Dole office no privacy

futtyman

Why is there no privacy in the dole office ?

Spunge

who cares, free money woooooooooooooo

Hownowcow

Because it's a public office.

Red Crow

Get a job then

*Hides*

Royal Irish

It should be food stamps those scroungers get.

AnonoBoy

futtyman wrote: »

Why is there no privacy in the dole office ?

There is.

If you're called in for a meeting you go into an office for it.

lertsnim

Eli Manning wrote: »

Get a job then

*Hides*

If only the social welfare office did more than helping the unemployed. Oh wait

Drakares

futtyman wrote: »

Why is there no privacy in the dole office ?

If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to claim it.

MarkR

Plenty of privacy, sure everyone there is out of a job. Not like you have to whisper.

You're not wearing your jammies, are you?

Surveyor11

Was always asked to identify my self by my PPS no, great privacy (never mind the dehumanising part)

mikemac1

And Paddy O'Gorman hanging around wanting your story

Trying Nenagh dole office OP. It's so small people queue in the lane outside while 600 students from the CBS walk past at lunchtime

The offices in Dublin and Galway I've seen you can queue inside

Mint Sauce

Think consciously or unconsciously that may be the idea of it to make most people hate the idea of being there and encourage them to find work. Unfortunatly does not seem to work for the career unemployed.

I was going there once a month at one point for up to a year. Hated every moment of it.

Marzipan85

Was in Nutgrove dole office and heard a guy saying he's now resident in John of God's. Is that fair? That I know he's a psychiatric patient? I don't think so. There needs to be more privacy. All this crap about data protection, and yet people are forced to explain sensitive information about themselves within earshot of 10 or 20 randomers.

Sir Oxman

Drakares wrote: »

If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to claim it.

Others funny, you shaddup.

inmyday

This evening has to be the weirdest in ages on After Hours.

Some of the threads are more funny/insane/crazy/fudged up than watching bananas in pyjamas while on a cocktail of drugs.

Miseryguts

Them offices are basically set up that way to humiliate and make it as uncomfortable as possible.

Cee-Jay-Cee

So your worried that all the other people with no job are going to find out that you have no job too?

StewartGriffin

irish-stew wrote: »

Think consciously or unconsciously that may be the idea of it to make most people hate the idea of being there and encourage them to find work..

This would imply that an iota of logical thought went into the setting up of such a system. I very much doubt it.

thebman

StewartGriffin wrote: »

This would imply that an iota of logical thought went into the setting up of such a system. I very much doubt it.

It has, they spend all their time trying to make it as horrible as possible an experience in the hope people won't turn up.

Marzipan85

Marzipan85 wrote: »

All this crap about data protection, and yet people are forced to explain sensitive information about themselves within earshot of 10 or 20 randomers.

Data protection is about protecting your important official identifying information and other details, not about protecting your ability to keep details you find admitting uncomfortable from people. In addition data protection applies to data held on things like paper, computers, pictures. Not people's ears and memories.

Your address should be data protected, but because it can identify you, not because you might find it embarrassing.

There are plenty of things that people know about me that I wish they didn't. I don't like having my banking details on the internet (granted, bank websites are secure, but I don't feel comfortable with it), or that people in my community know about my past, or having to give my details in order to apply for/register for certain things, or having to bring my passport to the pub sometimes, or having to identify myself and my doctor when I'm in the waiting room of my health centre, but that's life. My college has a particular day/time of the week when STD tests are run - did I like having to go in at that time, and sitting in a waiting room where people knew I was probably having an STD test? Of course not, but what am I going to do, sneak in the back entrance?

Unless you're a hermit, there's only a limited amount of privacy you can realistically expect.

Marzipan85

true-or-false wrote: »

Data protection is about protecting your important official identifying information and other details, not about protecting your ability to keep details you find admitting uncomfortable from people. In addition data protection applies to data held on things like paper, computers, pictures. Not people's ears and memories.

Your address should be data protected, but because it can identify you, not because you might find it embarrassing.

Fair enough. It's just ironic I suppose.

StewartGriffin

thebman wrote: »

It has, they spend all their time trying to make it as horrible as possible an experience in the hope people won't turn up.

And they applied the same logic to the health service (and every other service if you think about it).

My name is URL

What kind of privacy are looking for? =/

SW offices are just as 'private' as motor tax, or post offices. Unless they're filling in forms for you then there should be no reason to divulge any personal info... let alone worry about people overhearing you.

Cd_doe

I think people should have to sign on weekly, it would annoy the career dole folk...

Besides its not like they won't have the time to do it!

