**OL Maths Paper 1 - Before/After **

shootie

I think people really underestimate how hard the OL exam can be.

Paper 1 is handy enough up to the differentiation stuff. That's rocket science!

David086

Praying for a D3 at this stage

N64

Going to end up coming out of this exam crying. GG everyone

clairek6

any advice?? just need a pass....

Sporty_Kate

Hope to good God standard deviation and all that lark don't come up or else i'm ruined!!

HANDSOME!

Just need a D3 to pass and I'm bricking it I wont get it hahahahahha

Jade.

I don't even know what's on paper 1! :pac:

Squidgy Black

shootie wrote: »

I think people really underestimate how hard the OL exam can be.

Paper 1 is handy enough up to the differentiation stuff. That's rocket science!

If you were doing honours up until after the mocks you'd see how much easier it is really, it's not even comparable. You have to learn off differentiations of sin and stuff of by heart, the hardest part in ordinary is just remembering differentiation from first principles method.

Daniel7740

Does anyone know where to find a list of all the topics on paper 1?

ray2012

Lads, attempt everything on the paper. Write something down for every question, even if you don't have a clue. You could be surprised and get marks for it. You should have no blanks on your exam, at all. Know your definitions of an irrational number/the converse of a theorem/prime number, as they regularly appear in the sample papers and may appear in the Q1 tomorrow. Make sure you know how to use the different rules in differentiation (produce/quotient/chain). As well as that, make sure you know the basic rule of simple differentiation. Know how to use the 'Tn' and 'Sn' formula -> (a = the first term ; d = the common difference). I have a feeling that something may come up asking to give whether the series is arithmetic, geometric or neither. :

1.) 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 are all seperated by + 1 ~> Arithmetic
2.) 1,3,9,27,81 are all seperated by * 3 ~> Geometric
3.) 1,4,9,16,25 are neither because they are not seperated by +, -, /, or *

Go over your complex numbers, i.e that an i(squared) switches to -1. Remember that the conjugate of z (the z with the line over the top of it) is the same as z, just change the sign in the middle. e.g -> z = 1+i conjugate of z = 1-i

And finally, make sure you know your distance, speed and time thing. As in, the type of questions asking when the speed of the ball equal zero, or when they tell you to find the distance that it traveled.

Look over the sample questions and attempt some of these questions.. They are all relatively simple once you get the hang of them..!

Again, MAKE SURE you leave NO blanks. Write SOMETHING down.

mepsipax

Hey everybody,
I've kinda been out of school for most of this year in maths so I literally have no clue what could come up tomorrow, I don't even have papers to see what *could* come up! I always do well anyway, but could someone tell me what can come up in the off chance there's something on it I'm not familiar with? Thanks!

Computer995

ray2012 wrote: »

Lads, attempt everything on the paper. Write something down for every question, even if you don't have a clue. You could be surprised and get marks for it. You should have no blanks on your exam, at all. Know your definitions of an irrational number/the converse of a theorem/prime number, as they regularly appear in the sample papers and may appear in the Q1 tomorrow. Make sure you know how to use the different rules in differentiation (produce/quotient/chain). As well as that, make sure you know the basic rule of simple differentiation. Know how to use the 'Tn' and 'Sn' formula -> (a = the first term ; d = the common difference). I have a feeling that something may come up asking to give whether the series is arithmetic, geometric or neither. :

1.) 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 are all seperated by + 1 ~> Arithmetic
2.) 1,3,9,27,81 are all seperated by * 3 ~> Geometric
3.) 1,4,9,16,25 are neither because they are not seperated by +, -, /, or *

Go over your complex numbers, i.e that an i(squared) switches to -1. Remember that the conjugate of z (the z with the line over the top of it) is the same as z, just change the sign in the middle. e.g -> z = 1+i conjugate of z = 1-i

And finally, make sure you know your distance, speed and time thing. As in, the type of questions asking when the speed of the ball equal zero, or when they tell you to find the distance that it traveled.

