People who refuse to use modern technology

How Soon Is Now

Just spent at least an hour queuing in the bank. There where good few people in front and behind me.

Of course four auld ones in front of me refused to use the lodgement machines right beside them....

A member of staff went threw the queue asking did anyone need help offered each one of these people help said they could use the machines and would be shown how. ''No no i am not using any of those machines i dont want to''

You wont take the chance to do things quicker but you will stand in the queue hold everyone else up and moan the whole time about how slow the banks are....... Uhhhhh

Another example people who will not use the self service checkouts in Tesco or Dunnes. They where put there to speed everything up ffs a monkey could operate one.

I understand some people dont like these kinda systems or dont know how to use them but i still dont understand why you would at least refuse to ****ing learn if your given the offer.

You see alot of this **** living in a small town every second person is still living in old fashioned dark house watching Rte on a 19 inch crt television :pac:

**Vai**

Woah! Slow down there Timecop! Whats a CRT television?

How Soon Is Now

**Vai** wrote: »

Woah! Slow down there Timecop! Whats a CRT television?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode_ray_tube

Outkast_IRE

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Just spent at least an hour queuing in the bank. There where good few people in front and behind me.

Of course four auld ones in front of me refused to use the lodgement machines right beside them....

A member of staff went threw the queue asking did anyone need help offered each one of these people help said they could use the machines and would be shown how. ''No no i am not using any of those machines i dont want to''

You wont take the chance to do things quicker but you will stand in the queue hold everyone else up and moan the whole time about how slow the banks are....... Uhhhhh

Another example people who will not use the self service checkouts in Tesco or Dunnes. They where put there to speed everything up ffs a monkey could operate one.

I understand some people dont like these kinda systems or dont know how to use them but i still dont understand why you would at least refuse to ****ing learn if your given the offer.

You see alot of this **** living in a small town every second person is still living in old fashioned dark house watching Rte on a 19 inch crt television :pac:

To be fair I see their point. I don't mind the option of self service but forcing it on you is wrong.
The banks/shops are saving money by having less workers. and making you do the work yourself.

Are you seeing the saving from them using the self service machines ?
In my opinion no, you are not they are only reflected in a higher profit for the company, with very little benefit to the user.

Downbound Train

I don't use them or the ones in Tesco because they put people out of jobs.

Sam Kade

Anti old person moan thread.

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Outkast_IRE wrote: »

To be fair I see their point. I don't mind the option of self service but forcing it on you is wrong.
The banks/shops are saving money by having less workers. and making you do the work yourself.

Are you seeing the saving from them using the self service machines ?
In my opinion no, you are not they are only reflected in a higher profit for the company, with very little benefit to the user.

No one is forcing you to use them there are still checkouts with actual people behind them but if there is a big line of people waiting why stand there when you can speed things up ffs??

Voodoomelon

I refuse to use the internet. I wouldn't know where to start.

mike65

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

You see alot of this **** living in a small town every second person is still living in old fashioned dark house watching Rte on a 19 inch crt television :pac:

No point in junking a perfectly working TV, I only went flatscreen when the old Sony Trinitron finally gave up, I still have a Nokia 6100 mobile phone as its fine and I have no need for anything more "clever".

Ddad

What, like computers have made everyone unemployed??:)

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Sam Kade wrote: »

Anti old person moan thread.

Its not just old people who do it. In this example i seen a few auld ones doing it but ive seen plenty who where much younger also.

**Vai**

Ddad wrote: »

What, like computers have made everyone unemployed??:)

Abacus makers ain't smiling with you.

**Vai**

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode_ray_tube

Aha! Now, whats the television part all about?

How Soon Is Now

mike65 wrote: »

No point in junking a perfectly working TV, I only went flatscreen when the old Sony Trinitron finally gave up, I still have a Nokia 6100 mobile phone as its fine and I have no need for anything more "clever".

I was just using that as an example of old fashioned people living around where i do :pac:.

SafeSurfer

Lets just do the work of multi national corporations for them so they can increase their massive untaxed profits ever more. These technologies are introduced, not for our convenience but for corporations bottom line.

Skull Murphy

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Another example people who will not use the self service checkouts in Tesco or Dunnes.

Keeps them clear for the rest of us. Worse thing is, the oul' dopes do eventually start using them & spoil the whole thing.

Valetta

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

No one is forcing you to use them there are still checkouts with actual people behind them but if there is a big line of people waiting why stand there when you can speed things up ffs??

What were you doing that couldn't be done remotely?

SEPT 23 1989

give me Ceefax 302 over sky sports any day

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Valetta wrote: »

What were you doing that couldn't be done remotely?

Foreign Exchange.

kingcobra

Downbound Train wrote: »

I don't use them or the ones in Tesco because they put people out of jobs.

But they put the software engineers in jobs?

**Vai**

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

give me Ceefax 302 over sky sports any day

Aertel 220 man, at least give your money to homegrown teletext services

wil

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Just spent at least an hour queuing in the bank. There where good few people in front and behind me.