PizzamanIRL

Do you mean privacy as in you don't want to be seen claiming the dole?

biko

Never have I been in a dole office.

Ciderswigger

biko wrote: »

Never have I been in a dole office.

*takes a shot*

Karl Stein

People on the dole should have electronic tracking and behaviour modification devices implanted in them. The device could administer a little shock every time the scrounger does something undesirable like buy a pouch of tobacco or a few cans.

Teyla Emmagan

biko wrote: »

Never have I been in a dole office.

I've been a couple of times. Sure it was grand, no shame in it.

Nowhere to wee though.

yore

mikemac1 wrote: »

Trying Nenagh dole office OP. It's so small people queue in the lane outside while 600 students from the CBS walk past at lunchtime

The offices in Dublin and Galway I've seen you can queue inside

Aw jaysus. ya poor creatur. I'd have a few alternative suggestions for you

1) Tell them to build you a nice climate-controlled and private waiting area
2) Force the school to keep their kids inside at lunchtime
or
3) Get up ta fuck out of your leaba a bit earlier. Unless you're otherwise too busy with your daily schedule

:P

Marzipan85 wrote: »

Was in Nutgrove dole office and heard a guy saying he's now resident in John of God's. Is that fair? That I know he's a psychiatric patient? I don't think so. There needs to be more privacy. All this crap about data protection, and yet people are forced to explain sensitive information about themselves within earshot of 10 or 20 randomers.

Ah well, look at it this way. At least you were decent enough to keep it to yourself and not tell anyone else about it. Oh, wait....... oh oh, now the interweb knows!!

futtyman

biko wrote: »

Never have I been in a dole office.

Good for you bro

Lenin Skynard

It's actually quite satisfying having your tax money handed back to you while the roads outside are in ****e and public money is going nowhere. I'd sign on standing on a plinth in the middle of the town centre if I could.

Sir Oxman

biko wrote: »

Never have I been in a dole office.

Go on and visit one, sure according to AH it's the Irish Dreamfactory.

confuseddotcom

Have to say twice in the last few weeks I was in there, big long queues both times in a tiny cramped shtix office, 2 women were going through divorces and had to discuss all that like in full public view. It's bad enough having to discuss your own personal / private-life business like that against your will when it's a public arena open-plan-office set up the way it is, but they have at least 2 back-offices they could have brought those 2 women into for even a scrap of saving-grace for their humility and privacy when going through a difficult time like that, but they didn't, everyone just standing around, listening / trying not to listen etc. Highly unpleasant.

deisedevil

While signing on after losing my long term job through redundancy a few years back I witnessed something extremely cruel. My friends mother was ahead of me, the social welfare office packed. She had found out recently that she had cancer and was undergoing treatment. She approached the counter and started to explain the difficulties she was having in claiming disability allowance, or something like that, after having to leave her job and was made go through all the harrowing details of the situation she was in right in front of everyone there. People were staring at her, pointing at her and whispering. Very few would have known she had cancer, many more would know after that day. I was so angry watching it. Not everyone walking into the social welfare office is a scrounger. Why should the decent hard working people of Ireland, let down by their own government, have to be made feel like beggars and looked upon like dirt. It's amazing how those still in jobs can look down on those who were made redundant or lost a job through illness. This country is still the same, those who have, not giving a damn about and laughing down their nose at those who don't.

stateofflux

Cathal Cloch wrote: »

People on the dole should have electronic tracking and behaviour modification devices implanted in them. The device could administer a little shock every time the scrounger does something undesirable like buy a pouch of tobacco or a few cans.

lol thats hilarious. also if any of them talk while building the new railway line they will be shot on site

garv123

yore wrote: »

Aw jaysus. ya poor creatur. I'd have a few alternative suggestions for you

1) Tell them to build you a nice climate-controlled and private waiting area
2) Force the school to keep their kids inside at lunchtime
or
3) Get up ta fuck out of your leaba a bit earlier. Unless you're otherwise too busy with your daily schedule

!

Can probably only make it there on their lunch break from work.

Son Of A Vidic

Marzipan85 wrote: »

All this crap about data protection, and yet people are forced to explain sensitive information about themselves within earshot of 10 or 20 randomers.

Randomers? Wtf is a 'randomer'? They hardly just wandered in off the street for no reason ffs. And since it is very likely they were also unemployed, I suspect their presence there was very much planned and thus not 'random' at all.

Unless....

Randomer 1: "Hey mick."

Randomer 2: "Sup."

Randomer 1: "Lets randomly head to the dole office and just be random and stuff."

Randoemr 2: "K."

