Tips... Do u give them?

steirishrover

I work as a delivery driver for a take away restauraunt and I'm amazed at the amount of people that don't tip.

If I ordered food to my door I wouldn't even think about going to the door without having a tip for the driver...

I also was talking to waitresses in the restaurant and they also said you wouldn't believe amount of times that people don't tip...

I have this regular delivery to a house & the girl gives 30cent all the time while ordering around €35 worth of food... I feel like saying keep it. So I ask the people of After Hours do you tip when your out or getting take aways?

Skid X

Not if there is a delivery charge ... I'm not made of money.

meoklmrk91

This is Ireland not America, we have decent minimum wage, why should I pay you to do the job you are already being paid to do?

antodeco

That's what she said!

/way too easy

Duggys Housemate

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

This is Ireland not America, we have decent minimum wage, why you I pay you to do the job you are already being paid to do?

Tips are a form of profit sharing.

Lenin Skynard

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

This is Ireland not America, we have decent minimum wage, why you I pay you to do the job you are already being paid to do?

Drivers for companies like Dominos are paid a good bit below minimum wage on the basis that will be tipped.

steirishrover

Skid X wrote: »

Not if there is a delivery charge ... I'm not made of money.

It's free delivery where I work

lertsnim

If there is a delivery charge then there is not a hope of me paying a tip.

GerB40

If i had a few quid to spare i would definitely leave a tip. But didn't tipping start in America because the minimum wage is so low? The minmum wage in Ireland is much higher so people shouldn't feel obliged to tip. I suppose it depends on the person you're delivering to.

B0X

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

Drivers for companies like Dominos are paid a good bit below minimum wage on the basis that will be tipped.

I don't think that's true in Ireland. Minimum wage is minimum wage. The only way you can be paid less is if your employer is paying for your accommodation.

mad turnip

I order so much takeaway I feel bad If I don't tip. My order is usually 5e and I spend 8e in total on delivery charge and a tip and i'm a student how nice am I.

stefan idiot jones

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

Drivers for companies like Dominos are paid a good bit below minimum wage on the basis that will be tipped.

How can they get paid less than minimum wage ?

Grayson

I have a standard order that's just over 15. So every second time i tell em to keep the change of the 20.

Turtyturd

Don't put black shoe polish on brown shoes.

GerB40

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

Drivers for companies like Dominos are paid a good bit below minimum wage on the basis that will be tipped.

That can't be legal. You can't just break wage laws on assumption. Im calling shenanigan on that one..

Skid X

steirishrover wrote: »

It's free delivery where I work

Then I would usually give you a few euro, if I had it. But I wouldn't feel bad about not tipping the delivery guy, to be honest.

GerB40

GerB40 wrote: »

That can't be legal. You can't just break wage laws on assumption. Im calling shenanigan on that one..

It's perfectly legal to work for less than min wage under various circumstances

Still, "on the basis of being tipped" isn't one of them afaik

Mr.Prodston

Why would you tip somebody to do something that they are being payed to do? :eek: What is it about food delivery, be it waiting staff or home delivery that differs from other lines of work? I don't believe that not doing anything un-towards with the food while it is in transit warrants a tip.

Once in a blue moon when I was working in a supermarket would I get a euro for bringing out somebody's shopping and I would be genuinely embarrassed about taking it. It was part of my job to do that and to be honest it was nice to get some fresh air, get out of the place.

If say somebody was delivering a piano and they brought it up stairs and set things up then that may be tip worthy but tipping in general really grinds my gears :mad:

If the meal cost €19 then I wouldn't mind leaving the spare euro over most of the time

stefan idiot jones

bluewolf wrote: »

It's perfectly legal to work for less than min wage under various circumstances

Still, "on the basis of being tipped" isn't one of them afaik

What circumstances ?

Lenin Skynard

GerB40 wrote: »

That can't be legal. You can't just break wage laws on assumption. Im calling shenanigan on that one..

Well I've done the job and the rate was something like €3.50 an hour with €1 per delivery. You sign with them as a contractor, not an employee so the minimum wage doesn't apply.

stefan idiot jones

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

What circumstances ?

Sub-minimum rates
Since 1 July 2011 the National Minimum Wage Act provides the following sub-minimum rates, see also 'Rates' below:

An employee who is under 18 is entitled to €6.06 per hour (this is 70% of the minimum wage)
An employee who is in the first year of employment since the age of 18 is entitled to €6.92 per hour (80% of minimum wage)
An employee who is in the second year of employment since the date of first employment over the age of 18 is entitled to €7.79 per hour (90% of the minimum wage)
Trainees
The National Minimum Wage Act also provides sub-minimum rates which apply to employees who are over 18 and undergoing a course of structured training or directed study that is authorised or approved of by the employer.

