David Haye to fight Tyson Fury?

Littlehorny

Just read on a news website that Haye and Fury are going to agree to a fight in September in a football stadium as both of their planned match ups have fallen through. Might be total bs but it would virtually guarantee the winner a shot at a Klitchko. Would Haye find Fury very easy to hit or would Fury be too big and strong for him?

Johner

Haye would knock him out.

cowzerp

cool fight, Where Haye should be Fighting.

heyheyhey1982

Would he knock him out?
He struggles with taller men, and Tysoe has a decent chin and if his conditioning is good he could to what he did to Cunningham who was another cruiser weight.

Manc-Red

Think Fury would cause him problems if he can get past the first few rounds.

Haye wins though.

Frankie Lee

If Fury survives the early rounds he would wear Haye down in the later rounds. A similar fight to the Cunningham one only Haye is more dangerous but I don't think Fury would take the stupid chances.

Dick phelan

Problem for tyson is he is so prone to getting himself into a tear up and making stupid errors, if he sticks the jab out and fights from range for the first few rounds he can win, i would disagree he has a good chin i mean cunningham did floor him a cruiserweight and not a big hitting one, Would fancy Haye by KO but if Tyson is smart he can win

Littlehorny

Dick phelan wrote: »

Problem for tyson is he is so prone to getting himself into a tear up and making stupid errors, if he sticks the jab out and fights from range for the first few rounds he can win, i would disagree he has a good chin i mean cunningham did floor him a cruiserweight and not a big hitting one, Would fancy Haye by KO but if Tyson is smart he can win

Agree with you there, as huge as Fury is, he is hurtable and while I think Haye is only an average heavyweight he does hit hard, a ko win for Haye in the first 6 rounds imo.

T-K-O

Fury lacks the ring smarts to beat Haye.

Haye by KO within 6

heyheyhey1982

Have isn't a real heavy weight. He's a cruiser who fought Klitcko in one of the worst attempts I've ever seen to beat Klitcko. I really would find it hard to believe he could knock fury out. Fury went down In his last fight, but got up and wentthrough cunningham for a short cut. I suppose it's all opinions until the fight happens.

boxer.fan

heyheyhey1982 wrote: »

Would he knock him out?
He struggles with taller men, and Tysoe has a decent chin and if his conditioning is good he could to what he did to Cunningham who was another cruiser weight.

Haye did ok against Valuev and his toe was messed up whilst fighting Wladimir. A decent match up, if Haye can't KO Fury he should stay retired.

weemcd

Fury is waiting to be knocked out, Haye moves much faster and will be able to out-land Fury early. Mid rounds Haye begins to hurt Fury causing a stoppage in rd 7/8. Think this goes the same way as the Chisora fight, possibly with one or two scares for Haye.

FTA69

boxer.fan wrote: »

Haye did ok against Valuev and his toe was messed up whilst fighting Wladimir. A decent match up, if Haye can't KO Fury he should stay retired.

Valuev is an awful boxer and if you're buying the toe excuse then good luck to you.

EireIceMan

Peter Fury confirms they're in 'talks'...
http://www.worldboxingnews.net/news/2013/06/04/peter-fury-confirms-fury-v-haye-discussions-for-september-october-bout.html

sxt

If it goes longer than 6 rounds , Tyson is going to win .Does Tyson have the discipline and guile to stick to a winning game plan against Haye? that is very questionable! It makes for an exciting fight if it happens .

Daroxtar

There's a gulf in class between the two of them. Furys only hope is a Hail Mary punch and I can't see that happening.
Regarding Haye being a cruiserweight; he was a seriously weight drained cruiser who now weighs the same as Ali or Evander Holyfield. Maybe not a massive man but he's no Baby Jake either.

Haye will bore loads of people on here by avoiding Fury all night and picking him off with 1-2's. There's a good chance he could score a KD as he has plenty of power to do so. Fury has a decent chin but that doesn't mean he should lead with it.

Fury just doesn't have the brainpower to beat Haye. Maybe in 3 or 4 years he could have the ringcraft to do it but not now.

Fairly onesided pts win for Haye and loads of complaints from the anti brit brigade to follow.

