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Kids in the boot.

  • 13-06-2013 10:11pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭


    I've seen that today.
    An old corsa with 4 or 5 passenger children inside.
    Driver looked rather old possibly woman (maybe grandmother) but I'm only guessing as I've just seen reflection of face in the mirror.

    Scary thing is that 2 children were in the boot, while one or two other on the rear seat was/were definitely not restrained.
    Another child on the front seat, and I don't believe it was restrained either.


    Now come on - I'm not saint. I drive at the grip limits sometimes on empty country roads risking my own life. When I was 17 I was travelling in the boot myself few times, but this was my own choice and I knew what kind of risk I was taking.

    Here we've got an adult with some really small children who are completely not aware of risk they are at.
    How can a single human put 5 kids in such a danger. And for what sake? His/her own stupidity?
    Even a tiny fender bender, if someone rear ends this corsa at 10km/h those children's heads in the boot will hit metal straight away probably ending in the graveyard.
    And I wonder if that driver is doing it on purpose to save few quid on child seats and give children a fun of travling in the boot, or are they just that much ignorant and completely clueless about surrounding world.

    I've never reported anyone on the road, but I have a strong will to send this video to garda.



Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    Wrong on so many levels. I dread to think of an accident :(

    And a c*nt of a corsa too!!!! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Heheh..... Ah the old dear was probably oblivious to the danger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    MugMugs wrote: »
    Heheh..... Ah the old dear was probably oblivious to the danger.

    I remember me and a mate hid in the boot of his parents XM and jumped out for a laugh when they were driving.

    That was back in the days when it was acceptable to give a neighbours child a slap on the arse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    Truly shocking behavior. If the driver thinks that that is acceptable they really should not have a driving license IMO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,733 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    This is how some people like this roll, sometimes their kids will be killed as a result, sometimes not, there's nothing any road safety campaigns or education can do for them, they are just a bit thick.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    To be fair, we used to be driven to the local spud field either in the back of a trailer on a jeep or all six of us hanging off some part of a Massey.

    I understand the concerns and dangers though. I wouldn't do that myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    MugMugs wrote: »
    To be fair, we used to be driven to the local spud field either in the back of a trailer on a jeep or all six of us hanging off some part of a Massey.

    I understand the concerns and dangers though. I wouldn't do that myself.
    Remember all of the same.

    David Browns and Zetors had nice mud guards in the cab for sitting on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    I love how eastern europeans always sound like they are tearing into each other even while having a normal conversation.

    Must be the pronounciation of the words :)

    Have a Polish friend and when she speaks english she sounds so friendly then she speaks polish to a friend and they sound like they are both having a meltdown :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,038 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    That was a fairly routine mode of transport mode when I was a kid :eek:

    Baby sister on mother's knee in the front (neither restrained), four kids across the back seat (rear seatbelts? hadn't been invented yet) and me and the dog and whatever else in the boot (it was an estate). Baby sis eventually outgrew the knee, and joined me and the dog in the boot in later years.

    But in fairness, times have (thankfully!) changed, and anyone doing that sort of thing now deserves a severe rap on the knuckles, if not worse.

    Sadly, unrestrained kids bouncing around cars/jeeps these days is not an unusual sight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,722 ✭✭✭maidhc


    Maybe we are just getting a bit too safety conscious. Cars only got rear seat belts in the early 90s and people survived before that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    On topic.

    Putting your children in a car's crumple zone = Moronic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    On topic.

    Putting your children in a car's crumple zone = Moronic

    Tell that to the owners of ALL 7-SEATERS ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭ardmacha


    Cars only got rear seat belts in the early 90s and people survived before that.

    That's an irresponsible comment. There are less than one quarter the number of deaths on the road now as previously, although traffic is much greater.

    Send the video, the Gardai will not prosecute on a video alone, but will give the driver a deserved stern talking to.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I spent years going around in the back of my uncles car van when I was a young lad, never even thought twice about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    I see you haven't come across kids sitting in the transport box of a tractor yet


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I see you haven't come across kids sitting in the transport box of a tractor yet

    The transport box is still a legimate way to travel out my way, even standing on a pallet on the bale handler will suffice if necessary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Guys.
    When I was small I used to travel in the back seat of Fiat 126 without any seatbelts or anything. And nothing happened.

    But still - in most cases if there was accidents kids on rear seats would hit the backrest of either rear or front seat and probably be allright with smaller accident.

