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what the hell is with websites only doing apps now

  • 11-06-2013 6:45pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭


    and not having a little program you can download to a laptop like before, not everyone wants a ****in smartphone ffs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    IM0 wrote: »
    and not having a little program you can download to a laptop like before, not everyone wants a ****in smartphone ffs

    And not all smartphones support them.

    :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Let's laugh at the OP for not having a smartphone. What is this, 2005?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    MadsL wrote: »
    Let's laugh at the OP for not having a smartphone. What is this, 2005?

    no ill laugh at you for not having a life outside of a phone


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    IM0 wrote: »
    and not having a little program you can download to a laptop like before, not everyone wants a ****in smartphone ffs

    You're in a small minority that's why
    irish-stew wrote: »
    And not all smartphones support them.

    :mad:

    Well..if you bought a 'smartphone' that isn't an Android, iPhone or a Windows phone, it was never really going to have a big app store anyway. I'm aware Windows Store isn't as good as the others but slowly clawing back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    What websites do that?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    Nimrod 7 wrote: »
    You're in a small minority that's why

    bastards :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    What websites do that?

    Ive noticed a few, but the latest one was from another thread. esb calculator thing

    https://www.electricireland.ie/ei/residential-energy-services/reduce-your-costs/smartphone-calculator.jsp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,072 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    What websites do that?

    thejournal.ie are worst for it. They aggressively push the app on those browsing from a phone. I've stopped visiting it completely as a result of that and the seemingly endless stupefying slideshows of nonsense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    IM0 wrote: »
    Ive noticed a few, but the latest one was from another thread. esb calculator thing

    https://www.electricireland.ie/ei/residential-energy-services/reduce-your-costs/smartphone-calculator.jsp
    Yeah, but that's an app. And anyway, by not having a smartphone you have already reduced your costs more than any savings by using that app would get you. So the app is sh1ite and you don't need it anyway.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    What ever happened to HTML5?

    It was gonna solve all these problems, make everything look the same in every browser, let developers do even cooler stuff than Flash and Silverlight....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Grindr, OP?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    UCDVet wrote: »
    What ever happened to HTML5?

    It was gonna solve all these problems, make everything look the same in every browser, let developers do even cooler stuff than Flash and Silverlight....

    ha thought I missed something, was reading something the other day and though "HTML5 when did that come in?" turns out it never quite made it from what you ask!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    MadsL wrote: »
    Grindr, OP?

    why are you shilling the app you use to find other gays


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    IM0 wrote: »
    Ive noticed a few, but the latest one was from another thread. esb calculator thing

    https://www.electricireland.ie/ei/residential-energy-services/reduce-your-costs/smartphone-calculator.jsp

    There is a web calculator available..

    https://www.electricireland.ie/ei/residential-energy-services/reduce-your-costs/web-calculator.jsp

    You can use the web calculator on your PC or you can use the app on your phone because it's much harder to use the web calculator on a phone.

    That's really how most apps work, you can go to rte.ie/player on your PC or you can download the app on your phone. You can use the browser version on your phone but it's really difficult so they made an app.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    thejournal.ie are worst for it. They aggressively push the app on those browsing from a phone. I've stopped visiting it completely as a result of that and the seemingly endless stupefying slideshows of nonsense.
    I tend to avoid links to it now too. Sick to death of insisting that I want to see the website and not download their pointless app.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭JD DABA


    You can use a program called Bluestack, it simulates an android phone on your laptop...for apps from the google appstore.

    Its on download.com


    Just watch watch when installing cause they try to tag on a load of sh.it and reset your browser/homepage, usual lark.

    Also i think they're pretty ballsy on their privacy policy, but if you are as frustrated as I was... well I just said fck it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    gctest50 wrote: »

    is that like a virtual pc type thing, to be used to make a comp act like another different type? does it work for all apps you can download or just the ones it says it comes with?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 934 ✭✭✭OneOfThem Stumbled


    Give this a shot OP

    http://www.bluestacks.com/

    No seriously, dunno how well this works for Apps on a laptop; give it a shot and tell us if it goes well! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    IM0 wrote: »
    is that like a virtual pc type thing, to be used to make a comp act like another different type? does it work for all apps you can download or just the ones it says it comes with?