Of course four auld ones in front of me refused to use the lodgement machines right beside them....

A member of staff went threw the queue asking did anyone need help offered each one of these people help said they could use the machines and would be shown how. ''No no i am not using any of those machines i dont want to''

You wont take the chance to do things quicker but you will stand in the queue hold everyone else up and moan the whole time about how slow the banks are....... Uhhhhh

Another example people who will not use the self service checkouts in Tesco or Dunnes. They where put there to speed everything up ffs a monkey could operate one.

I understand some people dont like these kinda systems or dont know how to use them but i still dont understand why you would at least refuse to ****ing learn if your given the offer.

You see alot of this **** living in a small town every second person is still living in old fashioned dark house watching Rte on a 19 inch crt television :pac:

on-line banking op.

was invented for people just like you.

Freddy Smelly

i wrote this text onto boards using a hammer and chisel... might need a new screen though

Outkast_IRE

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

No one is forcing you to use them there are still checkouts with actual people behind them but if there is a big line of people waiting why stand there when you can speed things up ffs??

They are trying to force you to use them, that's the problem.

Tesco for example, at night there used to be people employed for the tills at night in 24 hour stores, now in my local one its 100% self service at night.

Banks, they are getting worse and worse, asking people to leave the queue and use self service machines, they aren't holding a gun to you head but will make you feel like a tool if you don't use self service.

How Soon Is Now

wil wrote: »

on-line banking op.

was invented for people just like you.

I cant get sterling last minute online if i could i would i dont go near the bank unless i have no choice.

humbert

The world is far too tolerant of Luddites. Nobody is unable to learn/adapt, just too lazy.

Downbound Train

kingcobra wrote: »

But they put the software engineers in jobs?

What, i India or China orsomething?

Fat lot of help that is for the person who used to be the cashier - human waste that person s I suppose? Who cares about that person because someone else may get a job designing the machines?

mike65

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Lets just do the work of multi national corporations for them so they can increase their massive untaxed profits ever more. These technologies are introduced, not for our convenience but for corporations bottom line.

QFT! about 50 years ago someone realised that building solid long lasting consumer goods was the road to low growth and poor profits, so built in obsolescence became the new watch word - the throw away world followed (admittedly with the help of ever more efficient production methods).

How Soon Is Now

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

They are trying to force you to use them, that's the problem.

Tesco for example, at night there used to be people employed for the tills at night in 24 hour stores, now in my local one its 100% self service at night.

Banks, they are getting worse and worse, asking people to leave the queue and use self service machines, they aren't holding a gun to you head but will make you feel like a tool if you don't use self service.

Why is it such a problem to just use them when there available though ?

Would you rather stand and wait for another few people to do what they have to do or use a free available quicker machine ?

hatrickpatrick

After what we've just learned about how our use of technology is allowing the American government to build up a profile of absolutely everyone who uses them, refusing to use technology doesn't seem so ridiculous anymore.

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Another example people who will not use the self service checkouts in Tesco or Dunnes. They where put there to speed everything up ffs a monkey could operate one.

Sorry but I'm generally regarded as some kind of tech wizard in my family and I absolutely loathe those machines and refuse to go anywhere near one.
Easy to use? Five words for you: "Unexpected item in bagging areaaaaaaaa!"

Judgement Day

What about poor ould fellas like myself who like to use cash in supermarkets and are delayed by fuppin yuppies paying for a bag of crisps with their shaggin Visa card.

wil

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I cant get sterling last minute online if i could i would i dont go near the bank unless i have no choice.

Get one of those sterling debit cards from an post. Top up as you need

Calhoun

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

No one is forcing you to use them there are still checkouts with actual people behind them but if there is a big line of people waiting why stand there when you can speed things up ffs??

Yet it doesnt feel like that when the line nazi's are harrasing you when inside the bank. Another way they are foricing you to use the service is by cutting the headcount associated with tellar services.

I can see it from both sides to be honest, the banking no matter what you use is a paid service so you should be able to choose what you want. However you should take full advantage of whatever service exists to make it faster where possible.

How Soon Is Now

wil wrote: »

Get one of those sterling debit cards from an post. Top up as you need

I was changing it over for me ma so right now this was the quicker way in the long run :pac:.

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Calhoun wrote: »

Yet it doesnt feel like that when the line nazi's are harrasing you when inside the bank. Another way they are foricing you to use the service is by cutting the headcount associated with tellar services.

I can see it from both sides to be honest, the banking no matter what you use is a paid service so you should be able to choose what you want. However you should take full advantage of whatever service exists to make it faster where possible.

Most banks staff will just kindly ask you if they can help you in a quicker way. Its not always machines in some cases they will take your details and go off and help you or bring you to another area.

Weevil

No offence, but I had to read every paragraph you wrote twice to fully understand your rant. Some people just don't use the tools/technology available to them, preferring to stick with what they are comfortable with. Try patience.

