Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain

DarkJager

Konami has released an extended trailer for MGS V - this might just be the single most epic trailer I have ever seen for a video game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ8TZ4fRxFw

Genghiz Cohen

The torture scenes disturb me greatly.
I can watch any kind of gross medical procedure or accident and not flinch. But intentional harm always makes me kinda uncomfortable.

Especially women, I have no idea why. In games where at all possible I will knock out or avoid women enemies and plow straight through men.
That scene with the wind up box got to me.

And if just the trailer can do that to me then I am really looking forward to the game.

Gunmonkey

Kojima said he was going to try make the MGS games more gruesome and adult...and succeeded. That scene where they are removing the bomb...jesus.

Also interested by them showing the child soldiers, possibly the plot will fold in elements of how people and kids are dragged into wars they dont want to fight, and would they try dare have them in actual gameplay? Could imagine the red-top headlines condemning the game already. At least MGS isnt shying away from the notion that everyone who fights in wars isnt always A) aged 20-35 and doing it as a career option.

Also a fan theory

The blonde kid is Liquid from MGS, in this time frame he is meant to be around 12 and not much is know of his early days before joining the SAS

K.O.Kiki

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

The torture scenes disturb me greatly.
I can watch any kind of gross medical procedure or accident and not flinch. But intentional harm always makes me kinda uncomfortable.

Especially women, I have no idea why. In games where at all possible I will knock out or avoid women enemies and plow straight through men.
That scene with the wind up box got to me.

And if just the trailer can do that to me then I am really looking forward to the game.

I'm very certain that is the intention -- try to really drive into the player just how nasty and dirty warfare truly is.

I hope Kojima holds back on the silliness so at least some of the COD generation get turned off by war.

Captain Chaos

Gunmonkey wrote: »

Also a fan theory

The blonde kid is Liquid from MGS, in this time frame he is meant to be around 12 and not much is know of his early days before joining the SAS

But didn't Liquid fight in Gulf War 1 in '91, this game is set in '84. I thought the blond kid was a young Raiden, wasn't he a child soldier at 14 or something like that?

LuckyFinigan

Gunmonkey wrote: »

Also a fan theory

The blonde kid is Liquid from MGS, in this time frame he is meant to be around 12 and not much is know of his early days before joining the SAS

I was thinking he could possibly be Grey Fox since he was a child solider that Big Boss rescued.

Pushtrak

I already saw the shorter one, and tbh, I've rewatched it multiple times. I am very, very impressed. I'm not going to bother watching the extended one, and I'll try not to watch the other one... At least not much. I mean, I try to have a philosophy of if a game is already a guaranteed buy to me, why watch more of it? Just wait, play it and enjoy it that way. If this was a day one release with the consoles, I'd find it very hard to resiste jumping on to the next gen from day one. I have lots of gaming stuff from this gen to catch up on, but I think in that scenario I'd cave and just to back to what I didn't get to before next gen after MGS 5.

Burgo

Grey fox was a teenager during portable ops so it cant be him.

maximoose

What a terrible song.

krudler

Am I the only person that thinks this looks completely meh? the landscape of Red Dead meets the feerunning of Assassins Creed meets the hiding in the shadows of Splinter Cell meets the open world of Just Cause with some godawful song lyrics and horrible dialogue and political messages about as subtle as a sledgehammer to the face (wouldnt be MGS without those :pac: ) graphics are fantastic though.

Captain Chaos

I think it looks amazing and hands down the best MGS yet. I was nearly gone after MGS4 but this has my interest and I'm excited for this title. It looks darker, grittier and more adult. You can see it's going to touch on a lot of controversial themes.

MadYaker

Any chance of this coming to PC considering the hardware similarities between PCs and the new consoles?

I wonder would the Japanese version have subtitles. Kiefer Sutherland sounds so out of place!
It looks great and I want to play it but I don't want to listen to jack bauer yapping away through a few hours of cut scenes.

Razleavy

Just something to note, this was run on a PC, but they have said that the graphics will be very similar on consoles.

jill_valentine

Good to see MGS is retaining its reputation for military accuracy with the inclusion of the seldom acknowledged Tactical Bikini.