Lapin

yore wrote: »

Aw jaysus. ya poor creatur. I'd have a few alternative suggestions for you

1) Tell them to build you a nice climate-controlled and private waiting area
2) Force the school to keep their kids inside at lunchtime
or
3) Get up ta fuck out of your leaba a bit earlier. Unless you're otherwise too busy with your daily schedule

:P



Ah well, look at it this way. At least you were decent enough to keep it to yourself and not tell anyone else about it. Oh, wait....... oh oh, now the interweb knows!!

What a wanker ^^^^

Annasopra

Cathal Cloch wrote: »

People on the dole should have electronic tracking and behaviour modification devices implanted in them. The device could administer a little shock every time the scrounger does something undesirable like buy a pouch of tobacco or a few cans.

Jaysus I never knew that working people don't drink or smoke

Fr_Dougal

mango salsa wrote: »

Jaysus I never knew that working people don't drink or smoke

Whoosh!

Murt10

confuseddotcom wrote: »

Have to say twice in the last few weeks I was in there, big long queues both times in a tiny cramped shtix office, 2 women were going through divorces and had to discuss all that like in full public view. It's bad enough having to discuss your own personal / private-life business like that against your will when it's a public arena open-plan-office set up the way it is, but they have at least 2 back-offices they could have brought those 2 women into for even a scrap of saving-grace for their humility and privacy when going through a difficult time like that, but they didn't, everyone just standing around, listening / trying not to listen etc. Highly unpleasant.

Did you complain at the time? Did you ask for the supervisor and tell him/her that they are allowing their staff to behave in a despicable manner by not recognising peoples right to privacy? Did you write a letter to the Department afterwards? Did you contact your local TD's and complain about the lack of privacy?

If no one complains then the Department will be unaware of what is happening and this treatment will continue forever.

Complaining on an internet forum without even identifying the office in question won't solve anything.

yore

Murt10 wrote: »

Did you complain at the time? Did you ask for the supervisor and tell him/her that they are allowing their staff to behave in a despicable manner by not recognising peoples right to privacy? Did you write a letter to the Department afterwards? Did you contact your local TD's and complain about the lack of privacy?

If no one complains then the Department will be unaware of what is happening and this treatment will continue forever.

Complaining on an internet forum without even identifying the office in question won't solve anything.

Ah sure no need to complain. Sure the people in the queue wouldn't be able to understand, what with the majority of them being for-dern-ers who can't speaky da English (or Irish) anyway *




* This post is a joke. My bad attempt at satire against some views you'll see here on AH. Don't get your collective knickers in a twist. Only an idiot could take it seriously and/or literally. Some people on here can't take a bit of craic. I'm not making fun of people on the dole!

yore

Lapin wrote: »

What a wanker ^^^^

You love it baby

confuseddotcom

Murt10 wrote: »

Did you complain at the time? Did you ask for the supervisor and tell him/her that they are allowing their staff to behave in a despicable manner by not recognising peoples right to privacy? Did you write a letter to the Department afterwards? Did you contact your local TD's and complain about the lack of privacy?

No. No. No. No.

Murt10 wrote: »

If no one complains then the Department will be unaware of what is happening and this treatment will continue forever.

Atari Jaguar.

Murt10 wrote: »

Complaining on an internet forum without even identifying the office in question won't solve anything.

Yes.



Can I hire you so as my Lawyer, how much do you charge for a consult?

JD DABA

I can see how some might find it shameful

............. if it wasn't for the fact that unemployment has been at near record highs for the last 6 years and unemployment in Europe is in the 10's of millions while a global financial crisis is keeping the Euro rightly fcked.

At the same time the govt either have in the past ,or will in the future, take it right back for various reasons, some of them which are laughable.

The ones who should be walking round with paper bags over their heads are the very sort who wouldnt think twice about being embarassed at fcking an entire country......basically because they have borderline/psychopathic personalities.

Bench Press

CJC999 wrote: »

So your worried that all the other people with no job are going to find out that you have no job too?

are people not entitled to some sense of dignity and respect? not everyone on the dole is a waster

JD DABA

confuseddotcom wrote: »

2 women were going through divorces and had to discuss all that like in full public view. ...but they have at least 2 back-offices they could have brought those 2 women into for even a scrap of saving-grace for their humility and privacy when going through a difficult time like that.

They have nice black leather couches in those back offices.

confuseddotcom

Probably a few flat-screens too, maybe a drinks-cabinet....... :pac:

Ham Wallet

You dont deserve privacy if youre on the dole in the first place

RossyG

Ham Wallet wrote: »

You dont deserve privacy if youre on the dole in the first place

Really? Why's that?