Outkast_IRE

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Why is it such a problem to just use them when there available though ?

Would you rather stand and wait for another few people to do what they have to do or use a free available quicker machine ?

I never said it was a problem to use them, if they are available and you are so inclined.

However my issue is when there is no alternative to self service, or such as in banks where they basically want to pull you out of the queue, if your only making a lodgement.

How Soon Is Now

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

After what we've just learned about how our use of technology is allowing the American government to build up a profile of absolutely everyone who uses them, refusing to use technology doesn't seem so ridiculous anymore.



Sorry but I'm generally regarded as some kind of tech wizard in my family and I absolutely loathe those machines and refuse to go anywhere near one.
Easy to use? Five words for you: "Unexpected item in bagging areaaaaaaaa!"

They only issue i have ever really had with those machines was the whole having to get someone to scan the alcohol for you.

GTDolanator

I have a crappy old nokia phone and i still use the ''old'' look boards.I dont like change

wendell borton

Freddy Smelly wrote: »

i wrote this text onto boards using a hammer and chisel... might need a new screen though

I've upgraded to a slate and chalk.

Tisserand

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Just spent at least an hour queuing in the bank. There where good few people in front and behind me.

Of course four auld ones in front of me refused to use the lodgement machines right beside them....

A member of staff went threw the queue asking did anyone need help offered each one of these people help said they could use the machines and would be shown how. ''No no i am not using any of those machines i dont want to''

You wont take the chance to do things quicker but you will stand in the queue hold everyone else up and moan the whole time about how slow the banks are....... Uhhhhh

Another example people who will not use the self service checkouts in Tesco or Dunnes. They where put there to speed everything up ffs a monkey could operate one.

I understand some people dont like these kinda systems or dont know how to use them but i still dont understand why you would at least refuse to ****ing learn if your given the offer.

You see alot of this **** living in a small town every second person is still living in old fashioned dark house watching Rte on a 19 inch crt television :pac:

Just curious OP: Why were you in the bank queue? Could you not have used on-line banking yourself?

I have an old fashioned tv - not because I am old-fashioned but because I can't afford to upgrade.

How Soon Is Now

Weevil wrote: »

No offence, but I had to read every paragraph you wrote twice to fully understand your rant. Some people just don't use the tools/technology available to them, preferring to stick with what they are comfortable with. Try patience.

If you could not piece together my awful grammar then i deeply apologize from the bottom of my heart.......

Geuze

Today BoI increased fees for paper lodgements, but cut fees for electronic bank transactions.

Price discrimination, which I support.

Let people choose to stay in the queue to lodge manually, but make them aware that it will cost them more.

Incentives change behaviour.

How Soon Is Now

Tisserand wrote: »

Just curious OP: Why were you in the bank queue? Could you not have used on-line banking yourself?

I have an old fashioned tv - not because I am old-fashioned but because I can't afford to upgrade.

My mother rang me asked could i get sterling for her from the bank with my money and she will pay me back. It was last minute so.

How Soon Is Now

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I was changing it over for me ma so right now this was the quicker way in the long run :pac:.

If people not using modern technology annoy you start closer to home.

What possible reason is there for changing sterling in a bank? If you are going to the north or the UK then just use your debit card when you are there. It's not the other side of the world.

If you have some left when you get back just keep it until next time. I can't remember the last time I went into a bank and physically changed notes. Some time in the 90s probably.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

If people not using modern technology annoy you start closer to home.

What possible reason is there for changing sterling in a bank? If you are going to the north or the UK then just use your debit card when you are there. It's not the other side of the world.

If you have some left when you get back just keep it until next time. I can't remember the last time I went into a bank and physically changed notes. Some time in the 90s probably.

oh and I still own a CRT television!

SEPT 23 1989

GTDolanator wrote: »

i still use the ''old'' look boards.I dont like change

there is a new look?

How Soon Is Now

Deleted User wrote: »

If people not using modern technology annoy you start closer to home.

What possible reason is there for changing sterling in a bank? If you are going to the north or the UK then just use your debit card when you are there. It's not the other side of the world.

If you have some left when you get back just keep it until next time. I can't remember the last time I went into a bank and physically changed notes. Some time in the 90s probably.

Thats what i plan on doing myself when i head over the weekend. The money aint for me its for my mother she asked me to get it for her so i did. Shes not in Ireland at the moment so ive no idea what money is in her account etc etc.

hardCopy

wil wrote: »

Get one of those sterling debit cards from an post. Top up as you need

Or just use an ATM when you get there, or the FX ATM in Dublin airport.

Sergeant

If you don't have a smartphone and haven't reached level 70 in Skyrim then you should be beaten in the streets, before being ostracised from society.

Tisserand

Sergeant wrote: »

If you don't have a smartphone and haven't reached level 70 in Skyrim then you should be beaten in the streets, before being ostracised from society.

There must be a concentration camp somewhere for these kind of people...