DarkJager

maximoose wrote: »

What a terrible song.

I kind of like it, it's got that Snake Eater cheesiness to it but with more James Bond style bombast. Hope there's a mile long ladder to climb up with it playing in the background

Captain Chaos

jill_valentine wrote: »

Good to see MGS is retaining its reputation for military accuracy.

Speaking of which I am convinced I saw a Stryker ICV during the gameplay demo and this game is set in 1984, also one of the ARs Snake is holding in a screen shot shows with a picatinny rail with removable iron sights. Uh oh.

Azza

MadYaker wrote:

Any chance of this coming to PC considering the hardware similarities between PCs and the new consoles?

Kojima was asked that in an interview with gametrailers. He responded with.

Hideo Kojima wrote:

Of course we are developing on a PC, so we look forward to releasing something on the PC sometime, but right now we have no release date, we are not really looking to do that right now, that’s not a priority, so, we are making it and we hope to put it out [on PC] as well.

So that's a maybe, but if it is released on PC it will be after the console versions.

jill_valentine

Incidentally, is everybody in this game in some way bockety? All peggy legs and hooky hands, is it?

It just... it conjures images of a certain scene in South Park, and the fact that my brain makes this association does not make me feel very good about myself.

Mark Hamill

jill_valentine wrote: »

Incidentally, is everybody in this game in some way bockety? All peggy legs and hooky hands, is it?

Probably. I imagine thats why its called "MGS V: The Phantom Pain", phantom pain being to the pain amputees (or people with birth defects) can feel in limbs they don't have.

jill_valentine

Mark Hamill wrote: »

Probably. I imagine thats why its called "MGS V: The Phantom Pain", phantom pain being to the pain amputees (or people with birth defects) can feel in limbs they don't have.

One or two amputees, sure, but gosh, there just seems to be an awful raft of unfortunates in this altogether.

cherryghost

Dev confirmed for PC but no release date yet.

Azza

cherryghost wrote:

Dev confirmed for PC but no release date yet.

Link?

Skerries

well it's on this list

Pushtrak

Here: http://www.gamezone.com/news/2013/06/12/metal-gear-solid-5-will-be-making-it-to-pc-eventually

Burky126

Heard a rumour of this a few months back but it is confirmed - Kojima is reducing cutscenes for mgs V!

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2013/06/12/e3-2013-metal-gear-solid-5-the-phantom-pain-like-a-tv-series

"I'm sure you're worried about if the cutscenes are as long as Metal Gear Solid 4," Kojima said during an E3 roundtable. "Since this time around we're using an open world environment," Metal Gear Solid V will have "less cutscenes [than before]." Because you'll be exploring, you'll have fewer opportunities to run into a cutscene that takes control away.

Captain Chaos

I thought MGS5 looked very impressive but it's going to look better when released.

Metal Gear Solid V on Xbox One and PS4 will look better than E3 trailer

"Once we start going into development for next-generation we're definitely looking for something better than [what] we have shown today," concluded Kojima.

http://uk.gamespot.com/e3/metal-gear-solid-v-on-xbox-one-and-ps4-will-look-better-than-e3-trailer-6410187/

Wow:eek: Can't wait to see what these consoles can do in a few years time.
Look at how PGR3 looked in 2005 on the 360, it was amazing at the time, then Forza 4 on the same system 6 years later.

C14N

Very interested in this, I love the other games in the series and their utterly stupid, convoluted story. This game looks quite different to previous entries too.

Pushtrak

Just in case people were wondering, Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain are the one game: http://www.examiner.com/article/new-metal-gear-solid-5-details-ground-zeroes-phantom-pain-are-one-game

Kojima is looking for a studio to do a remake of the first MGS in the Fox Engine (same one as MGS V... This really isn't enough to justify opening a new thread, tbh. When there are new details it'll be worth starting a new thread on it): http://ie.ign.com/articles/2013/06/25/kojima-seeking-studio-to-remake-metal-gear-solid-in-fox-engine

jill_valentine

I think Kojima is trying to play down the sense of pretension he gets a lot of flack for with this one, but then he goes and has Himself labelled "Punished Snake". Bible references don't bode well...

