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how long will this generation live?

  • 13-06-2013 12:07AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43


    In my early 20s now but work a lot with the elderly and it seems at the moment most of them die around late 70s to mid 80s not many live past 90 though.

    People say my generation will live to over 100 on average, or something because of advances in medicines and clinical research into illnesses and diseases.

    I don't drink or smoke, eat reasonably healthy and do light exercise once a week. if the retirement age is being pushed closer to 70 then I've to fund my retirement to live for 30 years independently. Need to start thinking about this now.

    What age will people being born today live to on average? And do people really want to be living for over a hundred years?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭BNMC


    69


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I can only speak for myself here

    I'll eat when I'm hungry
    I'll drink when I'm dry
    And if the moonshine don't kill me
    I'll live til I die


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,420 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I read somewhere that for babies currently being born that living to 100 will be nothing special and that there could well be someone among them who will live to 150.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 y0pperz


    I read somewhere that for babies currently being born that living to 100 will be nothing special and that there could well be someone among them who will live to 150.

    That's mental to think someone born today could be alive in 2163.

    A man in China died at 127 years old yesterday or the day before so I suppose it's not that crazy to think of figures closer to 150


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,420 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    y0pperz wrote: »
    That's mental to think someone born today could be alive in 2163.

    Yeah it is, but when you think about it some people have already lived to be 120 so another 30 years on top of that is possible for at least one baby being popped out in the next few years.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 y0pperz


    Sorry it was a woman in China and not verified


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Even with advances in medical science I can't see these touted life expectancies becoming a reality. The human body has a range, some people exceed it, most die in around it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,420 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    There have been some long living people in my family, my granny was 102 when she died and I have an aunt who is 98 so maybe with a healthy lifestyle and not getting hit with a bus or something I might make the magic 100 mark.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    People are living longer but a lot of the time they are living sicker. Medicine and advances in the field keeping them alive, not sure what kind of a life that is to live.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    About 2.5 years longer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    well depends.


    My current age is 1,012


    I've been on this planet too long...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    I've been reading 'Children of men' ...so maybe we will lose the ability to pro-create in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    I'll be here until I can no longer fend for myself.
    No way on earth will I be spoonfed/washed/dressed every day.
    For me, that's a pretty grim existence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭Ilik Urgee


    The last time I died I was 64 and that was 86 years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Sauve wrote: »
    I'll be here until I can no longer fend for myself.
    No way on earth will I be spoonfed/washed/dressed every day.
    For me, that's a pretty grim existence.
    It's easy to say that when we're fit and healthy though.

    When we're not might be a different story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,731 ✭✭✭✭entropi


    In before three-fiddy.


    If they keep up their YOLO crap, they won't be living very long anyway.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,393 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    If there's one thing I've learned from the internet it's that humanity appears to be getting dumber and dumber. There appears to be a significant minority of the population who are marginally above the threshold where they'd have to wear headphones reminding them to breath in and out. In time, as the older members of society die off, this minority will gradually become the majority. Advances in technology and medicine will slow down to the point where we'll basically have discovered and invented everything significant that we're ever likely to discover or invent. Gradually a time will come where even what technology we have now will be too difficult for most people to understand and operate. Life expectancy will start to fall as major illnesses become increasingly drug resistant and there's nobody smart enough to be able to come up with new drugs to combat them. Basically we're all doomed! Doomed, I tell you!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Nemeses wrote: »
    well depends.


    My current age is 1,012


    I've been on this planet too long...

    There can be only one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Zaph wrote: »
    If there's one thing I've learned from the internet it's that humanity appears to be getting dumber and dumber. There appears to be a significant minority of the population who are marginally above the threshold where they'd have to wear headphones reminding them to breath in and out. In time, as the older members of society die off, this minority will gradually become the majority. Advances in technology and medicine will slow down to the point where we'll basically have discovered and invented everything significant that we're ever likely to discover or invent. Gradually a time will come where even what technology we have now will be too difficult for most people to understand and operate. Life expectancy will start to fall as major illnesses become increasingly drug resistant and there's nobody smart enough to be able to come up with new drugs to combat them. Basically we're all doomed! Doomed, I tell you!
    The Backwards Man likes this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Zaph wrote: »
    If Gradually a time will come where even what technology we have now will be too difficult for most people to understand and operate.

