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Renting water off a neighbour

  • 04-06-2013 10:23pm
    #1
    larthehar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭


    I have an outfarm that has no water on it and I have been drawing water to it... I have been considering asking the neighbour joining it could I use his water. I would put meter on the supply and pay him so much/volume... Just wondering does anybody else do this?? How much a litre or cubicmeter is it worth?


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  • #2
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    What is the local coco charging? Round here it's over a euro / 1000L. I suppose there will be vat going on it soon:mad: Does the neighbour have their own well?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #3
    jj92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭jj92


    We just got a bill from the council for 275 euros standing charge for water meters on our outfarm plus a charge of about 1.20 or so per m cubed. I think it's 145 for 1 meter or 275 for multiple meters on a fragmented farm. We have our own supply on the home farm and if someone wanted to pay per litre it would seem a good idea to help cover costs. Maybe there are unseen issues but I think a neighbor might be happy to oblige.


  • #4
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    A neighbour gets water for a field from us for nothing.

    On an outfarm where we have no electricity, we dug a 5m perforated corripipe into the ground at the lowest point in the land, put a base of stone around it and filled it back up. Put a lid on it and have a pasture pump taking water from it. It has never ran dry!


  • #5
    delaval
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    Our scheme charges 55c/cu for treated water


  • #6
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    reilig wrote: »
    A neighbour gets water for a field from us for nothing.

    On an outfarm where we have no electricity, we dug a 5m perforated corripipe into the ground at the lowest point in the land, put a base of stone around it and filled it back up. Put a lid on it and have a pasture pump taking water from it. It has never ran dry!

    Is your pipe straight down and what width is it?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • #7
    larthehar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭larthehar


    reilig wrote: »
    A neighbour gets water for a field from us for nothing.

    On an outfarm where we have no electricity, we dug a 5m perforated corripipe into the ground at the lowest point in the land, put a base of stone around it and filled it back up. Put a lid on it and have a pasture pump taking water from it. It has never ran dry!

    I was thinking about this and I don't know if it would work... There is a small stream at the bottom of the farm and I have made a drinking spot into it but it can't keep up with the stocking rate.. 40 sucklers have a huge demand.. I would need about 3-4 pasture pumps and at 300 quid a pop would it be cheaper to get in electricity in the long run?!


  • #8
    Manoffeeling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Manoffeeling


    larthehar wrote: »
    I was thinking about this and I don't know if it would work... There is a small stream at the bottom of the farm and I have made a drinking spot into it but it can't keep up with the stocking rate.. 40 sucklers have a huge demand.. I would need about 3-4 pasture pumps and at 300 quid a pop would it be cheaper to get in electricity in the long run?!

    We had 45 sucklers on 1 pasture pump.


  • #9
    yellow50HX
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    reilig wrote: »
    A neighbour gets water for a field from us for nothing.

    On an outfarm where we have no electricity, we dug a 5m perforated corripipe into the ground at the lowest point in the land, put a base of stone around it and filled it back up. Put a lid on it and have a pasture pump taking water from it. It has never ran dry!

    sure isnt co leitrim mostly water anyway???

    would you need to check the water table level for that? teeing into the local concil water supply is really only feasible if the main runs by the farm. one of the neighbouring fams here is an outfarm. The cost of bringing electry and mains water to the site was fairly high so the lad who has it has come up with a clever idea. There was an old well on the land so he has put a steel frame with two ibc's on it which feed teh water tanks. He dropped a submersible pump down into the well and has hooked a small petrol genterator to it. everyday when he goes to check the cattle there (they are not there all the time) he will start up the genertator and it pumps into the ibc's. The genertor will shut off when the ibcs are full. a tanks of petrol will keep him going for a few weeks.


  • #10
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Is your pipe straight down and what width is it?

    12" corripipe which goes straight down 5 meters into the ground.


  • #11
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    larthehar wrote: »
    I was thinking about this and I don't know if it would work... There is a small stream at the bottom of the farm and I have made a drinking spot into it but it can't keep up with the stocking rate.. 40 sucklers have a huge demand.. I would need about 3-4 pasture pumps and at 300 quid a pop would it be cheaper to get in electricity in the long run?!

    Dig the corripipe into the stream. Any water that collects in the stream will flow to the lowest point. ie. The bottom of the 5m corripipe. Unless the stream dries up for prolonged periods, you won't ever run out of water.


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  • #12
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    yellow50HX wrote: »
    sure isnt co leitrim mostly water anyway???

    would you need to check the water table level for that? teeing into the local concil water supply is really only feasible if the main runs by the farm. one of the neighbouring fams here is an outfarm. The cost of bringing electry and mains water to the site was fairly high so the lad who has it has come up with a clever idea. There was an old well on the land so he has put a steel frame with two ibc's on it which feed teh water tanks. He dropped a submersible pump down into the well and has hooked a small petrol genterator to it. everyday when he goes to check the cattle there (they are not there all the time) he will start up the genertator and it pumps into the ibc's. The genertor will shut off when the ibcs are full. a tanks of petrol will keep him going for a few weeks.

    That's hardship and a costly initial investment.

    If you have a well on your land, a pasture pump costs only €300, has a long life span, and no running costs. You don't have to start a generator either. 1 pasture pump will water a lot of animals!!


  • #13
    Bizzum
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    reilig wrote: »
    That's hardship and a costly initial investment.

    If you have a well on your land, a pasture pump costs only €300, has a long life span, and no running costs. You don't have to start a generator either. 1 pasture pump will water a lot of animals!!

    My thoughts were that he'll go down some day and find the generator missing!
    We have a pasture pump, I always get the impression that the cattle drink just enough to keep em goin. I'd like to set up a hypothetical situation where they could choose a pasture pump or a conventional drinker and see how it pans out!


  • #14
    yellow50HX
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    reilig wrote: »
    That's hardship and a costly initial investment.

    If you have a well on your land, a pasture pump costs only €300, has a long life span, and no running costs. You don't have to start a generator either. 1 pasture pump will water a lot of animals!!

    how deep can a pasture pump pump from? wells round here are typically between 100-200 feet with plenty over 300. Not all farms are next to a river or stream.


  • #15
    yellow50HX
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    Bizzum wrote: »
    My thoughts were that he'll go down some day and find the generator missing!
    QUOTE]

    tis a fair point and one i have asked him about. well and small pump house (actually its a coal bunker) are in a good bit from the road. farm is almost completely land locked far one field with about 100m of road frontage. He disconnects the generator and brings it home with him when the cattle and put there.

    not sure where the hardship is. He is going there to check the cattle anyway and parks the car by the pump. only takes a minute to go over open the lid and start the genertor. kill switch is tied into a ball cock on the ibc so it goes off its self.


  • #16
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    yellow50HX wrote: »
    Not all farms are next to a river or stream.

    I thought you said he has a well on the land?

    A pasture pump will pump from a depth of max 10m.

    Our farm is not beside a river or a stream, that's why we had to put down the corripipe.


  • #17
    yellow50HX
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    reilig wrote: »
    I thought you said he has a well on the land?

    A pasture pump will pump from a depth of max 10m.

    Our farm is not beside a river or a stream, that's why we had to put down the corripipe.

    it is. perhaps i should clarify its a bore hole for a well.

    the water table round here can quite low espically if your up high on the hill. while you might hit water at 5-10m it usually wont be capable of providing water in dry weather and will usually fill with silt after heavy rain. in order to get a good supply of water you need to go a lot deeper. people accross the road from me sank a new well for their house last year to about 145ft. it would be easier in places where there is a spring then yes a shallow well and a pasture pump would proably do alright.


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