Littlehorny

^^ I remember Haye saying he had a hard time making Cruiserweight just before his debut at Heavyweight but the most he has weighed in at is 210. This wouldn't suggest to me that he had serious trouble making weight. Losing 10 lbs to a big professional boxer should be easy enough.
Guys operating in the smaller devisions do have to lose more than 10lbs to make weight. I remember Chris Eubank used to have to lose 17 lbs to fight at middleweight.

sxt

Daroxtar wrote: »

There's a gulf in class between the two of them. Furys only hope is a Hail Mary punch and I can't see that happening.

Would you be shocked if Tyson won? I think it comes down to who gets their tactics right on the night. I'd highly favour Haye in the first half of the fight ,especially if tyson is trying to go leather for leather ( It is easier to ryle a Fury than a klitschko , id guess). If Tyson has a strategic game plan to last the second half of the fight , then he would have a great chance to win. For what Tyson lacks in skill , he makes up in determination and heart. Obviously the size advantage would come into play more as well.

Frankie Lee

Haye has only beat Monte Barrett, Valuev, Ruiz, Audley and Chisora in 5 years as a heavyweight. The two biggest names he fought as a cruiserweight were Jean Marc Mormeck and Maccarinelli. He really is one of the greatest self promoters boxing has ever seen.

sxt

Tyson would be his biggest win at heavyweight. Valuev was beaten by a 48 year old Holyfield

T-K-O

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Haye has only beat Monte Barrett, Valuev, Ruiz, Audley and Chisora in 5 years as a heavyweight. The two biggest names he fought as a cruiserweight were Jean Marc Mormeck and Maccarinelli. He really is one of the greatest self promoters boxing has ever seen.

Probably the biggest name at the weight. Enzo was on the rise and David Haye ruined his career. He never ever recovered from that fight. Say what you will about Haye at HW (despite him being better than most) he was the man at cruiser

Frankie Lee

T-K-O wrote: »

Probably the biggest name at the weight. Enzo was on the rise and David Haye ruined his career. He never ever recovered from that fight. Say what you will about Haye at HW (despite him being better than most) he was the man at cruiser

Adamek and Steve Cunningham were bigger names at cruiserweight at the time imo, Haye often talks about cleaning out the cruiserweight division and it is nonsense. There could have been some great fights at Cruiserweight if he had stayed there for another 18 months.

Dick phelan

sxt wrote: »

Would you be shocked if Tyson won? I think it comes down to who gets their tactics right on the night. I'd highly favour Haye in the first half of the fight ,especially if tyson is trying to go leather for leather ( It is easier to ryle a Fury than a klitschko , id guess). If Tyson has a strategic game plan to last the second half of the fight , then he would have a great chance to win. For what Tyson lacks in skill , he makes up in determination and heart. Obviously the size advantage would come into play more as well.

Agree completly for me its simple if Haye wins it will be inside the first 6 if Fury wins it will be in the later stages, i would question Hayes Stamina also he looked pretty tired Vs Chisora and it was a good thing he got the KO when he did because he didnt look like he would keep it going for a full 12 rounds

FTA69

Fury is in serious shape these days to be fair, he's a different fighter to the one that fought Chisora. Still think Hate would win though.

Frank Gallagher pissed

Fury can and hopefully will win.

I'd like to think some of us could get behind Tyson here, after all he did say he would fight in Croke Park at some stage.

Cant see Haye agreeing to fight in Croke Park in this though.

Dick phelan

Frank Gallagher pissed wrote: »

Fury can and hopefully will win.

I'd like to think some of us could get behind Tyson here, after all he did say he would fight in Croke Park at some stage.

Cant see Haye agreeing to fight in Croke Park in this though.