    Also travelling on the tractor, trailer, etc years ago on country roads where other possible vehicle to meet was only other tractor doesn't sound too scary.

    But a view of those little kids in the boot of this tiny corsa and possible consequences of even the smallest tip with other car are threatning. Kid having his head one inch away from 3 inch thick metal frame which can be hit by other vehicle anytime scares me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    That driver deserves a Darwin award.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,661 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    Burn it to a DVD and drop it into the station. That driver would also strike me as the kind to do something unpredictable, causing the trailing driver to hit the brakes.

    Can you imagine the injurys/claims/media attention of even a small tip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    Woman wasn't speeding. Nothing to see here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,628 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    Some of my favourite childhood memories are travelling around sights of Wicklow in the boot of a Fiat Ritmo with my place on the back seat having been taken by a visiting Australian cousin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    Tell that to the owners of ALL 7-SEATERS ;)

    But they are designed with the idea of those seats being used. Suggesting that is that same As having two kids rolling round the boot of an Opel corsa is just silly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    I remember being driven to football matches when I was about 10 in the managers Renault 4. If there weren't enough parents to drive us to the games there were 9 or 10 of us in it at sometimes with footballs and the kit bag. Alas, times have changed and there are no renault 4's around anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    bbam wrote: »
    But they are designed with the idea of those seats being used. Suggesting that is that same As having two kids rolling round the boot of an Opel corsa is just silly.

    Tell that to the kids in the rear most seats with their heads inches from the back of the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    I think the point being made is that those children are restrained and sitting in seats designed to take an impact.

    A boot wouldn't serve the same service should anything happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Gosub


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    Tell that to the owners of ALL 7-SEATERS ;)
    Not all. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 866 ✭✭✭renofan


    Its a crazy thing to be doing in this day and age. We used to do worse when we were kids but we didn't know any better. Also about 8 years ago myself and the brother were getting off the ferry in Rosslare and there was a Transit beside us. Along comes a big family, mother opens the sliding door to reveal a full leather suite of couch and armchairs in the back, into which all the childers pile into :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    In a modern country like Ireland this shouldn't happen any more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭S28382


    One day whilst driving home from work i came up behind a car driving at a decent pace when i noticed the boot was slightly opened i drove behind the car for about 2km when i thought to myself ill try and get the drivers attention by flashing my lights now maybe that would of been a waste of time but i thought hey ill try it anyway.......so just as i was about to flash my lights the boot lid popped open fully and here was some guy lying in the back of the boot he sat up started laughing and pulling faces and at the next turn off the car took it.......needless to say i was asking myself what the fu*k was that all about and did i remember to take my medication that morning.

    My conclusion was that it was just some lads acting the dopes as i didnt hear of any murders anytime after it.:)

    True story.:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    biko wrote: »
    In a modern country like Ireland this shouldn't happen any more.

    That's where you're going wrong. Ireland is far from modern!

    Oh sure we have the latest TVs and phones and clothing, but attitudes are so far behind that that thing doesn't surprise me at all.

    This is why most of Ireland runs on the "Ah shure it'll be grand approach" whether it's old dear's like in the OP's video, state bodies, even Irish-run private companies.

    Completely agree though - it's ridiculous that stuff like this still goes on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭paddydriver


    We all grow older and wiser as time goes on but I was guilty of crazy stuff when younger.. remember about 8 of us bunked off the school mass and went driving up the Dublin mountains in one of the lads fathers van; 6 in the back rolling around and 2 up front.

    All was good, well sort of, until one of the lads puked... we had to spend rest of trip avoiding the puke as it rolled back and forth thru the grooves on the metal floor; needless to say the lad driving didn't slow down, he took us thru more corners.

    When ye think back the lot of us would have been killed if he crashed or rolled it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,696 ✭✭✭Lisha


    People gave definitely gotten lazy about kids in car seats. At school 2o clock pick up at least half the kids just jump in without seat belt not to mind the high backed booster they should be in:(
    It's scary alright

    But kids in the boot of a Corsa is shocking to say the least .
    Maybe it's a once off that the mother got stuck in work and kids had to be collected in a hurry I don't know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,823 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Never did us any harm , whole families of kids in the boot of a hatch back on a day trip , all grand as long as no one crashes ... Mind you in the 70's 800 odd people were killed a year on the roads, and that with feck all cars about ....
    Worst I heard of was a west cork GAA club taking the underage teams to local matches in a cattle box with straw bales to sit on ...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭piston


    Once travelled about 20 miles sitting on the bed of a Peugeot 504 pickup at N road speeds, along with two other kids. A bad idea really but it was fun at the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Pj!


