How to renounce my Catholic faith

Leinsterr

Basically, I'm 16 and completely against Catholicisim. I dont mind if people believe in it and I would never discriminate but I was never given a choice as my parents baptised me. I want out straight away. My only drawback is if the Church has the same power as it does now with regards to primary and secondary education, will I be able to send my children to a first rate primary school where they aren't fed bullsh1t and will they even be allowed in it if they are not of faith. That said, if I do ever have children, I will let them decide which path to choose but they wont be baptised. Help. I need to leave.

lmaopml

Leinsterr wrote: »

Basically, I'm 16 and completely against Catholicisim. I dont mind if people believe in it and I would never discriminate but I was never given a choice as my parents baptised me. I want out straight away. My only drawback is if the Church has the same power as it does now with regards to primary and secondary education, will I be able to send my children to a first rate primary school where they aren't fed bullsh1t and will they even be allowed in it if they are not of faith. That said, if I do ever have children, I will let them decide which path to choose but they wont be baptised. Help. I need to leave.

You are sixteen. You are your own person, if you decide to leave than don't expect that other Catholics just disappear, or that everybody is the same as you are now.


If you decide you 'don't believe' than that is your choice as an adult decision - so make it on your own, all grown ups make choices that have effects and you will be no different than any other grown up who makes a decided choice that's part and parcel of the hard things...just like everybody else.



All you have to do to become a non believer is quite literally not believe and not care to know Christ at all - to listen different.

In saying that, the door is always open no matter what, no matter how impossible, no matter whom you are or who you become with the years you will live and have yet to live, it's open for you, and always will be.

keelanj69

Leinsterr wrote: »

Basically, I'm 16 and completely against Catholicisim. I dont mind if people believe in it and I would never discriminate but I was never given a choice as my parents baptised me. I want out straight away. My only drawback is if the Church has the same power as it does now with regards to primary and secondary education, will I be able to send my children to a first rate primary school where they aren't fed bullsh1t and will they even be allowed in it if they are not of faith. That said, if I do ever have children, I will let them decide which path to choose but they wont be baptised. Help. I need to leave.

'You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.'

Never. Ever. Seriously.

But hey, we all go to heaven now regardless.

vicwatson

Heaven. Yeh whatever

lmaopml

keelanj69 wrote: »

'You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.'

Never. Ever. Seriously.

But hey, we all go to heaven now regardless.

No, you can grow up and stop blaming, and start making an adult decision that you really own yourself, especially when you become an adult and aren't asking for somebody to tell you or confirm what you think is 'ok'.

It's 'ok' when you think it's 'ok' and not when some random person on the internet says you are going to heaven just because or even that you are going to hell 'just because' - it's not that simple. At sixteen granted, it can seem clear, but life is a lesson in and of itself...

Others, before you made adult decisions and still have faith - the reconciliation is hard, but it's not impossible, and they aren't yesterdays child either, they're living, walking talking people with 'faith'.

Ripleys believe it or not!

keelanj69

lmaopml wrote: »

No, you can grow up and stop blaming, and start making an adult decision that you really own yourself, especially when you become an adult and aren't asking for somebody to tell you or confirm what you think is 'ok'.

It's 'ok' when you think it's 'ok' and not when some random person on the internet says you are going to heaven just because or even that you are going to hell 'just because' - it's not that simple. At sixteen granted, it can seem clear, but life is a lesson in and of itself...

Others, before you made adult decisions and still have faith - the reconciliation is hard, but it's not impossible, and they aren't yesterdays child either, they're living, walking talking people with 'faith'.

Ripleys believe it or not!

Maybe I'm tired and it's late but your post to the OP and to me seem really bloody condescending. All this talk of big boys and girls and grown ups and adult decisions.

The OP wants to leave the church. And the church wont let him. Some people want more than just making an 'adult' decision. Some people want confirmation from someone in said church that they acknowledge that decision. Which is unavailible to the OP as of this moment.

jimjimjimmy

You can't officially leave anymore. There was a process by which you signed a deceleration of defection(typical draconian language) and your baptism cert was amended. The Vatican decided that you can never leave now once your baptised. So as an unknowing baby you are dragged into this crazy(and incredibly large) cult, for all eternity(as they crazily believe) by your parents nonetheless, which I honestly believe is physiological child abuse.

Thankfully I managed to get my "defection" granted before the rules were changed and also thankfully I can now proudly say that I am not a catholic for eternity(as they crazily believe).

Wilberto

Seeming as you posted the same query twice, I think I'll post the same reply twice....... :P



People are just going to assume your catholic anyway, whether or not you renounce your faith, on the basis that this is a supposedly catholic country.

The only way to combat it is to where a T-Shirt 24/7 stating that you're an athiest (or something to that effect).


On a broader note, I don't get why people get so worked up over being baptised etc., and wanting an explicit way of renouncing their faith. Religion is a set of beliefs (very broadly speaking) and it's up to you to believe in whatever you want to believe.

For example, I've been researching Buddhism over the past few weeks because I honestly think that fits in with what I "believe", and the way I want to live my life. But I haven't actually told anyone that I could be heading down that direction.

I guess my main point is, believe what you want to believe. What difference does it make if some fella poured a jug of water over your head or not when you were a baby.

Bozo Skeleton

There was a process set up by people who wanted out of the Catholic Church where you could opt out, via a website:

http://www.countmeout.ie/international/

But loads of people took this route, and the Catholic Church "found" some loophole to stop the exodus and you can't do it this way any more. Bastards.

murraykil

"The Lord created us in His image and likeness, and we are the image of the Lord, and He does good and all of us have this commandment at heart: do good and do not do evil. All of us. ‘But, Father, this is not Catholic! He cannot do good.’ Yes, he can... "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone!".. We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there.”

OP, don't worry about being defined as a Catholic or not; even the Pope has said it doesn't matter, just be good, be kind, basically just be nice in your life!

The rest of the boys in the vac didn't like this and are desperately trying to rebuke it!

‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there.”

Roll on the hard-core now who will tell you that you are damned OP!

Leinsterr

jimjimjimmy wrote: »

You can't officially leave anymore. There was a process by which you signed a deceleration of defection(typical draconian language) and your baptism cert was amended. The Vatican decided that you can never leave now once your baptised. So as an unknowing baby you are dragged into this crazy(and incredibly large) cult, for all eternity(as they crazily believe) by your parents nonetheless, which I honestly believe is physiological child abuse.

Thankfully I managed to get my "defection" granted before the rules were changed and also thankfully I can now proudly say that I am not a catholic for eternity(as they crazily believe).

So I'm going to be associated with this completely illogical cult for the rest of my life. Fúcking p1ssed off at the moment

Benny_Cake

Mod note: OP, you've posted the same question in A&A so they may be of more help to you there. This question has come up numerous times in the past so you should be able to find some answers by doing a search.

I'd also recommend that you, and many of the other posters who have posted here read the forum charter before posting here again - specifically what it says about swearing and insulting language. As it's doing little more than attracting trolls, this thread is closed.