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bad results vs winter test

  • 09-06-2013 11:53pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭


    Hope someone can throw some light here, my daughter is in 1st class and she got her results today, which I think were very disappointing to her winter test results. irish she has 98%vs.96, maths 70% vs. 98 and English she got 60% vs. 95 in winter test. I am just freaking out atm. If she was always like this I would have accepted. And she has excelled in irish to my surprise. We are foreign national and I thought she would struggle with irish but that’s not the case clearly. Can someone please throw some light that as a parent how can we help her and bring her back to where she was. One of the reason why it can be is she was not given enough notice by school as to when exams will be taken. I am too worried now and cant think how this has happened. Any advice pls.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭strawberrie


    The best thing you can do if you are worried is make an appointment to discuss your concerns with your daughters teacher. They will have insight into what was on the test, where your daughter lost marks and what areas she could work on in order to improve.
    aspasp1 wrote: »
    Hope someone can throw some light here, my daughter is in 1st class and she got her results today, which I think were very disappointing to her winter test results. irish she has 98%vs.96, maths 70% vs. 98 and English she got 60% vs. 95 in winter test. I am just freaking out atm. If she was always like this I would have accepted. And she has excelled in irish to my surprise. We are foreign national and I thought she would struggle with irish but that’s not the case clearly. Can someone please throw some light that as a parent how can we help her and bring her back to where she was. One of the reason why it can be is she was not given enough notice by school as to when exams will be taken. I am too worried now and cant think how this has happened. Any advice pls.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    If she already speaks 2 languages then a 3rd would most probably have been easy for her.
    DOn't be too hard on her stress can effect them even at that age but do go sit down with the teacher and discuss your worries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭mat cauthon


    Sweet holy moly!!
    Maybe she had a headache, or hadn't finished her breakfast, or had had a bad nights sleep the night before the English test??/
    The poor little mite!

    Leave her alone! Take her to the library, read with her, and talk to her in English.... she's grand!


    Those results are bloody good, and I wish my kids in primary got the same type of results!

    And tell me this, why on earth are they giving first class kids a percentage???
    What is this? A primary school aimed leaving cert?? What happened to the old reports where you only worried about your kid if he was being bold, or swinging the lead?

    That poor child has my sympathies, if her parents are in knots now, in first class... First Class!!... god help them when the state exams loom!

    Go talk to the teacher if you wish. She'll say your kid is grand, only on a bad day.

    And chillax!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    I was in primary school in the 80s and 90s and our grades were always based on what we got in the summer tests so nothing new there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭mat cauthon


    Yes, and if we like, we can go back to putting a child up a chimney or down a mine because he couldn't say his alphabet at age 5.

    If that's what we want for our kids.... write him off at age six, then fine.
    We can go there.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    *Sigh*, Mat, getting a bit tedious.Results of standardised tests must legally reported in 2nd/4th/6th and most schools choose to do them each year and send the results home then too.


    OP, the tests she did just recently are probably the standardised tests -"Drumcondra/Sigma-T/ Micra-T." Her scores are probably in percentiles, not in percentages. A child who scores on the 80th percentile is as good as or better than 80% of the population. Children do not get advance notice of these tests and it is not possible to "study" for them. The tests at Christmas were probably on particular topics they had done in the first term and can be as easy or difficult as the teacher sees fit, hence the need for standardised tests in English reading/maths/Irish where a national standard is set.

    I'd make an appointment with the teacher to ask ,just to be sure, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭aspasp1


    The best thing you can do if you are worried is make an appointment to discuss your concerns with your daughters teacher. They will have insight into what was on the test, where your daughter lost marks and what areas she could work on in order to improve.

    meeting tomorrow to see what help she can offer on how to improve....thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭aspasp1


    Sweet holy moly!!
    Maybe she had a headache, or hadn't finished her breakfast, or had had a bad nights sleep the night before the English test??/
    The poor little mite!

    Leave her alone! Take her to the library, read with her, and talk to her in English.... she's grand!


    Those results are bloody good, and I wish my kids in primary got the same type of results!

    And tell me this, why on earth are they giving first class kids a percentage???
    What is this? A primary school aimed leaving cert?? What happened to the old reports where you only worried about your kid if he was being bold, or swinging the lead?

    That poor child has my sympathies, if her parents are in knots now, in first class... First Class!!... god help them when the state exams loom!

    Go talk to the teacher if you wish. She'll say your kid is grand, only on a bad day.

    And chillax!

    May be you are right..but i have no one to compare her with to say she has good results, average or bad. So idvnk was comparing her with herself and this is why i am disappointed. Dont know ifz we are expecting too much? thanks for help.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 2,503 Mod ✭✭✭✭dambarude


    If they are all percentile scores in her summer tests she did well. Above average in English, Irish and Maths. If they're not percentile results from standardised tests I wouldn't be too worried about them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭Kathnora


    Take a very large CHILL PILL. And, I'm speaking as a Primary Teacher with over 30 years experience. You will end up having a nervous breakdown before your child reaches second level never mind the Leaving Cert! In years to come you will look back and laugh at yourself and realise how silly you were to be so worried.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭mat cauthon


    aspasp1 wrote: »
    May be you are right..but i have no one to compare her with to say she has good results, average or bad. So idvnk was comparing her with herself and this is why i am disappointed. Dont know ifz we are expecting too much? thanks for help.


    You may not, but her teacher does, and so if the sweetling is coming home singing away happily, and chatting about what so and so said... what does it matter??
    None of those percentages are bad, even in the percentile.
    Leave the little mite alone!
    She's grand.
    If you stress out this much at age seven, what will you do at 17 in leaving cert? When it really matters?
    Relax. Would be worse if she was wetting the bed because she couldn't do her ponics, wouldn't it?:confused::confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭aspasp1


    You may not, but her teacher does, and so if the sweetling is coming home singing away happily, and chatting about what so and so said... what does it matter??
    None of those percentages are bad, even in the percentile.
    Leave the little mite alone!
    She's grand.
    If you stress out this much at age seven, what will you do at 17 in leaving cert? When it really matters?
    Relax. Would be worse if she was wetting the bed because she couldn't do her ponics, wouldn't it?:confused::confused:

    Talked to her teacher today and she said there s nothing to worry. plenty of students are at same level and she is doing very well otherwise..thanks for advice all..feel better after talking to teacher..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭strawberrie


    aspasp1 wrote: »
    Talked to her teacher today and she said there s nothing to worry. plenty of students are at same level and she is doing very well otherwise..thanks for advice all..feel better after talking to teacher..

    Glad to hear it aspasp1. Your daughter is lucky to have you looking out for her and her future.


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