    Can remember my primary school teachers and our GAA coaches piling crazy numbers of us into hatchbacks to get us to matches. Was fun at the time and no-one batted an eyelid (and no-one died!).

    But attitudes have changed. Personally I wouldn't report the driver in the OP but I absolutely realise the danger of it. I'd imagine it's not a thing that she'd get away with very often so was hopefully a once off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    That's pretty bad.

    How are we all suppose to drive properly and responsibly when that <insert abusive word> carry on happens.

    That driver in question should get a slap for that. As a driver, you are held responsible for your passengers..She clearly doesn't give a toss.

    She would be someone I would call a major risk to fellow road users.


    I'd send it to the guards, Even if they do/don't pursue, At least you've done your bit OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭Muckie


    Once came behind a Starlet, had two twin boys about 4 or 5 rolling around the back of the car. Mother was fairly flying it.

    Trying to stand up and look out the back window at me.

    Eventually she stopped at the lights, she was on her mobile phone too.

    Took a pic and rang the Gardai.

    They later got back to me, saying the driver had been cautioned.
    Not great, but might be the wake up call she needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    We had an estate growing up and there was a mattress in the back which we could sit or lay on when driving far.
    Never crossed our mind this would be a dangerous thing to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Markcheese wrote: »
    Worst I heard of was a west cork GAA club taking the underage teams to local matches in a cattle box with straw bales to sit on ...

    Bales?



    Luxury.


    fouryork.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭tcawley29


    CiniO wrote: »
    I've seen that today.
    An old corsa with 4 or 5 passenger children inside.
    Driver looked rather old possibly woman (maybe grandmother) but I'm only guessing as I've just seen reflection of face in the mirror.

    Scary thing is that 2 children were in the boot, while one or two other on the rear seat was/were definitely not restrained.
    Another child on the front seat, and I don't believe it was restrained either.


    Now come on - I'm not saint. I drive at the grip limits sometimes on empty country roads risking my own life. When I was 17 I was travelling in the boot myself few times, but this was my own choice and I knew what kind of risk I was taking.

    Here we've got an adult with some really small children who are completely not aware of risk they are at.
    How can a single human put 5 kids in such a danger. And for what sake? His/her own stupidity?
    Even a tiny fender bender, if someone rear ends this corsa at 10km/h those children's heads in the boot will hit metal straight away probably ending in the graveyard.
    And I wonder if that driver is doing it on purpose to save few quid on child seats and give children a fun of travling in the boot, or are they just that much ignorant and completely clueless about surrounding world.

    I've never reported anyone on the road, but I have a strong will to send this video to garda.


    Only in Castlebar :pac:
    On a more serious note, Report this straight away.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Ha, I travel that exact stretch of road every couple of weeks (have to visit customer in the retail park at the end there), if you see a black S60 behaving badly, do us a favour and kill the dash cam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    I see you haven't come across kids sitting in the transport box of a tractor yet

    About 4 or 5 years back every morning on the way to school I would get stuck behind this tractor with a transport box and two kids sitting on it on the way to their primary school, I know it's terrible but I always had to stifle a laugh at the miserable looks on their faces, especially when they were pulling into the school and all the rest of the kids were getting dropped off by their yummy mummies in their fancy cars. It was even harder to hold it in when it was raining :D.

    Also OP, report her there is no need for that kind of bs at this day in age.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,035 ✭✭✭goz83


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    Tell that to the kids in the rear most seats with their heads inches from the back of the car.

    Some 7 seaters have plenty of room from the rear seats to the back of car, but some have little more than enough room to close the boot itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭man98


    Sure, my family is guilty of guilty of the same offence. From Pembroke to Rosslare in a 7 seater. We were on a family holiday and my brother decided to join us on the way home. The woman with Irish Ferries didn't bother doing a head count. All of us were completely visible on the seats and he got on for free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,083 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    How dafq can this thread be 'trending'?

    Unless 'trending' actually means 'not so recently posted in thread'.....

    Come on folks - if it ain't broke, don't (try to) fix it (when you don't really know what it is).

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    CiniO, please please report this! Ignorant fcuker deserves a bollocking from the Guards at the least


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