Look over the sample questions and attempt some of these questions.. They are all relatively simple once you get the hang of them..!

Again, MAKE SURE you leave NO blanks. Write SOMETHING down.

I am going to marry you someday !

SeanyboyQPR

We dont need a maths set, right? For tomorrow at least

Lucan Bohs

stetyrrell wrote: »

If you were doing honours up until after the mocks you'd see how much easier it is really, it's not even comparable. You have to learn off differentiations of sin and stuff of by heart, the hardest part in ordinary is just remembering differentiation from first principles method.

Hence, why HL get their free 25 points no?!

BLiamB

Saw someone on Facebook post this, their teacher made it apparently so I hope it helps

https://sites.google.com/site/5thyearprojectmaths/

HugsiePie

BLiamB wrote: »

Saw someone on Facebook post this, their teacher made it apparently so I hope it helps

https://sites.google.com/site/5thyearprojectmaths/

I got so excited there for a minute, I misread the comment and thought it said that their teacher made the actual test

BLiamB

HugsiePie wrote: »

I got so excited there for a minute, I misread the comment and thought it said that their teacher made the actual test

Sorry about that :P Maybe I should of worded it better

HugsiePie

BLiamB wrote: »

Sorry about that :P Maybe I should of worded it better

No no it's just me and my over exhaustion and praying for a way around having to actually study my mind jumps to conclusions

TheStook

Up studying since 6am and have no clue what to do..Complex numbers are so confusing, already getting frustrated and haven't even started calculus. Cannot wait for all this to finish

Jade.

Haven't even studied for this yet! :eek: Anyone know what definitions I should know for Paper 1?

LostBoy101

Jade. wrote: »

Haven't even studied for this yet! :eek: Anyone know what definitions I should know for Paper 1?

You need to know to define, rational number, irrational number and a prime number.

Lcstudent2013

Can't wait for this. In and out in an hour. Benefits of being a honours student and dropping down I suppose!

007driver

Clandestine

Lcstudent2013 wrote: »

Can't wait for this. In and out in an hour. Benefits of being a honours student and dropping down I suppose!

You say that now, but you never know what might happen....

Jordan537

BLiamB wrote: »

Saw someone on Facebook post this, their teacher made it apparently so I hope it helps

https://sites.google.com/site/5thyearprojectmaths/

My maths teacher made this, Ratoath college. (Mr Cahill)

It is very very useful and gives a video for everything that is on the exam.

FrankLamar

Just home from the exam left at half 3 :P
Had it almost all done within an hour

That was such an easy paper.
Think I got a good B atleast

The Pheasant

Well that was hilariously easy

Lcstudent2013

Left just after an hour. Easy paper but there's always those ugly questions such as the length to earth to sun question. Never bothered looking up how to them them
B minimum from paper 1.

whiteandlight

Any more info on what came up? Teacher here unable to go to the school because of illness. More nervous than they are!

Lcstudent2013

Musicmental85 wrote: »

Any more info on what came up? Teacher here unable to go to the school because of illness. More nervous than they are!

I'm sure they would be fine! Questions with differentiation, the acceleration and speed of an object, how much interest was to be paid. Mostly pretty easy questions with a few hard one throughout

whiteandlight

Oh that sounds good. So frustrating not being there for them.

The Pheasant

Musicmental85 wrote: »

Oh that sounds good. So frustrating not being there for them.

You sound like quite a dedicated teacher - fairplay, good to see that now and then...but yeah they'll be fine, was a lovely paper

whiteandlight

Learnt from the best, both parents secondary teachers and I've lived with the annual stress of the exams all my life! You just want your students to have the chance to show off the knowledge they have

Lcstudent2013

Anyone remember what what theory question was? It was in the question when you had to calculate the two men's salaries.

