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Tips... Do u give them?

  • 01-06-2013 01:28PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭steirishrover


    I work as a delivery driver for a take away restauraunt and I'm amazed at the amount of people that don't tip.

    If I ordered food to my door I wouldn't even think about going to the door without having a tip for the driver...

    I also was talking to waitresses in the restaurant and they also said you wouldn't believe amount of times that people don't tip...

    I have this regular delivery to a house & the girl gives 30cent all the time while ordering around €35 worth of food... I feel like saying keep it. So I ask the people of After Hours do you tip when your out or getting take aways?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,444 ✭✭✭✭Skid X


    Not if there is a delivery charge ... I'm not made of money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,083 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    This is Ireland not America, we have decent minimum wage, why should I pay you to do the job you are already being paid to do?


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,691 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    That's what she said!

    /way too easy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    This is Ireland not America, we have decent minimum wage, why you I pay you to do the job you are already being paid to do?

    Tips are a form of profit sharing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    This is Ireland not America, we have decent minimum wage, why you I pay you to do the job you are already being paid to do?

    Drivers for companies like Dominos are paid a good bit below minimum wage on the basis that will be tipped.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭steirishrover


    Skid X wrote: »
    Not if there is a delivery charge ... I'm not made of money.

    It's free delivery where I work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,957 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    If there is a delivery charge then there is not a hope of me paying a tip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭GerB40


    If i had a few quid to spare i would definitely leave a tip. But didn't tipping start in America because the minimum wage is so low? The minmum wage in Ireland is much higher so people shouldn't feel obliged to tip. I suppose it depends on the person you're delivering to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭B0X


    Drivers for companies like Dominos are paid a good bit below minimum wage on the basis that will be tipped.

    I don't think that's true in Ireland. Minimum wage is minimum wage. The only way you can be paid less is if your employer is paying for your accommodation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭mad turnip


    I order so much takeaway I feel bad If I don't tip. My order is usually 5e and I spend 8e in total on delivery charge and a tip and i'm a student :) how nice am I.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭stefan idiot jones


    Drivers for companies like Dominos are paid a good bit below minimum wage on the basis that will be tipped.

    How can they get paid less than minimum wage ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,875 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I have a standard order that's just over 15. So every second time i tell em to keep the change of the 20.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Don't put black shoe polish on brown shoes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭GerB40


    Drivers for companies like Dominos are paid a good bit below minimum wage on the basis that will be tipped.
    That can't be legal. You can't just break wage laws on assumption. Im calling shenanigan on that one..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,444 ✭✭✭✭Skid X


    It's free delivery where I work

    Then I would usually give you a few euro, if I had it. But I wouldn't feel bad about not tipping the delivery guy, to be honest.


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Remy Breezy Barbell


    GerB40 wrote: »
    That can't be legal. You can't just break wage laws on assumption. Im calling shenanigan on that one..

    It's perfectly legal to work for less than min wage under various circumstances

    Still, "on the basis of being tipped" isn't one of them afaik


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,305 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Prodston


    Why would you tip somebody to do something that they are being payed to do? :eek: What is it about food delivery, be it waiting staff or home delivery that differs from other lines of work? I don't believe that not doing anything un-towards with the food while it is in transit warrants a tip.

    Once in a blue moon when I was working in a supermarket would I get a euro for bringing out somebody's shopping and I would be genuinely embarrassed about taking it. It was part of my job to do that and to be honest it was nice to get some fresh air, get out of the place.

    If say somebody was delivering a piano and they brought it up stairs and set things up then that may be tip worthy but tipping in general really grinds my gears :mad:

    If the meal cost €19 then I wouldn't mind leaving the spare euro over most of the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭stefan idiot jones


    bluewolf wrote: »
    It's perfectly legal to work for less than min wage under various circumstances

    Still, "on the basis of being tipped" isn't one of them afaik

    What circumstances ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    GerB40 wrote: »
    That can't be legal. You can't just break wage laws on assumption. Im calling shenanigan on that one..

    Well I've done the job and the rate was something like €3.50 an hour with €1 per delivery. You sign with them as a contractor, not an employee so the minimum wage doesn't apply.


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Remy Breezy Barbell


    What circumstances ?

