar to seasons 1 and 3 and the majority of it takes place in a continuous timeline.

Nerdlingr

glasso wrote: »

and I was just pointing out that everyone has most likely seen this movie which you were recommending to watch.

tbh I wouldn't even say that it's of the same mood.

something like Zodiac (which also most would have seen I would guess) would be more similar in terms of a movie with similar atmosphere and structure imo to seasons 1 and 3 (even though the killer was never conclusively identified). there are too many action scenes in L.A Confidential to be similar to seasons 1 and 3 and the majority of it takes place in a continuous timeline.

Hence why sk8rboii said to scratch the season 2 itch.

Nerdlingr

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Hence why sk8rboii said to scratch the season 2 itch.

oops! my bad on that one!

wouldn't have thought that anyone would have a T D season 2 itch.

well then Zodiac for 1 and 3.

Thargor

Sorry if its been asked but is this one ep a week or has it all been dumped?

dr.kenneth noisewater

Thargor wrote:

Sorry if its been asked but is this one ep a week or has it all been dumped?

First 2 have been aired. Rest are one a week I think

Slydice

Those 2 episodes were top quality! Mahershala Ali outstanding as usual!

Mc Love

Slydice wrote: »

Those 2 episodes were top quality! Mahershala Ali outstanding as usual!

If you've seen him in Green Book (he's a very good actor - even more so in that movie)

Glebee

Going to wait for at least five episodes to air before I get stuck into this. Seems like a good start though.

Gimme A Pound

Mc Love wrote: »

If you've seen him in Green Book (he's a very good actor - even more so in that movie)

And in Moonlight.

Can't wait to see Green Book.

topper75

Slydice wrote: »

Those 2 episodes were top quality! Mahershala Ali outstanding as usual!

I don't watch drama on Tv. I was flicking the other night and stumbled on episode 2. This guy was a tour de force and pulled me in. I set the box to record the series and read the plot of the first episode on wikipedia.

When all is done, I'll get hold of series 1 and 2 (I gather they are self-contained).

ricero

I have not seen much of Marshal Ali besides this and the first season of Marvels Luke Cage in which he was by far the best thing about. He is a fantastic actor.

Really enjoying season 3.

oneilla

An explainer of the three timelines

https://www.vulture.com/2019/01/true-detective-season-3-timelines-guide.html?utm_medium=s1&utm_source=tw&utm_campaign=vulture

JP Liz V1

steve_r wrote: »

Watched the first 2 episodes and really enjoyed it. Mahershala Ali is an amazing actor.

Was suprised at how negative the avclub review of it was. I get that it's similar to Season 1 - but how exactly is that a bad thing? S2 tried to be different and didn't succeed, in fact I can barely remember any of S2 from a plot perspective.

He is turning into one of this generation's best and likely to pick up another Oscar too this year for Green Book

I was very impressed by the first two episodes, hope the series is just as good

Nerdlingr

Small bit off topic but saw Green Book last night and yes, he is excellent in that too.
Fantatsic actor .

Mike Litoris

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Small bit off topic but saw Green Book last night and yes, he is excellent in that too.
Fantatsic actor .

Thanks for the heads up. Just watched that and it's the best feel good movie I've seen in years!

cmac2009

Mike Litoris wrote: »

Thanks for the heads up. Just watched that and it's the best feel good movie I've seen in years!

Agreed, wonderful movie, the two leads were fantastic.

Bingewatched the three episodes there.
Would keep going if they were all up. It’s very good.

Cina

Third episode is top notch. Great season so far.

IAMAMORON

Just finished episode 3 just now. It is definitely worth checking out. However they are going to have to give us some payoffs soon. I suppose the strength of any whodunnit or crime drama is to give the viewer a few clues. I did find episode 3 a bit vague and very lateral, it seemed to raise more questions and a few possible red herrings.

When he found the toys etc, when were they found on the 1980's timeline? Days, hours after he found the boy?

The detective was very friendly with the dad, who appears to have found god, is this significant with the praying hands on the kid?

Overall it is pretty good, I just hope it has a decent ending. It is easy to raise a mystery, but as a viewer I need my reveals...

alchemist33

IAMAMORON wrote: »

The detective was very friendly with the dad, who appears to have found god, is this significant with the praying hands on the kid?

I got the impression the detective turned out to be his AA sponsor, and there's a bit of God in the AA.

Agreed this episode not quite as good as the first two. There were times I thought season one dragged (heresy, I know) and this was a little reminiscent of it. Still holding me fairly tight though

Episode three was a bit of a snoozefest I thought. I'm not sure what it accomplished.