Since 1 July 2011 the trainee rates provided by the Act are as follows, see also 'Rates' below:

First one-third of training course €6.49 per hour (75% of national minimum wage rate)
Second one-third of training course €6.92 per hour (80% of national minimum wage rate)
Final one third of the training course €7.79 per hour (90% of national minimum wage rate)
Note: each one third period must be at least one month and no more than one year.

The Act provides certain criteria which the training course must meet if the trainee rates are to apply. For example, the training or study must be for the purposes of improving the work performance of the employee; the employee's participation on the training or study must be directed or approved by the employer; at least 10% of the training must occur away from the employee’s ordinary operational duties; there must be an assessment and certification procedure or written confirmation on the completion of the training course.

Exemption for employer
If an employer cannot afford to pay the national minimum wage due to financial difficulty the Labour Court may exempt an employer from paying the minimum wage rate for between 3 months and one year. Only one such exemption can be allowed.

The employer must apply to the Labour Court for the exemption with the consent of a majority of the employees, who must also agree to be bound by the Labour Court decision.

The employer must demonstrate that he/she is unable to pay the national minimum wage and that, if compelled to do so, would have to lay-off employees or terminate their employment.

An exemption may only be sought from paying the full rate of the national minimum wage, not for cases covered by the reduced rate, for example, employees who are under 18 years of age.

666irishguy

I never tip. Tipping is am Americanism that has been imported from Hollywood movies. As far as I am concerned we have the minimum wage here and that negates the primary purpose of tipping which is to boost the income of the low paid American service industry workers on the grounds of how good their service was. To expect to be paid more for doing your job because you were pleasant or arrived on time is a joke.

Diabhal Beag

I always tip if the service is good and I know the people rely on tips. Only time I wouldn't tip is if food turns up late for delivery or if I feel the people serving have hampered my experience in a restaurant. Late deliveries happen far more frequently though.

McDermotX

Depends how quick it comes.

generalmental

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

Drivers for companies like Dominos are paid a good bit below minimum wage on the basis that will be tipped.

I can tell you exactly what they get Dominos pay the driver €3.50 per delivery i know it sounds alot but its not many a night i would only get 5-6 deliveries over a 7 hour shift so if you got no tips you were working a 7 hour shift for 24.50

The Backwards Man

I always tip where I receive excellent service.

Turtyturd

generalmental wrote: »

I can tell you exactly what they get Dominos pay the driver €3.50 per delivery i know it sounds alot but its not many a night i would only get 5-6 deliveries over a 7 hour shift so if you got no tips you were working a 7 hour shift for 24.50

Is this a second job for many drivers?

con___manx1

i worked at the winter olympics behind the bar at the hockey stadium in vancouver. we were told that we were not allowed to take tips. i think it was because a beer was 8 dollars . i threw a tea towel on d table if i got a tip id throw d towel on top of it. then snake it into my pocket lol.

no why the hell should i

Duggys Housemate

666irishguy wrote: »

I never tip. Tipping is am Americanism that has been imported from Hollywood movies. As far as I am concerned we have the minimum wage here and that negates the primary purpose of tipping which is to boost the income of the low paid American service industry workers on the grounds of how good their service was. To expect to be paid more for doing your job because you were pleasant or arrived on time is a joke.

We've always tipped for table service here. And why should people just earn minimum wage?

Tombi!

For deliveries, yes. Usually 9/10 times I'll give a euro at least. Usually round it up to the nearest 5. Or if it's something like 6.50, I'd just ask for two euro back.

I never really eat out but I imagine if I did, I'd still tip.

Now that I think of it, since I started ordering food, I'd always tip. The only time I haven't is when I genuinely didn't have enough; and by then I was ordering from the same two-three places that they'd know it was just a one off.

Oddly, nearly all of the delivery drivers seem very thankful and surprised, even if they've been coming here for a long time.

I guess many people don't tip.

mealosh

I worked in a takeaway until recently and the drivers weren't paid minimum wage, it was about 5 euro per hour + 2.50 per delivery. Minimum wage obviously didn't apply here either considering they were paid in cash at the end of the night. I'm not saying tips should or shouldn't be given, just suggesting that people using the premise that drivers are paid well for what they do might want to reconsider!

generalmental

Turtyturd wrote: »

Is this a second job for many drivers?

