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Help!!!! concentration.

  • 26-05-2013 8:00am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭


    I have been playing pretty poor lately. Only managing 27-30 points in recent rounds. The most fustrating part is I seem to be only play at maximum a couple of good holes back to back and then my concentration falls apart. Eg yesterday I bogied the first parred the next two and then wallop fell apart for about ten holes before scoring any thing more than a one. I am playing off 19 soon to be twenty after this weekend. But I need some tips to keep myself tuned in!! Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Not sure they'd work for everyone but for me I try to always walk upright, shoulders back chin up, so it feels like a purposeful confident walk between shots.

    Also try as your getting to your ball or getting set to shoot to just take a couple of deep breaths & really just concentrate on your breathing & nothing else. It's a great way to clear all distracting thoughts from your mind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Benny Cake


    Pre-shot routine is the key. You can be as relaxed as you like walking between shots but your routine should start from the moment you pull the club from the bag. Having the same routine every time will help eliminate mistakes due to poor concentration....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Running Balance


    Cheers for that. Good point about once the club comes out to "get in the zone"" excuse the Americanism!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,367 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    don't try to concentrate between shots, you will wear yourself out.
    focus on the minute or two over the ball and then wipe the slate and start again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭For Paws


    Friend of mine is a great guy to play golf with.
    He really enjoys the craic between shots and helps everyone enjoy the day.

    But as soon as he reaches his ball, he announces 'ok, we're back live' and switches his concentration to his setup & swing. Then he comes back to us until he reaches his ball.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭mag


    pia nilsson has written some of the best advice ive read on this, for example. one of the core principles being like is mentioned above - step into & out of the 'playing zone' before and after your shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Running Balance


    For Paws wrote: »
    Friend of mine is a great guy to play golf with.
    He really enjoys the craic between shots and helps everyone enjoy the day.

    But as soon as he reaches his ball, he announces 'ok, we're back live' and switches his concentration to his setup & swing. Then he comes back to us until he reaches his ball.

    that's brilliant, I think if I started saying that I d be laughing to myself so much I d prob forgot to hold to keep hold of the club. I notice some of the guys in the society in play with don't speak at all during a round (concentrating they say) A bit extreme I think and makes it a bit of an awkward days golf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    concentration and just the mental aspect has been something I've battled with for going on 7 years now.

    It's a horrible place to be, and it's a horrible thing to get out of .

    I think for me , I'm still clinging to, or have some affiliation when I was playing of 6, and it's like I still think I'm at that level, when I'm just not. I get seriously frustrated and tend to be a bit ragefilled on the course, and it's something I'm really trying to deal with, but nothing has been working. This then leads to a lack of interest, a loss in concentration and inevitably bad scores ( where the start of the round would be good)

    Will watch this thread with interest. I had a bit of a lesson on Sunday after being level par through 8 to having a stupid double on the 9th that led me to kick my putter, bend the head, and having to drop it into the proshop for realignment. But moreso affecting the rest of the round giving me no chance.

    It also dawned on me that this wasn't the first time I'd kicked the putter, so its probably been off line for some time :D So most probably an expensive lesson that hopefully I'll ****ing learn from .....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,003 ✭✭✭Kevinmarkham


    TheDoc wrote: »
    concentration and just the mental aspect has been something I've battled with for going on 7 years now.

    It's a horrible place to be, and it's a horrible thing to get out of .

    I think for me , I'm still clinging to, or have some affiliation when I was playing of 6, and it's like I still think I'm at that level, when I'm just not. I get seriously frustrated and tend to be a bit ragefilled on the course, and it's something I'm really trying to deal with, but nothing has been working. This then leads to a lack of interest, a loss in concentration and inevitably bad scores ( where the start of the round would be good)

    Oi, get out of my head! That describes me perfectly.

    I liked the story about Rory and - post his Augusta collapse - how he hums a tune to himself as he sets up to take a putt... like a release button. I guess that's what the red dot is/was on Oosthuizen's glove. It's about getting into the zone and having a trigger.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    TheDoc wrote: »
    concentration and just the mental aspect has been something I've battled with for going on 7 years now.

    It's a horrible place to be, and it's a horrible thing to get out of .

    I think for me , I'm still clinging to, or have some affiliation when I was playing of 6, and it's like I still think I'm at that level, when I'm just not. I get seriously frustrated and tend to be a bit ragefilled on the course, and it's something I'm really trying to deal with, but nothing has been working. This then leads to a lack of interest, a loss in concentration and inevitably bad scores ( where the start of the round would be good)

    Will watch this thread with interest. I had a bit of a lesson on Sunday after being level par through 8 to having a stupid double on the 9th that led me to kick my putter, bend the head, and having to drop it into the proshop for realignment. But moreso affecting the rest of the round giving me no chance.

    It also dawned on me that this wasn't the first time I'd kicked the putter, so its probably been off line for some time :D So most probably an expensive lesson that hopefully I'll ****ing learn from .....
    You really need a reality check! Sorry if that sounds harsh :o

    You had double, big deal...if I had told you on the first tee that you would have been +2 standing on the 10th tee box would you have taken it? I bet you would have.