Clandestine

Finished just past half 3 but I stayed to check over everything for another 30 minutes or so. I had to skip the f'(x) questions, had no idea.

mayoman1995

Clandestine wrote: »

Finished just past half 3 but I stayed to check over everything for another 30 minutes or so. I had to skip the f'(x) questions, had no idea.

that was just normal differentiation

stephenjmcd

That 60 marker q6 what was up with that , so easy

Jade.

I thought it was awful :O Not one person in my class thought it was easy!

Saying that I had the same reaction to the pre and got a B1 in paper 1 so fingers crossed!

stephenjmcd

Jade. wrote: »

I thought it was awful :O Not one person in my class thought it was easy!

Saying that I had the same reaction to the pre and got a B1 in paper 1 so fingers crossed!

Not even the 60 marker ???

MartyP

paper one was nice, not sure about 3 parts but attemted everything. i should do well in maths nice relief to do good in something after messing up in geography

stephenjmcd

Was nervous going in but I'm am sure I got that 60 marker right , a few of the 25 ones and bits of the 40 ones, attempted all parts bar 2, all rests on paper 2 now . Quick question say I get 170 on paper 1 and say 80 marks on paper 2, although I will have failed p2 do I pass maths as I have passed the 240 mark from both papers

Jordan537

yes

JustForClarity

That was one of the easiest paper ones I've seen, including the sample papers. The last part of some questions gave me some trouble but I'm expecting decent attempt marks for them.

Went in hoping to pass since I'm not using Maths for points, but I think I should study paper two over the weekend now and go for an A1/A2.

ray2012

I knew something about the arithmetic sequence would come up (I posted to learn it on page 1 of this thread )
It's great to have my first good paper of the leaving cert, considering English paper 1 and 2 went ****e.

Hoping for attempt marks in sections though, like the part getting the local max and min point.. I always failed with those :P

Jordan537

any chance paper 2 will be very hard to even it out ?

JustForClarity

ray2012 wrote: »

I knew something about the arithmetic sequence would come up (I posted to learn it on page 1 of this thread )
It's great to have my first good paper of the leaving cert, considering English paper 1 and 2 went ****e.

Hoping for attempt marks in sections though, like the part getting the local max and min point.. I always failed with those :P

I made it up as I went along in the exam, but think I may have actually gotten somewhere with it. Did anyone else get a maximum point of 0 and a minimum point of -4?

Either way, I believe if you drew the graph correctly using whatever points you got (even if they're wrong), they give you full marks for that part.

Lcstudent2013

JustForClarity wrote: »

I made it up as I went along in the exam, but think I may have actually gotten somewhere with it. Did anyone else get a maximum point of 0 and a minimum point of -4?

Either way, I believe if you drew the graph correctly using whatever points you got (even if they're wrong), they give you full marks for that part.

Yes I got the same points

eoinoc2509

JustForClarity wrote: »

I made it up as I went along in the exam, but think I may have actually gotten somewhere with it. Did anyone else get a maximum point of 0 and a minimum point of -4?

Either way, I believe if you drew the graph correctly using whatever points you got (even if they're wrong), they give you full marks for that part.

Yeah i got those points. Can you remember what you got for the trapazodial one?

chikatita

feck ye all I thought it was impossible most definitely failed

JustForClarity

Jordan537 wrote: »

any chance paper 2 will be very hard to even it out ?

That's what I'm worried about. I think I've already passed with paper one though so it's only grade-building at this point.

Lcstudent2013 wrote: »

Yes I got the same points

eoinoc2509 wrote: »

Yeah i got those points. Can you remember what you got for the trapazodial one?

Cool, I guess it's true that you remember stuff you didn't think you knew during the exams! Which one was the trapazoidal one? I'm not sure about the terminology tbh.

ray2012

I got those points too I think actually! I'll get most attempt marks for it anyways.

What did ye get for the credit limit thing? I got that he would be in excess by like, 18c :P

I did it a really awkward way though by doing each month separately (I'd say there is an easier way). But I suppose if you get any number over the 1000 you're right.