Scott Quigg

Dick phelan

What the hell is going on with quigg he hasnt fought since Monroe and i havent heard anything about a next fight, heard he was unhappy with Hatton, like it seems like he is being put on the shelf when you consider all the stuff around frampton quigg really has stagnated since monroe anyone know whats going on ?

Big Ears

Funny you mention him. He's expected him to sign with Matchroom over the next few days,and his career will probably take off from there.

Him and Carl will never happen imo btw.

Dick phelan

Big Ears wrote: »

Funny you mention him. He's expected him to sign with Matchroom over the next few days,and his career will probably take off from there.

Him and Carl will never happen imo btw.

Yes it wouldnt suprise me if he did sign with matchroom cant blame the lad hatton hasnt brought him anywhere or anything i really like ricky as a guy but he doesnt offer anything of note from a promotional sense to fighters, i wouldn't say never between him and Carl although i would be fair less confident about it happening since carl has left Matchroom, shame if it doesnt its a fight everyone wants to see

unknown13

Matchroom announcing huge signing tomorrow and Quigg is very strongly rumoured. He could potentially fight on Matchroom's Bolton show in a few weeks, if it is him signing.

I agree with Big Ears aswell. Quigg / Frampton is not going to happen. If the rumors are true then it makes the chances of the fight even less likely. Hearn is not going to work with Mc Guigan anytime soon. I think Frampton is going to see his career starting to stall soon enough also with Warrens recent record.

el flaco

Carl Frampton keeps banging on on Twitter about 'footage of his fights' being on terrestrial TV but makes no mention of where? Has anyone else heard anything about this? Nobody can get a straight answer out of the lad on Twitter.

Maybe RTE news get to show photographs of his ring entrance or something......

EireIceMan

He said terrestial tv in Ireland 2hrs ago on twitter...

el flaco

EireIceMan wrote: »

He said terrestial tv in Ireland 2hrs ago on twitter...

Yeah, but RTE? TV3? TG4? Highlights? Full fight? Same day tape delay? One week later? Section on the the 11.30pm news headlines?

I just find his statement a bit bizarre. It was a direct dig at Eddie Hearn and Scott Quigg but nobody seems to know any details of the TV arrangement, which makes it harder for people to be jealous (or happy).
Given that management and promotion was the nub of the whole switch to begin with it seems like poor management/promotion to say that you'll be on TV but not tell people any of the details.

Dick phelan

So they signed quigg anyway good move for Scott and suppose for matchroom its a guy to try replace frampton, quigg not the big seller and attraction that frampton is or has the potential to be tbh the division is so strong atm i dont think Quigg will be at the top of the division any time soon

unknown13

Dick phelan wrote: »

So they signed quigg anyway good move for Scott and suppose for matchroom its a guy to try replace frampton, quigg not the big seller and attraction that frampton is or has the potential to be tbh the division is so strong atm i dont think Quigg will be at the top of the division any time soon

He might not be in his own right but Matchroom have some big sellers from that area in their stable. Bellew, Stalker and Fielding are big sellers from that region.

They may put him headlining shows in Liverpool or Bolton with one of those names on the card and it doesn't help the MEN is the biggest arena in the UK aswell.

Dick phelan

unknown13 wrote: »

He might not be in his own right but Matchroom have some big sellers from that area in their stable. Bellew, Stalker and Fielding are big sellers from that region.

They may put him headlining shows in Liverpool or Bolton with one of those names on the card and it doesn't help the MEN is the biggest arena in the UK aswell.

Fair point Eddie is better at packing arena's then Warren still despite the change in promotion it wont change the fact that Frampton can sell 9000 or 10000 tickets and i have no dought he would pack the o2 if he fights down south the guy has major major following for a guy who hasnt even fought at world level yet

Johner

Quigg and Frampton are well matched, not alot between them. Don't think either of them would win a world title at the moment though.

unknown13

Dick phelan wrote: »

Fair point Eddie is better at packing arena's then Warren still despite the change in promotion it wont change the fact that Frampton can sell 9000 or 10000 tickets and i have no dought he would pack the o2 if he fights down south the guy has major major following for a guy who hasnt even fought at world level yet

I disagree here. Frampton hasn't been on rte, he has not got much of a name down here. He fought in Belfast but he had Mc Closkey, Fitzgerald and Lee to back him up on the bill. He wouldn't be able to half fill the 02 on his own. He would a need a big undercard of fighters from the Republic.

Willie Casey couldn't fill out the Citywest, when he fought Rigondeux and was on RTE headlining a show in the fight previous against Paulie Hyland down in Limerick.

Frank Gallagher pissed

i dont think McGuigan is upto it, its just greed trying to be part trainer, manager and promoter and its not in the fighters best interest, especially the way Frampton idolises McGuigan.

Remember McGuigan the man that brought us Flintoffs fight , which was blatantly fixed, which shamed the sport. Its hard not to see this is all about £££ to Barry.

Scott Quigg will certainly benefit from this hugely.

unknown13

Also, it should be noted with Quigg. Kugan Cassius did his interview with Eddie Hearn today and asked him about the Frampton fight. Eddie Hearn said it is very far away, i think he said its the furthest is has ever been. He said both fighters have different agendas and routes and so the fight is not happening anytime soon.

