welger rp 12s/rp200

shanemc123

thinking of buying a welger rp 12 a or a welger rp 200.what horsepower do you need to drive them.what do I need to look for when buying one???will they bale wet silage after a conditioner mower??any info appreciated

jdta

Bought a rp200 new in 97 (no chopper), there bullet proof. Had a ts110 under it for years and was well able for it. Only traded it for a rp245 last year.

quietsailor

the rp-12 will be a very old machine by now, also they didn't handle contractor conditions (the one I worked with anyway) as well as the later welgers.

The RP220s were a very strong machine, they seemed to be able to take grass in at a ferocious rate as long as it was smooth swarths.

Pacoa

The rp12 would be twine only too i think. Who wants to go back to cuting twines in silage? Not me. I had a rp220 and they'd be the ones i recomend you get. They'll need 90hp+. The more the better. Good luck.

Sam Kade

An rp12 will choke in heavy crops and can be a hoor to clear some of them can be slow to start tying the bale. No problem taking off twines with a Stanley knife.

maidhc

Baled silage for years with an RP12s. It is slower than more modern machines, particularly with twine only. No problem with it taking crops mind.

Biggest fault with the 12s in my mind was the lack of greasable bearings. In practical terms it meant a lot of maintenance on the rollers, with 2 or 3 needed to be pulled each year. I woundn't bother with an RP200 or early model RP220 for the same reason alone.

shanemc123

Can you bale fast with a welter rp200/220.have a zetor 7745 turbo to drive one would it be good Enough??

farmerjohn

Could you change the narrow pick up on a welger rp 200 to a wide one?

Sam Kade

farmerjohn wrote: »

Could you change the narrow pick up on a welger rp 200 to a wide one?

You could the rp12 also had an optional wide pickup for straw, I don't know if it would work with silage though.

quietsailor

shanemc123 wrote: »

Can you bale fast with a welter rp200/220.have a zetor 7745 turbo to drive one would it be good Enough??

"Fast" is relative - to the tractor HP, to the condition of the field & swarth, even to the volume of the swarth, most of all to the ability of the driver. I worked with a fella who would bale hay in 4th-Hi-Hi in a Ford 7710. It was madness but we were all in our teens and early twenties and it was showing off as you do.

I've never seen any other driver replicate that though, not for long periods. Mind you that fella was averaging 500+ bales a day over 10 seasons, the experience levels get high quick at that level.

Maybe if you're hugely experienced at baling, are used to the machine already, know the fields well I'd say chance it, other than that - no. If you miss a beat and the pickup clogs you'll spend more time clearing the jam than you made up by driving fast. At that speed the jams are like concrete

pajero12

Sam Kade wrote: »

You could the rp12 also had an optional wide pickup for straw, I don't know if it would work with silage though.

Yeah It does with no problems atall

Sam Kade

pajero12 wrote: »

Yeah It does with no problems atall

Would it help prevent choking?

pajero12

To be honest I couldn't say, It's not a bad baler to take grass, Choking will depend on the row, But they will make a nice square bale with the wider reel.

Greengrass1

After buying bales Made by a rp200 I think -net Never seen such **** bales in all my life.
Sponge balls!!!
Op buy a krone 1250 we ran it with a case 4240 and made great bales which was 95hp I think

Sam Kade

Greengrass1 wrote: »

After buying bales Made by a rp200 I think -net Never seen such **** bales in all my life.
Sponge balls!!!
Op buy a krone 1250 we ran it with a case 4240 and made great bales which was 95hp I think

You can't judge a baler on one batch of bales, a lot depends on the crop, driver, swath's, speed. I've an RP12 and always make rock solid bales with it. The rp200 is a similar baler with a facelift.

Greengrass1

Sam Kade wrote: »

You can't judge a baler on one batch of bales, a lot depends on the crop, driver, swath's, speed. I've an RP12 and always make rock solid bales with it. The rp200 is a similar baler with a facelift.

Ahh any bales I've had misfortune of dealing with from a welger have never been great and dad would say the same too.
The new lely welger s make great bales alright

davidk1394

shanemc123 wrote: »

thinking of buying a welger rp 12 a or a welger rp 200.what horsepower do you need to drive them.what do I need to look for when buying one???will they bale wet silage after a conditioner mower??any info appreciated

We've a rp 220 farmer. Good simple straight forward machine with low maintenance. Driven by a 72hp case up to last year. Worked away the finest but we weren't chopping the silage

Sam Kade

davidk1394 wrote: »

We've a rp 220 farmer. Good simple straight forward machine with low maintenance. Driven by a 72hp case up to last year. Worked away the finest but we weren't chopping the silage

That was a good trial of the case I tried a ford 4600 with the rp12 and it failed badly.

davidk1394

Sam Kade wrote: »

That was a good trial of the case I tried a ford 4600 with the rp12 and it failed badly.

We have a case 1394 and it did 250 bales of wheat straw last tuesday i had to go off hauling with the claas. It is well able for it once you take your time. Tip away at about 12km/h once its on level enough ground

jimmy G M

What output of bales per hour would you do with that type of baler, say an rp200 with 100 ho upfront?

Sam Kade

jimmy G M wrote: »

What output of bales per hour would you do with that type of baler, say an rp200 with 100 ho upfront?

With the rp12 around 20 even though I managed 40 one time with dry haylage in a long narrow field.

jimmy G M

Sam Kade wrote: »

With the rp12 around 20 even though I managed 40 one time with dry haylage in a long narrow field.

Jez that seems low enough output so only 2-3 acres per hour

White Clover

jimmy G M wrote: »

Jez that seems low enough output so only 2-3 acres per hour

It was deadly output in its day ! If you had an rp12 on a MF 188 or a Ford 7600, you had right good gear !