    I've had my issues with my temper but I'm getting there but I'm not a pro golfer nor is it my day job so mistakes are going to be made no matter how hard we try to prevent them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,367 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Try to chew gum when you play, its impossible to hit a tension filled shot when you are chewing (or humming, or holding your mouth open)

    Being so tense that you blow up after a bad shot is detrimental and not helping your game at all...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭DuckSlice


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Try to chew gum when you play, its impossible to hit a tension filled shot when you are chewing (or humming, or holding your mouth open)

    Being so tense that you blow up after a bad shot is detrimental and not helping your game at all...

    I hate playing with people that blow up after a bad shot, unfortunately my dad is one of them!! Throwing clubs around!! I don't mind someone talking to themselves after a **** but hate the while losing temper!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,268 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    I reckon concentration is killing my game too, seem to start off great and then blow up for a few holes before coming back and finishing ok. Gonna keep tabs on my next round to see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,510 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Try to chew gum when you play, its impossible to hit a tension filled shot when you are chewing (or humming, or holding your mouth open)

    Being so tense that you blow up after a bad shot is detrimental and not helping your game at all...

    Could you imagine the looks you'd get if you were at the range:
    Humming over every shot
    Wearing one of these
    19720.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Wilbert13


    Keep you blood sugars up by snacking regularly during your round. I happened to mention to my GP during a visit last year that I was playing great golf but having one or two bad holes in every round due to lack of concentration and the first thing he said was blood sugars and he was spot on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭Ilik Urgee


    I've been starting rounds well recently only to fall away mid round and finishing well again. My biggest problem is not eating properly before the round, I tend to just eat when hungry outside of the spuds in the evening.
    Another thing I'm trying to do is walk away from all shots counting 3 paces away from the spot I've just hit. That's it, good or bad.
    Handy tip about the red spot on Oosthuizen's? glove to "go live".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,951 ✭✭✭SuprSi


    I was just looking at articles about this very thing over the weekend having had 2 rounds ruined by small lapses in concentration. I came across this excellent website and while I haven't had a chance to read it all, it's very insightful and has plenty of useful suggestions, some of which have already been mentioned here.

    http://www.learning4excellence.com/golfarticles.php


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭bustercherry


    The hardest part I found was being able to play 5 hours rounds :rolleyes: when I first got my handicap and starting playing in comps. The big problem I found was not eating often enough (keeping blood sugars up) leading to a drop in concentration levels mid round; in my case it usually leads to a poor shot selection/course management and hence bogies/doubles from nowhere.
    Took 6 or 7 comps (1 extra shot added to the handicap) before I figured out how to stay focused. Once I figured it out how to play comps I dropped quickly into Cat 1.

    Now ;)

    With all due respect to the OP (and a few others on here). If you playing off a high handicap and going on a run of 10 bad holes after a couple of good ones (I remember my first ever round had 4 pars, a bird and pure muck. It was nothing to do with skill but shear luck); it's most likely not the concentration that is the issue. Losing concentration may lead you to switch off a couple of shots in a round, leading to a few bad holes where you choose the wrong shot/club etc.... If you taking 4 or 5 shots to reach the green, topping the ball into bunkers, 3 putting, etc; then that's a symptom of bad technique.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    You really need a reality check! Sorry if that sounds harsh :o

    You had double, big deal...if I had told you on the first tee that you would have been +2 standing on the 10th tee box would you have taken it? I bet you would have.

    I've had my issues with my temper but I'm getting there but I'm not a pro golfer nor is it my day job so mistakes are going to be made no matter how hard we try to prevent them.

    Get where your coming from, but a three put from within ten feet, just can't accept that **** :)

    But more damaging is that when good scores are in progress, and something relatively bad happens, I get angry because I know it is probably signalling a run of bad holes about to come. I think I probably then push it to hard to keep the score in check, inevitably making it worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Try to chew gum when you play, its impossible to hit a tension filled shot when you are chewing (or humming, or holding your mouth open)

    Being so tense that you blow up after a bad shot is detrimental and not helping your game at all...

    Oddly enough I was always of the opinion chewing gum makes things worse in regards to concentration as your, well chewing gum while trying to concentrate.

    From the football days I remember chewing gum and a coach telling me to spit it, and gave a pretty insightful talk as to why it's never a good idea, bar the obvious safety factor in football, the nerves in your teeth and gums send signals to your brain of the "location" of the gum so you know how and where to chew, and this is essentially taking focus away from the task at hand.

    Probably worth a try though, I've a serious issue with realising the bad vibes. And it's one of those weird things where you just can't fix it overnight.

    I get it's annoying for playing partners, the confusing part is I'm stupidly laid back. I'm in a relatively high pressured job where I rarely phased, I played football where I'd be getting all sorts of sly acts from defenders and never reacted. Yet in golf, there is just a ****ing epic bit of temper in me.

    Had a chat with our assistant pro a while back and he said golf is probably my mechanism for releasing some anger. He advised I pick up another hobby or something to vent through that, and try get into the mindset of golf that I had with football. Makes a little sense when you think about it. After a week of work and everything else, I go out to a golfcourse and turn into an epic wanker.

