would you ask someone to stop smoking

simply simple

ya, so would you ask someone to stop smoking when you are in a queue and dont like the smoke right onto your face , specially if you are a non smoker?

123 LC

yeah

FizzleSticks

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simply simple

123 LC wrote: »

yeah

what would you say, I felt sick of that today but had no courage to ask them

I am pie

Outdoors in a public place, no.

kneemos

The queue was outdoors presumably?

simply simple

kneemos wrote: »

The queue was outdoors presumably?

ofcourse, most places dont allow smoking indoors

Pumpkinseeds

No, I used to smoke and it probably annoyed people, but smoking outdoors I don't see the problem. Anyway the tax on ciggys is probably all thats holding the HSE together these days.

hidinginthebush

I'm an ex smoker and no, I wouldn't. Its a free country. Smokers are allowed smoke in few enough places as it is, let them enjoy it says I. When I smoked I hated nothing more than whining ex / non smokers, I'd hate to become one myself.

simply simple

hidinginthebush wrote: »

I'm an ex smoker and no, I wouldn't. Its a free country. Smokers are allowed smoke in few enough places as it is, let them enjoy it says I. When I smoked I hated nothing more than whining ex / non smokers.

dont you think those who dont like smoke also have right to enjoy fresh natural air? and that too when one is causing inconvenience for the other?

kneemos

simply simple wrote: »

ofcourse, most places dont allow smoking indoors

Doubt it's doing you any harm outside though the smell is a bit manky(speaking as an ex smoker)

I am pie

Ex smoker here, hate the things, but I would think it very selfish of someone to ask someone not to smoke where they are legally allowed.

If you don't like it you can fairly easily face the other way for the few mins it takes for the rotten thing to be smoked. No big deal.

PhlegmyMoses

simply simple wrote: »

dont you think those who dont like smoke also have right to enjoy fresh natural air? and that too when one is causing inconvenience for the other?

Of course you have the right to that and most smokers should be considerate enough to notice that. However, the situation you describe is after the milk has been spilt. At this point, asking somebody to stop smoking is a bit dickish and confrontational. There's no nice, non-awkward way of doing it and the fact that the other person is seemingly oblivious to others makes it unlikely you'll have a civil conversation.

hidinginthebush

simply simple wrote: »

dont you think those who dont like smoke also have right to enjoy fresh natural air? and that too when one is causing inconvenience for the other?

Of course they do, and it'll be back when the smoker puts their ciggy out in 2 minutes time. Its a slight and very short discomfort. Non smokers make too big a deal out of it IMO.

efb

I was boarding the train one morning and greeted by a filthy plume of smoke exhaled in my direction. If you are going to smoke do it with courtesy to others

simply simple

the thing is, sometimes even if you are standing with a kid, smokers just dont care (knowingly). Just that they are legally allowed to do so doesnt mean they have to stop acting responsibly!

Sergeant

No one is going to stop me smoking my breakfast.

I am pie

Having a hard time imagining how much smoke you are actually being bothered by when you are outside and I presume not touching shoulder to shoulder or face to face with the smoker.

If they are blowing it in your face, that's different of course.

Pumpkinseeds

simply simple wrote: »

the thing is, sometimes even if you are standing with a kid, smokers just dont care (knowingly). Just that they are legally allowed to do so doesnt mean they have to stop acting responsibly!

I think children are at less risk from passive smoke in the outdoors than they are from inhaling fumes from passing traffic and pollution to be honest. I remember having a ciggy while waiting at a bus stop in the UK years ago. A woman who'd parked near by, walked past giving me the evils while telling her child to hurry past. It was a congested city ffs, the couple of seconds it took for them to pass by on their way to wherever were negligable to his health.

Ms. Pingui

It pisses me off that a lot of smokers seem to hold their cirgarette away from themselves so that the smoke is blowing into someone elses face.
I've confronted a few people for blowing smoke in my little daughters face while in crowds and ques.

Pumpkinseeds

Ms. Pingui wrote: »

It pisses me off that a lot of smokers seem to hold their cirgarette away from themselves so that the smoke is blowing into someone elses face.
I've confronted a few people for blowing smoke in my little daughters face while in crowds and ques.

No offence but could you not just move further away? Obviously blowing smoke in someones face is unacceptable but really if you've got an issue with someone smoking in your vicinity you could just move further away, why should they put out their ciggy when you are the one who has the problem.

I am pie

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

No offence but could you not just move further away? Obviously blowing smoke in someones face is unacceptable but really if you've got an issue with someone smoking in your vicinity you could just move further away, why should they put out their ciggy when you are the one who has the problem.

If they really are blowing smoke directly into the little girls face, that is a pretty miserable thing to do. No need. The human head moves in many directions! ...easier not to blow smoke at the little girl than to blow it at her.

On the other hand, if the little girl is just near someone who is smoking and occasionally some blows in her direction then it's a bit precious to start giving out.

Bit of balance required.

Ms. Pingui

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

No offence but could you not just move further away? Obviously blowing smoke in someones face is unacceptable but really if you've got an issue with someone smoking in your vicinity you could just move further away, why should they put out their ciggy when you are the one who has the problem.

