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Have any conspiracy theories ever benn proven true?

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  • 08-06-2013 8:47am
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    Registered Users Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭


    Can't remember any that have been proven and acknowledged.....

    There were rumours that it was going to be officially announced that Jedward were a pair of annoying idiots, but maybe that was a counter conspiracy....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,183 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    WMD in Iraq?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!




  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,606 Mod ✭✭✭✭horgan_p


    The whole (american) government reading your email / listening to your calls is coming dangerously close to being true.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    Isn't there a UFO buried under the hill of Tara.
    < fetches shovel >


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    horgan_p wrote: »
    The whole (american) government reading your email / listening to your calls is coming dangerously close to being true.....

    It's more of a conspiracy reality than a theory.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    Definitely looks like that big bang theory is knocking the creationism story from the bible right back on its ass!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,213 ✭✭✭bonzodog2


    That's just what they want you to think!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭Earthwalker


    Turns out The Corrs were really a threesome.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Isn't it accepted albeit unofficially at this stage that Lee Harvey Oswald was not a lone gunman? The Zapruder tape and the tests carried out from the book depository building.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭Technoprisoner


    wasnt the manhattan project a conspiracy theory


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,606 Mod ✭✭✭✭horgan_p


    Turns out The Corrs were really a threesome.

    did someone say "Corrs" and "Threesome" ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,973 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Have a listen to this Skeptoid episode, or at least read the transcript. (Assuming you haven't already - it addresses this exact question.) It's not the final word on the topic, but I agree with the general consensus: there have been real conspiracies, but they've never matched well with prior conspiracy theories.

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    Nigel Benn was a DJ.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,068 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    horgan_p wrote: »
    The whole (american) government reading your email / listening to your calls is coming dangerously close to being true.....

    I think it's way beyond that already

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/07/us-government-special-privilege-scrutiny-data?CMP=twt_fd
    US government invokes special privilege to stop scrutiny of data mining

    Officials use little-known 'military and state secrets privilege' as civil liberties lawyers try to hold administration to account


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Isn't it accepted albeit unofficially at this stage that Lee Harvey Oswald was not a lone gunman?

    No, not at all. It's widely accepted that he was a lone gunman and that all evidence supports this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭martinedwards


    but the film!!!!

    that was all true right?

    right?

    no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 205 ✭✭Meritocracy Wins


    horgan_p wrote: »
    did someone say "Corrs" and "Threesome" ?

    Jim and 2 of the others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Pilotdude5


    Gravity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34,069 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    horgan_p wrote: »
    The whole (american) government reading your email / listening to your calls is coming dangerously close to being true.....

    Dont know if still works.


    On your email account type in "Kill Obama" into subject and send it to yourself.

    The send another email with your name and send it to yourself.

    You will actually receive your name subject email first.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Isn't it accepted albeit unofficially at this stage that Lee Harvey Oswald was not a lone gunman? The Zapruder tape and the tests carried out from the book depository building.
    The general opinion out there now is that Oswald didn't act alone and JFK had many enemy's in his administration including top Military brass rouge CIA elements , Mafia ,Cuban refugees and southern Texans and JFK himself was aware that many had it in for him but as president and ' A Kennedy ' had by his own standards to seen to be above all fear .

    The most credible conspiracy theory for his assassination in recent years was that through secret negotiation between himself and Castro ( JFK and RFK couldn't trust the CIA or FBI so they used personal envoys and some reporters who were close to Castro ) they were actually in the process of making peace .The CIA whom JFK had threatened to ' smash into a thousand pieces ' and the Cubans who along with the above had felt betrayed by his lack of action in the Bay Of Pigs fiasco ,didn't want any possible Kennedy /Castro relationship to flourish .The war mongers in military brass (who wanted to nuke Cuba during the missile crisis ) still called for military action over Cuba and they didn't like how the President was doing it ' his way ' ie, .

    The CIA got wind of this through bugging the presidents phone and the rouge elements ,using Oswald as the patsy and fall guy ,got the Cubans to play their part to .There were 3 separate reports of planned assassination of JFK just weeks before the actual assassination in Dallas ( Tampa and Miami were two places were recorded underworld conversations about attempts on Kennedys life were on file and a Cuban with a gun was known to be in the crowd when JFK addressed the crowd at the Orange Bowl Miami to )

    One of the best books on the Kennedy brothers /assassination's I have read recently is this book ' Brothers '

    http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1298567461l/524654.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    "9/11 Acknowledged to be Inside job of Former United States Govt."


    - Headline taken from the New Europe Chronicle, 9th March, 2132.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    Isn't it accepted albeit unofficially at this stage that Lee Harvey Oswald was not a lone gunman? The Zapruder tape and the tests carried out from the book depository building.


    I used to think that, but i'm now leaning towards a conspiracy involving him, but he was the lone shooter.

    one of the more recent investigations looked into the time he took to pull off the three shots, which for many years was believed to be about 6 seconds. many claimed such shooting was beyond his skill, pointing to a second shooter. However this investigation pulled in a few interviews with witness and theorised that instead of six seconds (bang.... bang..bang) it was more like 13 seconds (bang............bang....bang) which was well within his skill. the first shot missed (possibly deflected by a sign/traffic light and shrapnel hit a bystander) the second so called magic bullet wasnt magic at all, and the third was the kill shot.

    did he act alone? i think so.

    did he plan it alone? the **** he did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Clandestine


    MKULTRA was


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭scopper


    I think most people think Oswald was a lone gunman so that does not count. I think what we are finding out is the basic gist of an elite/cabal snooping and manipulating things. Only they just happen to be our governments and not Jews or whatever.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    With regard JFK, there is the proven conspiracy theory that the KGB planted conspiracy theory "evidence" to make it look as though there were greater forces at play. Wrap your head around that one.

    It was proven Nixon conspired to extend the war in Vietnam to boost his ratings in the general election and win a second term.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Latchy wrote: »
    The general opinion out there now is that Oswald didn't act alone

    Maybe among conspiracy theorists, but not among historians.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,275 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    When a conspiracy theory is proved true, the tinfoil hats simply move onto the next one. Once there's no paranoia involved, there's really no point. It doesn't feed the fantasy any more.

    A bit like alternative medicine. Once the active ingredient is identified and isolated/synthesized, hippies lose interest and move on to the next crackpotopathy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    bay of pigs

    this forum is pointless btw


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,275 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Tigger wrote: »
    bay of pigs

    this forum is pointless btw
    AH pointless?!?

    Actually, you may be on to something...


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