    Sub-minimum rates
    Since 1 July 2011 the National Minimum Wage Act provides the following sub-minimum rates, see also 'Rates' below:

    An employee who is under 18 is entitled to €6.06 per hour (this is 70% of the minimum wage)
    An employee who is in the first year of employment since the age of 18 is entitled to €6.92 per hour (80% of minimum wage)
    An employee who is in the second year of employment since the date of first employment over the age of 18 is entitled to €7.79 per hour (90% of the minimum wage)
    Trainees
    The National Minimum Wage Act also provides sub-minimum rates which apply to employees who are over 18 and undergoing a course of structured training or directed study that is authorised or approved of by the employer.

    Since 1 July 2011 the trainee rates provided by the Act are as follows, see also 'Rates' below:

    First one-third of training course €6.49 per hour (75% of national minimum wage rate)
    Second one-third of training course €6.92 per hour (80% of national minimum wage rate)
    Final one third of the training course €7.79 per hour (90% of national minimum wage rate)
    Note: each one third period must be at least one month and no more than one year.

    The Act provides certain criteria which the training course must meet if the trainee rates are to apply. For example, the training or study must be for the purposes of improving the work performance of the employee; the employee's participation on the training or study must be directed or approved by the employer; at least 10% of the training must occur away from the employee’s ordinary operational duties; there must be an assessment and certification procedure or written confirmation on the completion of the training course.

    Exemption for employer
    If an employer cannot afford to pay the national minimum wage due to financial difficulty the Labour Court may exempt an employer from paying the minimum wage rate for between 3 months and one year. Only one such exemption can be allowed.

    The employer must apply to the Labour Court for the exemption with the consent of a majority of the employees, who must also agree to be bound by the Labour Court decision.

    The employer must demonstrate that he/she is unable to pay the national minimum wage and that, if compelled to do so, would have to lay-off employees or terminate their employment.

    An exemption may only be sought from paying the full rate of the national minimum wage, not for cases covered by the reduced rate, for example, employees who are under 18 years of age.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭666irishguy


    I never tip. Tipping is am Americanism that has been imported from Hollywood movies. As far as I am concerned we have the minimum wage here and that negates the primary purpose of tipping which is to boost the income of the low paid American service industry workers on the grounds of how good their service was. To expect to be paid more for doing your job because you were pleasant or arrived on time is a joke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    I always tip if the service is good and I know the people rely on tips. Only time I wouldn't tip is if food turns up late for delivery or if I feel the people serving have hampered my experience in a restaurant. Late deliveries happen far more frequently though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,410 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Depends how quick it comes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭generalmental


    Drivers for companies like Dominos are paid a good bit below minimum wage on the basis that will be tipped.

    I can tell you exactly what they get Dominos pay the driver €3.50 per delivery i know it sounds alot but its not many a night i would only get 5-6 deliveries over a 7 hour shift so if you got no tips you were working a 7 hour shift for 24.50


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I always tip where I receive excellent service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    I can tell you exactly what they get Dominos pay the driver €3.50 per delivery i know it sounds alot but its not many a night i would only get 5-6 deliveries over a 7 hour shift so if you got no tips you were working a 7 hour shift for 24.50

    Is this a second job for many drivers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭con___manx1


    i worked at the winter olympics behind the bar at the hockey stadium in vancouver. we were told that we were not allowed to take tips. i think it was because a beer was 8 dollars . i threw a tea towel on d table if i got a tip id throw d towel on top of it. then snake it into my pocket lol.


  • Posts: 11,734 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    no why the hell should i


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    I never tip. Tipping is am Americanism that has been imported from Hollywood movies. As far as I am concerned we have the minimum wage here and that negates the primary purpose of tipping which is to boost the income of the low paid American service industry workers on the grounds of how good their service was. To expect to be paid more for doing your job because you were pleasant or arrived on time is a joke.

    We've always tipped for table service here. And why should people just earn minimum wage?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    For deliveries, yes. Usually 9/10 times I'll give a euro at least. Usually round it up to the nearest 5. Or if it's something like 6.50, I'd just ask for two euro back.

    I never really eat out but I imagine if I did, I'd still tip.

    Now that I think of it, since I started ordering food, I'd always tip. The only time I haven't is when I genuinely didn't have enough; and by then I was ordering from the same two-three places that they'd know it was just a one off.

    Oddly, nearly all of the delivery drivers seem very thankful and surprised, even if they've been coming here for a long time.

    I guess many people don't tip.


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