I cant speak for all the drivers but for me it was my only job.till i got a new one that is.

Duggys Housemate

So the 3:50 per delivery. Are you contractors or employees? It seems like they must be using a loop hole.

Daveysil15

I don't think I have ever tipped in Ireland.

generalmental

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

So the 3:50 per delivery. Are you contractors or employees? It seems like they must be using a loop hole.

Defo a loophole but i was there as a contractor. They would have loads of drivers on cause they didnt care bout the drivers they only wanted pizza delivered on time.
And you were only allowed to take a maximum of 2 deliveries even if there was 3 deliveries ordered on the same street.was a horrible place to work

Duggys Housemate

So there are people who don't tip at restaurants?

Electric Sheep

mealosh wrote: »

I worked in a takeaway until recently and the drivers weren't paid minimum wage, it was about 5 euro per hour + 2.50 per delivery. Minimum wage obviously didn't apply here either considering they were paid in cash at the end of the night. I'm not saying tips should or shouldn't be given, just suggesting that people using the premise that drivers are paid well for what they do might want to reconsider!

Well if they are paid in cash I guess we can consider the tax they are not paying and the dole they are probably drawing as the tip.

Duggys Housemate

Electric Sheep wrote: »

Well if they are paid in cash I guess we can consider the tax they are not paying and the dole they are probably drawing as the tip.

Or you could tip.

pragmatic1

Almost always unless the service is bad or the person lacks basic manners.

generalmental

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

So there are people who don't tip at restaurants?

it all depends for myself if there is a service charge and the service is bad there will be no tip from myself.but if its good i will throw a few quid in.

If there is no service charge will always tip how big the tip,is up to the ppl who are serving the food

Lenin Skynard

generalmental wrote: »

it all depends for myself if there is a service charge and the service is bad there will be no tip from myself.but if its good i will throw a few quid in.

If there is no service charge will always tip how big the tip,is up to the ppl who are serving the food

And you probably noticed yourself that when an address known for tipping pops up the screen, the drivers are climbing over each other to take it. I only did the job for three or four months but I always tip now, because I know I'm much more likely to get the food faster.

Duggys Housemate

For table service I always tip unless the meal is late or the service rude

generalmental

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

And you probably noticed yourself that when an address known for tipping pops up the screen, the drivers are climbing over each other to take it. I only did the job for three or four months but I always tip now, because I know I'm much more likely to get the food faster.

Not the one where i worked.i will give them credit for that one they worked it on the basis of next up takes next delivery whether they tip or not

mealosh

Electric Sheep wrote: »

Well if they are paid in cash I guess we can consider the tax they are not paying and the dole they are probably drawing as the tip.

The tax that they'd be paying on the extraordinarily high salary they're earning?! And as for the dole comment: none of the drivers I knew were using the job to secretly earn money, unfortunately it wasn't as conspiratorial as you would like to think!:)

Hownowcow

I generally do tip. The amount of the tip depends on the quality of the service.

I even tried to tip in Burger King and McDonalds. The Burger King attempt happened in Dublin years ago and the McDonalds attempt happened in the U.S. more recently. On both occasions the person serving was dealing with behaviour above and beyond the call of duty. On both occasions the person serving refused the tip saying it was against company policy. On both occasions the person serving gave me the most wonderful smile. Made my days.

snubbleste

No.

ALiasEX

I work in IT Support. Any time I get a call from someone new I always go to them immediately and do everything I can to try and fix the problem. If they don't tip I usually take a day or two to get to them the next time even if there are no other calls.

Not true.

Under no circumstances do I tip anyone.

mikemac1

Hardest working man in the kitchen is the kitchen porter and they see no tips.

Carrying plates, taking orders and clearing tables is piss easy work in comparison and they get the tips

I've done both jobs

Duggys Housemate

ALiasEX wrote: »

I work in IT Support. Any time I get a call from someone new I always go to them immediately and do everything I can to try and fix the problem. If they don't tip I usually take a day or two to get to them the next time even if there are no other calls.

Not true.

Under no circumstances do I tip anyone.

Rubbish analogy.

The excuses for sheer greed here are appalling.

Duggys Housemate

mikemac1 wrote: »

Hardest working man in the kitchen is the kitchen porter and they see no tips.

Carrying plates, taking orders and clearing tables is piss easy work in comparison and they get the tips

I've done both jobs

In the US all tips are shared with staff on that night.