If I'm in a crowd or a queue there usually isn't much room for moving away. I'd put up with it myself, but I don't want my toddler breathing in the stuff.

I don't ask them to put it out, just hold it in front of their own face rather than mine.

Mav11

simply simple wrote: »

ya, so would you ask someone to stop smoking when you are in a queue and dont like the smoke right onto your face , specially if you are a non smoker?

Why stop there? What about if you're in the same queue and someone is wearing obnoxious perfume or aftershave? Would you ask that person to stop using it? Or would you just move a safe distance away???

Pumpkinseeds

Ms. Pingui wrote: »

If I'm in a crowd or a queue there usually isn't much room for moving away. I'd put up with it myself, but I don't want my toddler breathing in the stuff.

I don't ask them to put it out, just hold it in front of their own face rather than mine.

I can appreciate where you're coming from.

Pumpkinseeds

Mav11 wrote: »

Why stop there? What about if you're in the same queue and someone is wearing obnoxious perfume or aftershave? Would you ask that person to stop using it? Or would you just move a safe distance away???

Christ, I think some of those perfumes like Poison for example would kill you faster than ciggys ever would. I've to try not to breathe whenever I pass someone wearing it.

Depp

you can ask all you want, as long as I'm outside I'm legally entitled to enjoy a cigarette, I'd usually try to blow the smoke away from people and if I happened to blow it in someones direction I'd apologize but if i was asked to put it out the person would be politely told to eff off...

looking_around

tried.. got an asshole who said, "I'm outside, fcuk off" .. so that was that ..:/

Mav11

Depp wrote: »

you can ask all you want, as long as I'm outside I'm legally entitled to enjoy a cigarette, I'd usually try to blow the smoke away from people and if I happened to blow it in someones direction I'd apologize but if i was asked to put it out the person would be politely told to eff off...

Pity people don't smoke pipes anymore, the smell of pipe tobacco was gorgeous!

wonderfulname

Unless you have chosen to be in close proximity to me smoking you won't have the opportunity to ask, I intentionally smoke away from people so as not to bug them, unless it's pissing rain in which case i ask before lighting up. My biggest annoyance is when I'm trying to enjoy a smoke and someone needlessly positions their children in my vicinity, it actually annoys me more if they don't look at me like I'm in the wrong, that means they see no issue with subjecting the child to it.

Synyster Shadow

If I was in a cue with my 2 month old baby and there was someone smoking around him and it was blowing into his buggy then I'd politely ask them to blow it the other way

B.A._Baracus

Ever since the smoking ban came in, there really isnt alot of valid situations of smoking bothering another person.

What I mean by that is that smokers smoke outside now. Long gone are the days were you could be sitting in a pub or cinema and subjected to smoke. If someone is smoking and that is blowing your way? you simply move yourself two feet away.

Polka_Dot

Was queuing for an event once, got there early as it was a first come first served type thing so I was queuing for about 2 and a half hours. In that space of time the woman in front of me smoked five cigarettes. The first few I could put up with but by the fifth I was almost getting sick. I wanted to say something but didn't as I couldn't think of a decent way to say it. I do think it is inconsiderate though, just because you're outdoors doesn't mean it doesn't still reek/make it hard to breathe for others. If you're in close proximity it's just as bad as being close indoors IMO.

Pumpkinseeds

Mav11 wrote: »

Pity people don't smoke pipes anymore, the smell of pipe tobacco was gorgeous!

Ah no, don't remind me of pipe smoke. Mr P gave up smoking a few years back but assures me he's going to take up smoking either a pipe or cigars when he eventually retires. Apparently the choice is mine. I'd rather he didn't do either. But if he insists on smoking I'd rather it were cigars. I don't think I could cope with a pipe.

mightdomighty

Only if I hadn'd finished yet.... nothing puts me off more than a post-orgasmic lady blowing smoke in my face while I'm on the edge

Straight Talking Online Frank

The whole anti-smoking thing has gone a bit extreme, nowadays people think they'll wake up with lung cancer if they are within 10 meters of a smoker, these are the same people who live in crowded cities and breath in polluted air all day long but this never seems to be an issue.

Ficheall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr8Jw-VYflY

the_syco

simply simple wrote: »

ya, so would you ask someone to stop smoking when you are in a queue and dont like the smoke right onto your face , specially if you are a non smoker?

If behind the smoker; join another queue. If in front of the smoker; how's it going into your face?

simply simple

all those who cry that there are many other kinds of pollution around us which goes unnoticed- for instance one mentioned passing by car, it has its valuable benefit too- to save time of our journey, easy accessibility etc. Mention just one benefit of smoking?

simply simple

the_syco wrote: »

If behind the smoker; join another queue. If in front of the smoker; how's it going into your face?

seems like either you never stood in a queue with smoker behind you or else you are a smoker who never really cared where the smoke is off to. wind direction contributes to smoke going front or back

jaffacakesyum

I wouldn't ask because it's a free country - if they're legally allowed to smoke than I can't stop them.