    It seems to be here already, quite a while, at least in Ireland if we look at our drivers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭123 LC


    i thought that the instances of cancer and other diseases will go up due to all the chemicals in processed foods and other products etc? also infections becoming immune to medicine due to the overuse of antibiotics.....so maybe people won't even live as long?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 169 ✭✭enigmatical


    It would depend on how long it takes for the liver cirrhosis to kick in. Many of them have been binge drinking since an early age.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    123 LC wrote: »
    i thought that the instances of cancer and other diseases will go up due to all the chemicals in processed foods and other products etc? also infections becoming immune to medicine due to the overuse of antibiotics.....so maybe people won't even live as long?
    Instances of diseases rise as a species lives longer, the two go hand on hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Zaph wrote: »
    If there's one thing I've learned from the internet it's that humanity appears to be getting dumber and dumber. There appears to be a significant minority of the population who are marginally above the threshold where they'd have to wear headphones reminding them to breath in and out.
    You sure it's not just the internet giving stupid people a place to be "publicly stupid"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭Franticfrank


    I was reading that worldwide, life expectancy is closely related to income among other factors. Check out this chart comparing life expectancy at birth in 1990 and 2011 related to income. Unsurprisingly the high income earners will be around 20 years longer than the low income earners. Not sure how accurate it is, but pretty sad if it's true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭Aglomerado


    Sauve wrote: »
    I'll be here until I can no longer fend for myself.
    No way on earth will I be spoonfed/washed/dressed every day.
    For me, that's a pretty grim existence.

    Agreed. Dignitas ftw. (for me, anyway!)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Actually due to obesity and lack of exercise this is likely to be the first generation where people will die of natural causes at a younger age than their parents.


    Life expectancy at birth has gone up mainly because so many babies and young children died. Once you made it to adulthood and survived the most common plagues you weren't that far off todays expectancy.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2676107
    : life expectancy at 40 of the Knights of the Holy Spirit, for instance, increased to 30.8 years in the 18th century, from 27.8 years in the 16th century. The same life expectancy today (at 40 years of age) reaches 35.7 years among French professionals
    So a gain of 7.9 years for people who weren't exposed to the worst that 16th France could throw at you.

    And remember that today the final years include cases of people preserving life with advanced technology so the active independent years of life haven't really gone up much in the last few centuries.

    If you roll the clock back further
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/life-expectancy-hunter-gatherer/
    From age 45, the mean number of expected remaining years of life is 20.7, 19.8, and 24.6 for hunter-gatherers, forager-horticulturalists, and acculturated hunter-gatherers, respectively.
    ...
    Average life expectancy is marred by infant mortality rates, and it’s clear that hunter-gatherers – the closest analogues to our Paleolithic ancestors – can and do enjoy “modern” lifespans with an average modal age of 72 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭EoghanIRL


    69 years , seeing as we Are the most mature generation :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Sin City


    Couple of thousand years if you go into cryo

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Anytime I ask my Spanish students how old their grandparents are, the majority would tell me they're well into in their 90s. This would be more common than not. This city is full of really old, active people. I think the main contributing factors are:

    Mediterranean diet.

    Sunshine and the propensity to be outdoors and the incentive to go for walks. You see old wans and auld fellas in their 90s strolling the evenings.

    The fact that old age doesn't mean isolation here. People move in groups at every age. We're sociable beings and I believe human contact is vital for our happiness and in turn, our health.

    Good healthcare system. You can go on about the Mediterranian diet all you like but Spain's public healthcare system is one of the best in the world. People go to the doctor when they are sick (and unfortunately, when they're not) and not attempt to diagnose and medicate themselves like we do in Ireland e.g. not taking Lemsips for Cancer etc.

    Probably genetics. They have good genes, I reckon.

    People in Spain have the longest amount of healthy years in Europe.


    Hopefully this shizzle is contagious. Would like to live till 100.


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