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Pope says non believers can go to heaven. Is this fair?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Aced_Up



    Lolololol

    I love it. Some bloke in a funny hat says its ok... Where is the burning bush or updated tablet? I want to see proof that god changed his/her mind!

    Religion is so funny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,887 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    I don't want to go to a Catholic heaven. I don't want to go to a Muslim heaven.






    I only want to go to an atheist heaven.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    Still don't believe, but I like this Pope.

    Aced_Up wrote: »
    Lolololol

    I love it. Some bloke in a funny hat says its ok... Where is the burning bush or updated tablet? I want to see proof that god changed his/her mind!

    Religion is so funny
    Not as funny as some of the predictable responses. He's probably trying to be gracious and non-belligerent... wouldn't hurt others to try it.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,235 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    This is discrimination. That's it, I'm suing god.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    People can achieve salvation through good deeds alone?

    Since that was one of the major ideas of Luther that caused the Protestant reformation, and the catholic church has held for a long time that salvation can only be reached through them, this could get pretty interesting.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Festy


    This is one cool Pope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,149 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    It doesn't exist and who gives a toss what he says anyway?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭Ilik Urgee


    Amateur carry on from the pope there. He needs to discriminate more to keep in with the crowd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,002 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Well done Francisco sez I !

    A definite sign that this lad is capable of Jesuitical thought and no doubt about it...:D

    It sure puts it up to the Crazier Clerical inhabitants of Mount Islam though....Anjam Chaudry,Abu Hamza & Co must be laughing their tolerant and peaceful socks off at the very notion of an unbeliever retaining their bodily integrity,never mind gettin into heaven !!!!


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Aced_Up


    Still don't believe, but I like this Pope.



    Not as funny as some of the predictable responses. He's probably trying to be gracious and non-belligerent... wouldn't hurt others to try it.

    It's a desperate lunge to sort out the Vatican finances. ;)

    I've no interest what these hierarchical subjects have to say, like every one of them... Politicians included (bar a few good ones)... Is just hypocritical rubbish.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The Pope is a secret Atheist


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    Aced_Up wrote: »
    It's a desperate lunge to sort out the Vatican finances. ;)

    ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭DublinArnie


    I don't want to go to heaven or hell, I want to be re-born as a different person or animal :p.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,454 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    It doesn't exist and who gives a toss what he says anyway?

    Agreed. Wouldnt mind if I could brainwash meself into believing there was a heaven. Nice thought. Yee believers are so lucky (just on the heaven bit).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    I want to go to the Heaven which has Hunter S. Thompson, Bill Hicks and Stevie Ray Vaughan. Guinness is water there and everyday is June 12th, 1994.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    It doesn't exist and who gives a toss what he says anyway?

    Even if you don't believe in it stuff like this it can have a major effect on world affairs and the way millions of people live their lives. Stuff like this was enough to start major international wars not so long ago, it's an idea being put forward by the new leader of an international institution that is contrary to the established position held by them for a very long time, so it's still pretty interesting stuff.

    I've never understood why some athiests think that just because they don't believe in religion that religion is therefore completely disregarded.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    The whole "non-believers don't go to heaven" thing was always bullshit if you thought about it. So someone deep in the middle of the Congo who hadn't a clue about some god on the otherside of the world doesn't get into heaven just out his own innocent ignorance of not knowing any better, or worse?

    Right....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Aced_Up


    Augmerson wrote: »
    I want to go to the Heaven which has Hunter S. Thompson, Bill Hicks and Stevie Ray Vaughan. Guinness is water there and everyday is June 12th, 1994.

    Was that when you tried MDMA? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Aced_Up


    1ZRed wrote: »
    The whole "non-believers don't do to heaven" thing was always bullshit if you thought about it. So someone deep in the middle of the Congo who hadn't a clue about some god on the otherside of the world doesn't get into heaven just out his own innocent ignorance of not knowing any better, or worse?

    Right....

    This person wasn't conforming... So no. Religion is about conforming. But society have new ways to make people conform... Money, jobs and police.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭duckworth


    orestes wrote: »
    People can achieve salvation through good deeds alone?

    Since that was one of the major ideas of Luther that caused the Protestant reformation, and the catholic church has held for a long time that salvation can only be reached through them, this could get pretty interesting.

    Actually Luther said the exact opposite - that it was faith alone and not good deeds. Catholicism says it is a combination.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,308 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Well, if Genghis Khan, Adolf Hitler, and Joseph Stalin can get into heaven, I don't see why not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    duckworth wrote: »
    Actually Luther said the exact opposite - that it was faith alone and not good deeds. Catholicism says it is a combination.

    Bugger, I meant that the church meant you could only get in through "them" as in the church, and one of Luthers major ideas was about this and caused the reformation. Reading it back after you pointed it out, my first post is very vague and terribly worded, sorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,170 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    1ZRed wrote: »
    The whole "non-believers don't go to heaven" thing was always bullshit if you thought about it. So someone deep in the middle of the Congo who hadn't a clue about some god on the otherside of the world doesn't get into heaven just out his own innocent ignorance of not knowing any better, or worse?

    Right....

    Anyone who hasn't heard about Jesus Christ gets a free pass from God.

    God is still a whiny cunt though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭fear corcaigh


    Religion has inflicted more death than comfort to people through the centuries.
    Whether it be the Romans, the Crusades, World War 2, Northern Ireland, Palestine or the so called Islamic extremists.

    If there was no religion there wouldn't be half the suffering that there is in the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭bazza1


    Non believers can get to heaven.....cool story bro!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Aced_Up


    Anyone who hasn't heard about Jesus Christ gets a free pass from God.

    God is still a whiny cunt though.

    Lol, suspiciously like our immigration policy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,170 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Personally I prefer reincarnation to an eternal afterlife. Eventually Heaven would just get boring, and try imagining being a famous person in Heaven - you'd just get fed up! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,834 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    1ZRed wrote: »
    The whole "non-believers don't go to heaven" thing was always bullshit if you thought about it. So someone deep in the middle of the Congo who hadn't a clue about some god on the otherside of the world doesn't get into heaven just out his own innocent ignorance of not knowing any better, or worse?

    Right....

    God is geographically biased dontcha know? :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭bazza1


    How do I cash in my plenary indulgences, built up through sodalities and retreats?

    Also,was Limbo sold on donedeal? :D


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