Doesn't stop them being a selfish douchebag but I wouldn't ask them to stop.

simply simple

Mav11 wrote: »

Why stop there? What about if you're in the same queue and someone is wearing obnoxious perfume or aftershave? Would you ask that person to stop using it? Or would you just move a safe distance away???

Any proof of people suffering from perfumes like they suffer from smoke of cigarettes? (of course, except you- a living victim )

B.A._Baracus

simply simple wrote: »

all those who cry that there are many other kinds of pollution around us which goes unnoticed- for instance one mentioned passing by car, it has its valuable benefit too- to save time of our journey, easy accessibility etc. Mention just one benefit of smoking?

simply simple wrote: »

seems like either you never stood in a queue with smoker behind you or else you are a smoker who never really cared where the smoke is off to. wind direction contributes to smoke going front or back

You've got a hard on for smokers, right?

simply simple

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

You've got a hard on for smokers, right?

I am just surprised how people ignore their own as well as others health? So my answer would be YES.

Boombastic

What's worse is all the non smokers taking up space in the beer garden, I'm going to start asking them to move along.

B.A._Baracus

simply simple wrote: »

I am just surprised how people ignore their own as well as others health? So my answer would be YES.

and who are you to tell people how to live their life? if some dude wants to drink every night or eat 50 takeaways a week or SMOKE ... who are you?
Now you can come back with your bull**** "well, when it effects me" line all you want. Fact is smoking ban has stopped non smokers having to be subjected to smoke. You just hate smoking. But that's not good enough. You want others to share that pet hate. How dare they do what they want with their own body, right?

Roger_007

Straight Talking Online Frank wrote: »

The whole anti-smoking thing has gone a bit extreme, nowadays people think they'll wake up with lung cancer if they are within 10 meters of a smoker, these are the same people who live in crowded cities and breath in polluted air all day long but this never seems to be an issue.

Couldn't agree more. I smoke the e-cigs for the past 2 years. I was verbally abused about two months ago at a Luas-stop by a woman who was at least 5 stone overweight. She told me in colourful language,(accused me of being an f**king inconsiderate moron), that I was damaging her health. I replied that the fact that she was a greedy pig was damaging he health even more.......love at first sight it was not.:p

JustAThought

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

...How dare they do what they want with their own body, right?

Problem is smoking is dirty; smells awful & the smoke gets into people's hair, clothes, etc & is disgusting. It lingers long after the smoker has gone. O - and of course it also contains Chemicals that poison the air we all have to share & breathe, and causes cancer, triggers reactions in those with asthma, lung infections,low immune systems such as cancer recovery patients etc.

So yes - I wouldn't have a problem asking them to put it out ; or if they were ahead of me to let me in front of them so their smoke didn't get in my hair/cothes etc.

The acknowledgement of why it is bad, antisocial, unhealthy etc is stamped in the pack of each box you buy. You make the decision to ruin your health & the health & happiness of your " loved ones" or family when you're in hospital or dying of smoke related diseases. Other people don't have to put up with it. So - no problem with them telling you - again . Message isn't getting through .

Re Children & smoking - the reason why the government this year made smoking in & around playgrounds illegal is for exactly these same reasons - smokers don't care about their health or the health of those, including children, around them. So they created laws to protect people, and children, from their selfishness & dirt, disease causing habbits.

simply simple

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

and who are you to tell people how to live their life? if some dude wants to drink every night or eat 50 takeaways a week or SMOKE ... who are you?
Now you can come back with your bull**** "well, when it effects me" line all you want. Fact is smoking ban has stopped non smokers having to be subjected to smoke. You just hate smoking. But that's not good enough. You want others to share that pet hate. How dare they do what they want with their own body, right?

I never mentioned that anywhere in any of my post that they should not smoke, hold your horses please, you raised a supreme conclusion out of no where, read my mind so I expressed my mind :rolleyes: Even where I replied to your analysis I did not mention that they have to stop smoking.

BNMC

JustAThought wrote: »

Problem is smoking is dirty; smells awful & the smoke gets into people's hair, clother etc & is disgusting. It lingers long after the smoker has gone. O - and of course it also contains Chetniks that poison the air we all have to share & breathe, and causes cancer, triggers reactions in those with asthma, lung infections etc.

So yes - I wouldn't have a problem asking them to out it out ; or if they were ahead of me to let me in front of them so their smoke didn't get in my hair/cothes etc.

The acknowledgement of why it is bad, antisocial, unhealthy etc is stamped in the pack of each box you buy. You make the decision to ruin your health & the health & happiness of your " loved ones" or family when you're in hospital or dying of smoke related diseases. Other people don't have to put up with it.

Re Children & smoking the reason why the government this year made smoking in & around playgrounds illegal is for exactly these same reasons - smokers don't care about their health or the health of those, including children, around them. So they created laws to protect people, and children, from their selfishness .

If the government gave enough of a shit about your precious kids they would ban smoking altogether but that would mean losing hundreds of millions of euro in tax.

So, to some up, the government care more about money than your off spring.

JustAThought

I don't have any.

They care Enough to change the laws to stop dirty inconsiderate smokers infecting their lungs.

One of their few solid sales points.