Eod100

Did anyone see any significance in the ending?

ricero

Loving this so far

Eod100

Eod100 wrote: »

Did anyone see any significance in the ending?

no, other than the obvious fact that the guy was going to work on the case in the 1990 timeline when they found the girl's fingerprints.

Eod100

glasso wrote: »

no, other than the obvious fact that the guy was going to work on the case in the 1990 timeline when they found the girl's fingerprints.

I was more thinking when his wife appeared in that dream. Something about what he found in the woods? Must watch it back

Slydice

3: That episode was well done. I was on edge in some of those scenes! Especially when he imagined the wife talking to him. Then jumping around in time. It feels like it's giving us a similar experience to the old man trying to piece it together. I wonder if he's forgotten some sort of complicity.

Nerdlingr

Did they botch/sabotage the investigation? Thats the feeling i got from the interviewer and the ghostly wife appearance. Obviously we know the person they put behind bars is due to walk...but did they set him/her up i wonder?
Old Hays is piecing together the truth and it seems like hes not gonna like what he finds. Touching on suicide with the gun.

Edit: does it all point to the wife, as previously suspected? Hays finds something that links her to the murder/woods..maybe in the 90s and buries it. It wasn't a black man the old guy saw but a black woman..?? Also anything in the fact there were 3 kids in the beetle but they only showed them interviewing 2. The shots of the 3rd guy are all blurred out, face obscured. All speculation of course!

Nerdlingr

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Did they botch/sabotage the investigation? Thats the feeling i got from the interviewer and the ghostly wife appearance. Obviously we know the person they put behind bars is due to walk...but did they set him/her up i wonder?
Old Hays is piecing together the truth and it seems like hes not gonna like what he finds. Touching on suicide with the gun.

Edit: does it all point to the wife, as previously suspected? Hays finds something that links her to the murder/woods..maybe in the 90s and buries it. It wasn't a black man the old guy saw but a black woman..?? Also anything in the fact there were 3 kids in the beetle but they only showed them interviewing 2. The shots of the 3rd guy are all blurred out, face obscured. All speculation of course!

don't see it that the wife was involved, especially seeing how she wrote the book about it.

the investigation - they mentioned that they got the wrong guy so it wasn't very effective and if it wasn't botched / unsolved would be no story for the series

although I don't think that she died slipping off a slide in school playground either - maybe she was getting close and got whacked as she was investigating it effectively herself also - we'll see.

hopefully there might be a bit of plot progression in the next episode!

errlloyd

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Did they botch/sabotage the investigation? Thats the feeling i got from the interviewer and the ghostly wife appearance. Obviously we know the person they put behind bars is due to walk...but did they set him/her up i wonder?
Old Hays is piecing together the truth and it seems like hes not gonna like what he finds. Touching on suicide with the gun.

It seems that they do botch it, but that the incentive for botching it is giving the DA / Police Commissioner a big win in election year. They probably botch it by setting up that Native American guy. A popular fall guy in their small town. I am not sure what was in the bag he was carrying, it did look like a body bag, but that would be too obvious.

Nerdlingr

My theory is do they, or more specifically, hays botch the investigation on purpose to covered for somebody?....dare not speak its name!
Or does Roland pull rank as lieutenant and send and innocent man down?
Was thinking there a big ass mother flucking gun in the bag, gonna go all Vietnam on the guys that beat him up.
Loving the season so far, but found his episode a small but hard to understand with some of the mumbling.

Tipsy McSwagger

Personally I think the show is ok. It’s definitely not brilliant or must watch imo. The next episode really needs to have something big happen, a good set piece or a major revelation would be nice. Anything to break up the standard TV fare of ‘lead characters child goes missing in supermarket only to be found a few minutes later’ or ‘local hicks beat up local oddball.’

Eod100

errlloyd wrote: »

It seems that they do botch it, but that the incentive for botching it is giving the DA / Police Commissioner a big win in election year. They probably botch it by setting up that Native American guy. A popular fall guy in their small town. I am not sure what was in the bag he was carrying, it did look like a body bag, but that would be too obvious.

Yeah I was thinking it looked like a bag of guns or something. Dunno how it would be a body of the Purcell kid is meant to be alive. Unless there's another victim.

Tipsy McSwagger

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Personally I think the show is ok. It’s definitely not brilliant or must watch imo. The next episode really needs to have something big happen, a good set piece or a major revelation would be nice. Anything to break up the standard TV fare of ‘lead characters child goes missing in supermarket only to be found a few minutes later’ or ‘local hicks beat up local oddball.’