Wow a remake of the original mgs would be amazing

GosuIrish

the MGS remake with fox engine was just mis-translation , there not currently looking for anyone to do it

Otacon

GosuIrish wrote: »

the MGS remake with fox engine was just mis-translation , there not currently looking for anyone to do it

/puts fingers in ears

LA LA LA
I can't wait for a Fox Engine version of MGS. Get JustAddWater to do it NOW!
LA LA LA

GosuIrish

Otacon wrote: »

/puts fingers in ears

LA LA LA
I can't wait for a Fox Engine version of MGS. Get JustAddWater to do it NOW!
LA LA LA

He said if there's a team with passion and love for mgs he would love from them to do it but there not currently looking for a team but still hope ^_^

K.O.Kiki

A faithful remake with less of Twin Snakes' zany antics could be good alright.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP29E9MljaE

:pac:

DeeMuS

That trailer looks unreal, Has anyone got a period for release of MGS V ? and according to Wikipedia its being released on XBOX? that's a first!

Otacon

DeeMuS wrote: »

That trailer looks unreal, Has anyone got a period for release of MGS V ?

Not yet. Though I think it will drop around Oct-Nov next year.

DeeMuS wrote: »

and according to Wikipedia its being released on XBOX? that's a first!

Not really. The recent HD collection, and Metal Gear Rising came out on the 360.

DeeMuS

Otacon wrote: »

Not yet. Though I think it will drop around Oct-Nov next year.



Not really. The recent HD collection, and Metal Gear Rising came out on the 360.

Yeh sorry my bad didn't see the HD release platforms Im just so used to MGS being a PlayStation exclusive, although working for Microsoft and been a PS user I can't say s**t..

Sweet original username to Otacon, wonder is Ocelot taken?

DeeMuS

Or Solidus, MGS probably had the best and most unique array of characters, Grey Fox being the best in my opinion!

Pushtrak

DeeMuS wrote: »

That trailer looks unreal, Has anyone got a period for release of MGS V ? and according to Wikipedia its being released on XBOX? that's a first!

Metal Gear Solid 2 was released on the original xbox. You did say Xbox there, but the cube had the twin snakes.

MadYaker

Isn't phantom pain when amputees get pains in a limb that isn't there anymore? Interesting choice of title.

Genghiz Cohen

MadYaker wrote: »

Isn't phantom pain when amputees get pains in a limb that isn't there anymore? Interesting choice of title.

We see in the trailers that Snake is missing a hand and there is monologue about the pain of the missing limb.

wandatowell

Is there anywhere where I can read up on the entire MGS back story?


Trailor looks fantastic

RobertFoster

wandatowell wrote: »

Is there anywhere where I can read up on the entire MGS back story?


Trailor looks fantastic

http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_Wiki

Be warned, it's dense. See you again around Christmas

wandatowell

RobertFoster wrote: »

http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_Wiki

Be warned, it's dense. See you again around Christmas

Sound!


Mother of god, thats a big read lol

GTR63

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/264527/features/metal-gear-solid-the-definitive-chronology/
This is a wee bit old but gives the basics.

_oveless_

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

C14N

wandatowell wrote: »

Is there anywhere where I can read up on the entire MGS back story?


Trailor looks fantastic

That's the kind of thing that's incredibly hard to read up on without playing the games. I'd recommend playing them or watching a walk-through and then reading up on it. The Gametrailers Retrospective is also a decent way of getting an overview of the story:

http://www.gametrailers.com/full-episodes/s8rb6y/gt-retrospectives-part-one

snausages

If you just want the jist of it then play Snake Eater on the HD collection and maybe try to watch a playthrough of Peacewalker. You'll have all the necessary backstory then. But if you're really interested then play them all in numeric order (1>2>3>4>PW). It's likely that this new game will have links with and foreshadow major events in MGS1.

C14N

snausages wrote: »

If you just want the jist of it then play Snake Eater on the HD collection and maybe try to watch a playthrough of Peacewalker. You'll have all the necessary backstory then. But if you're really interested then play them all in numeric order (1>2>3>4>PW). It's likely that this new game will have links with and foreshadow major events in MGS1.

Why Peacewalker? It's one of the least consequential games in the series.

Xenji