    I might just set a punching bag up in the back and go ****ing mental at it before I head off for golf, and when I come back :D

    In all honesty though it's something I'm focusing on resolving now more then anything swing related or mechanical related, I think it;s the only thing holding me back, so I'm going to try a few different things to see what works and keeps me calm and comfy during a round. Will report back !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,367 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    TheDoc wrote: »
    Oddly enough I was always of the opinion chewing gum makes things worse in regards to concentration as your, well chewing gum while trying to concentrate.

    From the football days I remember chewing gum and a coach telling me to spit it, and gave a pretty insightful talk as to why it's never a good idea, bar the obvious safety factor in football, the nerves in your teeth and gums send signals to your brain of the "location" of the gum so you know how and where to chew, and this is essentially taking focus away from the task at hand.

    Probably worth a try though, I've a serious issue with realising the bad vibes. And it's one of those weird things where you just can't fix it overnight.

    I get it's annoying for playing partners, the confusing part is I'm stupidly laid back. I'm in a relatively high pressured job where I rarely phased, I played football where I'd be getting all sorts of sly acts from defenders and never reacted. Yet in golf, there is just a ****ing epic bit of temper in me.

    Had a chat with our assistant pro a while back and he said golf is probably my mechanism for releasing some anger. He advised I pick up another hobby or something to vent through that, and try get into the mindset of golf that I had with football. Makes a little sense when you think about it. After a week of work and everything else, I go out to a golfcourse and turn into an epic wanker.

    I might just set a punching bag up in the back and go ****ing mental at it before I head off for golf, and when I come back :D

    In all honesty though it's something I'm focusing on resolving now more then anything swing related or mechanical related, I think it;s the only thing holding me back, so I'm going to try a few different things to see what works and keeps me calm and comfy during a round. Will report back !

    I think the difference is that with a game like football you are supposed to be "on" for the whole game. Golf you are not.
    The period of concentration for golf is 2 mins, having something else to distract you between these 2 minute slots is a good thing imo.

    Chewing while actually hitting forces you to relax and not focus intently on hitting the ball, you dont want that as it will introduce tension.
    Keeping chewing, or humming ensures that your body is relaxed and free of tension, perfect for executing a golf swing.

    For me, the focus is required for preshot routine, when I am actually swinging I dont want any thoughts or focus, I want to relax, accept and swing away freely.

    Try humming, I bet you find it harder than you imagine to keep a constant tone or even to keep humming!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    GreeBo wrote: »
    I think the difference is that with a game like football you are supposed to be "on" for the whole game. Golf you are not.
    The period of concentration for golf is 2 mins, having something else to distract you between these 2 minute slots is a good thing imo.

    Chewing while actually hitting forces you to relax and not focus intently on hitting the ball, you dont want that as it will introduce tension.
    Keeping chewing, or humming ensures that your body is relaxed and free of tension, perfect for executing a golf swing.

    For me, the focus is required for preshot routine, when I am actually swinging I dont want any thoughts or focus, I want to relax, accept and swing away freely.

    Try humming, I bet you find it harder than you imagine to keep a constant tone or even to keep humming!

    I'll try the gum and see how I get on

    Last nights round was SHOCKING. Practice in Skerries for Jimmy Bruen, and while my game was a little off, I got totally disheartened into the round and was an absolute terror. Granted not with rage, I kept that locked up and didn't vent or anything, but felt it was definitely a negative factor.

    Although a playing partner made comment that he noticed my swing speed got faster for shots after bad holes, and would only calm back down when I hit a decent shot. Interesting comment, since I'm working alot on tempo and reducing my swing speed.

    Also something a bit mental. I'm a smoker, and I typically go through a fair amount in a round. And for some reason or another, smoking DOES not calm me down after a bad shot :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Hmm chewing gum

    Might be onto something here Greebo.

    Two rounds of 36 points, which I havn't done in singles for along time , played REALLY good stuff and more noticably no anger issues.

    Could be onto something mighty here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,511 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    one shot at a time.

    really is the best way to keep your mind in the game and your concentration on the shot at hand. It's okay to think to yourself how you want to make a par/bogey on this hole in question as you walk to the tee, but as soon as you are on your tee shot, you focus entirely on that shot and not on the rest of the hole, never mind the rest of the round.

    I know a few high handicappers who par 2-3 of the first 4 or 5 holes and start saying to themselves, today is gonna be my day, 40+ points here we come and the winners enclosure! they they blank 6 and 7 and its all over. They get too far ahead of themselves.

    One shot at a time. one shot at a time. one shot at a time :)



    btw, i sing to myself/in my head when I'm preparing to hit my shots. Works pretty well and keeps me focused on the shot in hand :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,367 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    btw, i sing to myself/in my head when I'm preparing to hit my shots. Works pretty well and keeps me focused on the shot in hand :)

    I often sing "Nobody does it better" by Carly Simon (Bond, The Spy Who Loved Me) to myself while skiing...there is a lot to be said for it. If you get a song that suits the tempo of your natural swing then its perfect, easier imo than saying 1,2,3 or a specific word like some people do.

    And there is nothing wrong with being a little bit mental either.:pac:


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