Not a hope Haye would come to Croker, Tyson would only have a fight in croke park if he was World champion and tbh i really dont think he has a hope of beating klitschko so wont be winning a world title any time soon, would like if he came to ireland for a fight though like a big show in the O2 ireland really needs some big shows theres nothing of note outside Belfast since the days of Dunne, hopefully Frampton will have a fight or two down south aswell, i am behind Tyson i honestly really want him to do well, despite all the Sh1t he talks i honestly think its all hype reckon he is a very decent lad at heart i also really admire his fighting heart and spirit i for one am a big Tyson Fury supporter

Frank Gallagher pissed

Dick phelan wrote: »

Not a hope Haye would come to Croker, Tyson would only have a fight in croke park if he was World champion and tbh i really dont think he has a hope of beating klitschko so wont be winning a world title any time soon, would like if he came to ireland for a fight though like a big show in the O2 ireland really needs some big shows theres nothing of note outside Belfast since the days of Dunne, hopefully Frampton will have a fight or two down south aswell, i am behind Tyson i honestly really want him to do well, despite all the Sh1t he talks i honestly think its all hype reckon he is a very decent lad at heart i also really admire his fighting heart and spirit i for one am a big Tyson Fury supporter

Yeh same I know he rubs people up the wrong way but he reminds me of myself in a way, under all the mouthing , bull**** and bravado hes actually a very decent fella. :pac:

On his title chances, I think this could be made into a WBC eliminator to fight Vitali hopefully. And there a high likelyhood that either:

A) Vitali retires after Stiverne if that happens
Vitali in 2014 is a shadow of his former self.

He probably wouldnt beat Wlad but he poses him more problems than he has had probably in many years.

el flaco

Frank Gallagher pissed wrote: »

I'd like to think some of us could get behind Tyson here

I think quite a few people would be/are supporting Tyson. I know I am. And if he does come up against Haye, he'll probably gain more supporters from the anti-Haye camp. From a purely rational perspective though I see Haye winning. I think quite a few people expect Haye to win, although they would probably like to see Fury winning.

Fury is the studio guest for the James DeGale fight this weekend, which could be entertaining.

EireIceMan

Fury and Charr givin Haye a bit of a dig on Twitter together.

Alpha Dog 1

Speculation increasing that this fight is close to completion.

FTA69

Fury is hilarious like. He's actually one of the funniest characters in the sport. As I said on another thread, him shouting a load of halting-site Traveller guff at puzzled-looking American black fellas has to be one of the side-splitting scenes I've seen at a press conference. I get sh*t over here for saying he's better than Price but as far as I'm concerned he has fought better fighters, taken bigger risks and has now gotten into some serious shape as well. He's nowhere near the Klitschko level but I've the suspicion that his team just want to outlast them.

In the interim who else is there? Chagaev, Pulev, Helenius? Tyson could well have the measure of all of these if he sorts out aspects of his game. If he comes through the above and manages to beat Povetkin then I see no reason why he can't go far in the division. I think he'd beat f*ck out of Wilder too to be honest.

Alpha Dog 1

I don't think there is any doubt that he is better than price at the moment. Huge questions marks over Price after the last fight, he really needs to go out and prove himself in the rematch.

Fury is on a different level now, but the Haye fight would be a real 50/50 shot and might not be a good fight right now for his career.

el flaco

Hearn talking about the potential for Haye v Fury being PPV. Sigh.

http://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-haye-fury-huge-ppv-deal-close--66558

Dick phelan

el flaco wrote: »

Hearn talking about the potential for Haye v Fury being PPV. Sigh.

http://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-haye-fury-huge-ppv-deal-close--66558

So its back to feckin ppv for all big fights then, thought hearn said Froch Kessler was a one off, they better have a quality undercard for the Haye Fury fight, otherwise its a total rip off, Froch Kessler undercard took the absolute p1ss for 20 euro the show should be real quality not just 1 fight

sham69

I was reading fury's twitter this morning.
Hilarious stuff, arrogance is not the word...

So what happens if he beats haye?
Does Haye retire, Charr faces fury?

What if Fury loses, is that the end of him?

FTA69

It wouldn't be the end of him at all. People probably don't expect him to win anyway and like it or not Haye is still in the top five of heavyweights out there today while Tyson is only starting out. He'd still be up there with an admittedly bad bunch.

As for this lark of PPV, come on like. They're having a bloody laugh.

sham69

FTA69 wrote: »

It wouldn't be the end of him at all. People probably don't expect him to win anyway and like it or not Haye is still in the top five of heavyweights out there today while Tyson is only starting out. He'd still be up there with an admittedly bad bunch.