    It pretends to be an iPad so you can run ipad apps on your pc
    Seems to work with a few more that it comes with


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 892 ✭✭✭opti0nal


    IM0 wrote: »
    and not having a little program you can download to a laptop like before, not everyone wants a ****in smartphone ffs
    The apps are better than web pages from the point of view of the publisher as they can slurp your personal data (contacts, location, identity) and plant tracking cookies that you can't remove.

    So the publisher gets a lot of info about you and what you do/read and where you go.

    This can be sold on to marketeers who track you across multiple apps and try and sell you stuff based on observing your movements, online activities and self-profiling.

    In short, apps get around the privacy protections built into web browsers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    thejournal.ie are worst for it. They aggressively push the app on those browsing from a phone. I've stopped visiting it completely as a result of that and the seemingly endless stupefying slideshows of nonsense.

    Completely agree. Daft do it too. Fair enough, build and develop and "app" if you want, but stupid to force it on people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,189 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    thejournal.ie are worst for it. They aggressively push the app on those browsing from a phone. I've stopped visiting it completely as a result of that and the seemingly endless stupefying slideshows of nonsense.

    Daft are far worse - you download the app or you get nothing. Website version of the Soup Nazi.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Actually.. I was going to bring up something similar.

    Are programs no longer called programs? I started using Windows 8 for the first time recently and have noticed the fact that when shutting down and it encounters a program that is preventing it, they refer to it as an "app" instead of a program, which has been the case with every other version of Windows.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Are programs no longer called programs? I started using Windows 8 for the first time recently and have noticed the fact that when shutting down and it encounters a program that is preventing it, they refer to it as an "app" instead of a program, which has been the case with every other version of Windows.

    I'm guessing you haven't seen the new simplified task manager then either then.

    It's a bit stupid really, I want my computer to be a computer rather than a tablet OS installed into a computer. But when you look past the Metro UI and 'apps'..it is a lot better than W7 in most ways.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Nimrod 7 wrote: »
    I'm guessing you haven't seen the new simplified task manager then either then.

    It's a bit stupid really, I want my computer to be a computer rather than a tablet OS installed into a computer. But when you look past the Metro UI and 'apps'..it is a lot better than W7 in most ways.

    I don't get the need for the Start screen at all, at least not on a laptop. Yes, having those home icons on a tablet device or smart phone makes sense, but not so much with a full keyboard and mouse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Scruffles


    IM0 wrote: »
    Ive noticed a few, but the latest one was from another thread. esb calculator thing

    https://www.electricireland.ie/ei/residential-energy-services/reduce-your-costs/smartphone-calculator.jsp
    add to that a lot of these cloud based file hosts,grrrr bugger off with that iphone/ipad exclusive crap,in the amazing offchance one of them has found their way onto a proper computer ,the bstards always turn out to be windows only,surely itd be easier adapting IOS versions to work on linux given the close relation to UNIX from both sides?

    anyway,these app obsessed sites will reap what they sow,when some script kiddy hears of an easy exploit and screws their app [which ironicaly,there is a very good app for that,am not a blackhat btw].


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    IM0 wrote: »
    why are you shilling the app you use to find other gays

    Thanks for explaining the joke :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    MadsL wrote: »
    Thanks for explaining the joke :D

    and thanks for shilling my thread with gay apps, Im sure someone in here will contact you for a hook up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Well if you're lucky OP they will develop a Windows version of the app.

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/apps#Cat=t1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    I am surprised that websites, haven't gone the HTML 5 route instead. Instead of having to target different OS's they could just target the browsers, and use a lot of the same code, with tweaks for each platform (i would hope the tweaks would be minor, but I haven't done any web dev since college).


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,604 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    thejournal.ie are worst for it. They aggressively push the app on those browsing from a phone. I've stopped visiting it completely as a result of that and the seemingly endless stupefying slideshows of nonsense.
    firefox has an option to view the non-mobile version of a site.

    What really irks is the apps that do nothing more than viewing the site in a browser would do. At the very lest make sure your app caches the stuff for offline viewing.

    and then there is the whole security of badly written apps issue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Haha




    Posted from a smart phone


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