Agreed. A bit too much hyperbole about it. Hopefully won't end up being a Fargo season 3.
Personally don't care for the dementia / unreliable narrator device too much. Next episode needs to be a good one.

Eod100

Fairly mixed episodes. Good parts alright but do think it is a bit derivative of 1st series. Hopefully picks up in next few episodes.

IAMAMORON

The last two episodes are not really doing it for me. It is waaaay to vague in parts. There does not seem to be any glimpse of a sub-plot. No pay-offs and more mystery created. As I said in an earlier post it is simple to create a mystery, the art is how to deliver the reveal. I am not getting any pay off as a viewer at all. I will finish it, but if the ending is that we never find out where the girl is, while not finding out who killed the boy..... I would imagine that I will end up ****ing my widescreen out the window, it has happened before.

mistearious

Ep 3 and 4 .

Yawn....

MonkstownHoop

IAMAMORON wrote: »

The last two episodes are not really doing it for me. It is waaaay to vague in parts. There does not seem to be any glimpse of a sub-plot. No pay-offs and more mystery created. As I said in an earlier post it is simple to create a mystery, the art is how to deliver the reveal. I am not getting any pay off as a viewer at all. I will finish it, but if the ending is that we never find out where the girl is, while not finding out who killed the boy..... I would imagine that I will end up ****ing my widescreen out the window, it has happened before.

Maybe go for a walk instead!

Alpha_zero

Like others have claimed it’s good but nothing special. It has tried to aling more with the feel of the first season to try and recapture some of the magic but it feels generic in this regard.

It’s watchable but a little flat with no real momentum. I am only watching cause of what the first season was.

Unearthly

Not liking this season at all I'm afraid.

The ending to 4th episode was decent though

CiaranW

Anyone else find it real hard to hear what they are saying?
It's like they are talking under their breath at times.

dr.kenneth noisewater

CiaranW wrote:

Anyone else find it real hard to hear what they are saying? It's like they are talking under their breath at times.

There was 2 parts last night when we had to throw on the subtitles, the '90 investigation scene where they were assigning jobs and the scene in present day where he was surrounded by the Vietnamese guys were very hard to understand but its a common issue on all episodes I find

E mac

I think it's gonna be a disappointing ending. I mean we know from previous episodes already they don't find the girl or killer of the boy. Or worse it was all in his head all along

Eod100

E mac wrote: »

I think it's gonna be a disappointing ending. I mean we know from previous episodes already they don't find the girl or killer of the boy. Or worse it was all in his head all along

Unless they do in the present?

dastardly00

CiaranW wrote: »

Anyone else find it real hard to hear what they are saying?
It's like they are talking under their breath at times.

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

There was 2 parts last night when we had to throw on the subtitles, the '90 investigation scene where they were assigning jobs and the scene in present day where he was surrounded by the Vietnamese guys were very hard to understand but its a common issue on all episodes I find

It's a constant struggle for me to understand them. The accent and the amount of mumbling makes it tricky. I struggled with Season 1 as well though.

Gimme A Pound

I think it's really good but the bar was set so high by season one and I don't think it's possible for anything to match it, so anything is gonna be something of a disappointment or anti climax really.

I don't mind the vagueness once it builds to something - I like a sense of mystery.

But yeah the muttering and mumbling (and having to rewind and turn up the volume too high or put on subtitles in some people's cases) this season and season one, can be very grating - pretty disrespectful to the audience too. It's possible to sound authentic and still be coherent (I mean it is the case most of the time).

E mac

Eod100 wrote: »

Unless they do in the present?

possibly in which case the son might yet have a big part to play

sabat

Did anyone else find the scene with the children's mother and the wife/teacher difficult to watch? Her top wasn't exactly flattering.

CiaranW

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote:

There was 2 parts last night when we had to throw on the subtitles, the '90 investigation scene where they were assigning jobs and the scene in present day where he was surrounded by the Vietnamese guys were very hard to understand but its a common issue on all episodes I find

There's a subtitles button!!

IAMAMORON

E mac wrote: »

I think it's gonna be a disappointing ending. I mean we know from previous episodes already they don't find the girl or killer of the boy. Or worse it was all in his head all along

If they pull that one, there will be no going back. I would imagine that it gets solved in the modern timeline. Still a lot of mystery

surrounds where the wife is now, what is the story with his daughter? Also where is Roland West ?

I was hoping for these reveals last night, if they are not coming in the next episode it has the potential to become complete garbage.

Who cares about the Indian bloke, he is obviously the red herring at this stage?

I started watching a whodunnit called " Mosaic" starring Sharon Stone of all people. I have only watched 2 episodes, but it is better. It might be a cheaper production but at least it has me guessing.