As for this lark of PPV, come on like. They're having a bloody laugh.

Ah ok, sorry only an amateur observer.
Love watching boxing but admittedly don't know that much about divisions and rankings etc.
Should be a good fight though.
PPV is a complete rip off.
I got it for the Froch v Kessler, not exactly value for money.

Frank Gallagher pissed

Froch Kessler was a great fight but the undercard wasnt up to much, and its quite dear. I suspect this will be PPV too.

Would love to get tickets although havent a clue how much that would be. Probably quite inflated. Its meant to be in the MEN arena in Manchester 22,000 capacity.

T-K-O

FTA69 wrote: »

Fury is hilarious like. He's actually one of the funniest characters in the sport. As I said on another thread, him shouting a load of halting-site Traveller guff at puzzled-looking American black fellas has to be one of the side-splitting scenes I've seen at a press conference. I get sh*t over here for saying he's better than Price but as far as I'm concerned he has fought better fighters, taken bigger risks and has now gotten into some serious shape as well. He's nowhere near the Klitschko level but I've the suspicion that his team just want to outlast them.

In the interim who else is there? Chagaev, Pulev, Helenius? Tyson could well have the measure of all of these if he sorts out aspects of his game. If he comes through the above and manages to beat Povetkin then I see no reason why he can't go far in the division. I think he'd beat f*ck out of Wilder too to be honest.

Singing that song after the Cunningham bout was comedy gold

FTA69

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxNtDUX8hw4

Pure Pavee song as well.

"DADDDDDDDDDY GIVE ME THE THE KEYS TO THE CAR"

With everyone booing him as well. Gas.

T-K-O

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/tv-shows/ringside/news/8774141/tyson-fury-says-david-haye-clash-would-be-britain-s-biggest-ever-fight

Copper_pipe

I think Tyson has a decent chance. If he does win, haye will probably have some dodgy excuse

Dick phelan

One thing is for sure Haye needs to win more then Tyson if Tyson was to loose its not the end he is still young and wont be expected to win, if haye looses i reckon its all over for him, i really hope Tyson wins Haye talks trash but just isnt the character Tyson is, Haye is the kind of fighter who talks trash and trys to be a showman Fury is just a natural at it a bit like Malignaggi and Broner one is a natural

Alpha Dog 1

David Haye is 1/6 and tyson fury is 4/1
Alot closer than that imo.
Definitely value.

EireIceMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkGe97cQov0
came across this tonight. his stand up at the end for sports relief (i think) isnt too bad

walshb

I think Haye murders Tyson. And I respect Tyson and believe he's a real trier. He has talent and can punch a bit, but for me I think that chin is a bit too shaky for a fast and clean and heavy handed Haye.

EireIceMan

walshb wrote: »

I think Haye murders Tyson. And I respect Tyson and believe he's a real trier. He has talent and can punch a bit, but for me I think that chin is a bit too shaky for a fast and clean and heavy handed Haye.

I agree,
It would be great if he was the next big deal but i just have a feeling hes another passing through, and will get found out shortly. He's unbeaten, but has anyone been overly impressed by any of his wins? Impressed because he did better in a fight than expected yes, but nothing has been 'wow' material.

FTA69

I think Haye is a step too far for him at this stage as well. He is a steadily improving prospect, but no more. However he does have a huge name going for him (considering where he is actually at) and if he can grab a huge payday I'm sure he will. At 24 he will outlast Haye and the Klitschkos and even he loses in the first round he'll remain a contender at heavyweight as time goes on. Win win for Tyson really.

Brad Goodman

I think Fury is a knockout just waiting to happen so better it happens against Haye in a big money fight where a defeat wouldn't mean as much than against, say Pulev, when the purse wouldn't be nearly as big and a heavy defeat would push him down the world ranking ladder.

Frank Bullitt

If this does go ahead, be prepared for some serious build up to this, both of these men have nuclear powered mouths that never stop.

May god have mercy on us all.

EireIceMan

Looks like its off...
http://www.worldboxingnews.net/news/2013/06/24/haye-i-did-everything-in-my-power-to-fight-fury-but-he-wont-sign.html