Frank Gallagher pissed

I've just listened to that 30 minute Hearn interview. To my mind it sounds as if McGuigan thought hes being the big shot and taking over as promoter aswell as manager/part trainer. His exact words were:


"He's not a promoter, I'm not a dentist, so I don't bowl into the surgery and start trying to perform root canal"

I lolled at that one. Quigg is going to get a world title shot soon. Frampton we'll have to wait and see. Also sounds like Hearns determined to have Quigg at the top now the McGuigans and Frampton are digging him out on twitter.

Larsso30

unknown13 wrote: »

I disagree here. Frampton hasn't been on rte, he has not got much of a name down here. He fought in Belfast but he had Mc Closkey, Fitzgerald and Lee to back him up on the bill. He wouldn't be able to half fill the 02 on his own. He would a need a big undercard of fighters from the Republic.

Willie Casey couldn't fill out the Citywest, when he fought Rigondeux and was on RTE headlining a show in the fight previous against Paulie Hyland down in Limerick.

i would put money down he doesnt pack the o2 in dublin, id be absolutly astounded if he did. be lucky to get 5k i reckon

Dick phelan

unknown13 wrote: »

I disagree here. Frampton hasn't been on rte, he has not got much of a name down here. He fought in Belfast but he had Mc Closkey, Fitzgerald and Lee to back him up on the bill. He wouldn't be able to half fill the 02 on his own. He would a need a big undercard of fighters from the Republic.

Willie Casey couldn't fill out the Citywest, when he fought Rigondeux and was on RTE headlining a show in the fight previous against Paulie Hyland down in Limerick.

Ok but just going from all my mates who are casual fans they all know and follow Carl frampton they rarely watch boxing but if frampton is fighting they make sure to watch it, maybe thats just my experience but i thought a lot of casuals in the republic know the name Carl Frampton

el flaco

It seems Frank Warren has made an offer for Frampton to face Quigg and Eddie Hearn turned it down. Nice move by Warren. Even if he felt it probably wouldn't be accepted it puts the ball back in Matchroom's court.

http://asia.eurosport.com/boxing/warren-hearn-has-turned-down-froch-cleverly-quigg-frampton_sto3801038/story.shtml

unknown13

el flaco wrote: »

It seems Frank Warren has made an offer for Frampton to face Quigg and Eddie Hearn turned it down. Nice move by Warren. Even if he felt it probably wouldn't be accepted it puts the ball back in Matchroom's court.

http://asia.eurosport.com/boxing/warren-hearn-has-turned-down-froch-cleverly-quigg-frampton_sto3801038/story.shtml

How many times has warren played this card. He only recently did it with Froch / Cleverly.

Big Ears

el flaco wrote: »

It seems Frank Warren has made an offer for Frampton to face Quigg and Eddie Hearn turned it down. Nice move by Warren. Even if he felt it probably wouldn't be accepted it puts the ball back in Matchroom's court.

http://asia.eurosport.com/boxing/warren-hearn-has-turned-down-froch-cleverly-quigg-frampton_sto3801038/story.shtml

No 'offer' from Warren can ever come at face value. You can bet they'll be more stipulations, options and all sorts of shenanigans going on with any offer Warren makes that isn't accepted and he then publicises, they are a media tool.

On top of this fighters and promoters will have become worried recently about actually getting their money should they accept an offer.

el flaco

Big Ears wrote: »

No 'offer' from Warren can ever come at face value. You can bet they'll be more stipulations, options and all sorts of shenanigans going on with any offer Warren makes that isn't accepted and he then publicises, they are a media tool.

On top of this fighters and promoters will have become worried recently about actually getting their money should they accept an offer.

Yeah true, but that's the game. He's definitely not the only one doing it. It's up to Matchroom to point out the obvious financial (or otherwise) flaws in his proposal. If they can't then it reflects on their lack of confidence in Quigg beating Frampton. Given that Hearn said Quigg needs Frampton rather than the other way round it would make sense that he should take the fight, or Hearn will be back-tracking on his statement. Again, that's the game and things are said which promoters and fighters don't necessarily believe. I like the one-upmanship in boxing and seeing people eat their words. In a situation where it was widely believed that the poor relationship between rival promoters would be the stumbling block to such a matchup it's good to see someone actually get the ball rolling and Frampton has declared his interest in the fight too. It's a good matchup which should happen, but probably won't. No doubt we will receive some blurb about taking some other path in order to fight for a world title, 'bigger ambitions' etc. etc.

There is always the worry about getting paid. Fighters get injured, tickets don't sell, cards get pulled. This would be a big matchup though and if it was to take place in Belfast there is a much reduced chance of the card falling through because there would be a huge interest from the public. Warren would drop the ultimate clanger if such a card was to fall through for anything other than an unfortunate injury.

el flaco

Eddie Hearn talking about the whole Frampton/Quigg situation, his reaction to Warrens offer for them to fight and how Frampton's fights didn't do particularly well in the TV ratings compared to the other shows.
While he's suggesting that the fight could still happen it sounds like he'd like both men to be mega world champions before they meet up.
I'm a bit puzzled by his claims about Frampton not committing to Matchroom by only signing one-fight deals, whereas before he was talking about how positive it was that boxers weren't tied down to long-term contracts with with him like they are with other promoters.

All in all, it was interesting to hear his perspective.

http://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-explains-warrens-quigg-frampton-offer-more--66600