Political Correctness with the BBC !

handlemaster

The story outlined below from the Irish times, BBC Question time in Belfast last night had a floor plan with SF/ IRA ! written on it. I know Sinn Fein have tried to distance themselves from themselves... I mean the IRA but arent they one and the same. Where did SF come from ? If nothing else its funny to see the political correctness of on screen gives way to the reality behind.



http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/bbc-apologises-after-sinn-f%C3%A9in-minister-complains-over-sf-ira-label-1.1405399

Davidth88

I saw that , were Bill Oddie, Tim Brooke-Taylor and Graeme Garden representing the DUP on Question Time then ?



( for those who are too young.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goodies

Cody Pomeray

handlemaster wrote: »

The story outlined below from the Irish times, BBC Question time in Belfast last night had a floor plan with SF/ IRA ! written on it. I know Sinn Fein have tried to distance themselves from themselves... I mean the IRA but arent they one and the same. Where did SF come from ? If nothing else its funny to see the political correctness of on screen gives way to the reality behind.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/bbc-apologises-after-sinn-f%C3%A9in-minister-complains-over-sf-ira-label-1.1405399

The problem is any danger that it represents a political bias in an influential current affairs programme.

I mean, it also had "DUP/ Goodies" written on the card. So yes, it's inappropriate and worthy of a legitimate complaint.

Yamanoto

The NI studio audience chuckled when Dimbleby enquired as to whether Steven Nolan was "big over here too?"

LordSutch

Well I gues if Gerry Adams or McGuinness had been guests, then the floor plan would have been Bang on! but I think I am correct in saying that O'Dowd is one of the newer members who wasn't in the IRA. Either way, SF were the political wing of the IRA, so I don't know what O'Dowd is bleeting about. There seems to be a massive push in recent years to erase any trace of a connection between the PIRA and Sinn Fein, when in reality many of SF were actually in the PIRA.

Zebra3

handlemaster wrote: »

The story outlined below from the Irish times, BBC Question time in Belfast last night had a floor plan with SF/ IRA ! written on it. I know Sinn Fein have tried to distance themselves from themselves... I mean the IRA but arent they one and the same.

Do PIRA still exist?

handlemaster wrote: »

Where did SF come from ?

From Arthur Griffith.

Banjo String

Tv

LordSutch wrote: »

Well I gues if Gerry Adams or McGuinness had been guests, then the floor plan would have been Bang on! but I think I am correct in saying that O'Dowd is one of the newer members who wasn't in the IRA. Either way, SF were the political wing of the IRA, so I don't know what O'Dowd is bleeting about. There seems to be a massive push in recent years to erase any trace of a connection between the PIRA and Sinn Fein, when in reality many of SF were actually in the PIRA.

Yawn.

You're like a broken record.

Change the script for Christ's sake.

SebBerkovich

They're gonna find it hard to escape their past connections to the IRA.
Still, it's better to compared to a group that renounced violence than one that's still killing people.

LordSutch

SamHall wrote: »

Tv

Yawn.

You're like a broken record.

Change the script for Christ's sake.

Yawn away mate, I won't forget what the PIRA did.

Nuttzz

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

The problem is any danger that it represents a political bias in an influential current affairs programme.

I mean, it also had "DUP/ Goodies" written on the card. So yes, it's inappropriate and worthy of a legitimate complaint.

It also had watching ? 50, its a joke, a bad one, but a joke all the same

Banjo String

LordSutch wrote: »

Yawn away mate, I won't forget what the PIRA did.

Good for you.

What about the British army and the loyalist paramilitaries?

Do you remember them fondly?

Yamanoto

Zebra3 wrote: »

Do PIRA still exist?

They haven't gone away, you know...

LordSutch

SamHall wrote: »

Good for you.

What about the British army and the loyalist paramilitaries?

Do you remember them fondly?

The Army were put into an impossible situation, and in some respects they were trying to crack a nut with a sledgehammer (the nut being the IRA/INLA/UDA/UFV etc), the army were a blunt tool, but at least they kept the IRA & co at bay, and the terrorist violence to a minimum..

Sinn Fein are/were the political wing of the IRA.

alchemist33

I'd be the last to defend SF in any situation, but saying "Sinn Fein/IRA" is Unionist politician language, and it does betray bias on the part of somebody at the BBC, although maybe not the organisation itself.

I think David Dimbleby is colour blind. Did you see his tie? my eyes, my eyes !!!

Zebra3

LordSutch wrote: »

The Army were put into an impossible situation, and in some respects they were trying to crack a nut with a sledgehammer (the nut being the IRA/INLA/UDA/UFV etc), the army were a blunt tool, but at least they kept the IRA & co at bay, and the terrorist violence to a minimum..

Sinn Fein are/were the political wing of the IRA.

Are you aware that the British Army (when it wasn't busy gunning down pro-democracy demonstrators on the streets) was actually arming and giving intelligence to the UDA? :rolleyes:

The British Army murdered people and supported terrorism.

handlemaster

Zebra3 wrote: »

Do PIRA still exist?



they all went on back to work schemes in the republic. with FAS and the like. Some even set up their own enterprises with fuel supply and protection for businesses... so business as usual....

Karl Stein

'Caused the troubles' under the DUP for a little balance.

Cody Pomeray

LordSutch wrote: »

The Army were put into an impossible situation, and in some respects they were trying to crack a nut with a sledgehammer (the nut being the IRA/INLA/UDA/UFV etc), the army were a blunt tool, but at least they kept the IRA & co at bay, and the terrorist violence to a minimum..

Wow, I've never thought about it that way before. How original.


This post is up there with farting and professional darts in terms of mental acumen. That's probably an insult to farting.

The formula is simple: identify the goodies, identify the baddies, throw in a few bland metaphors á la "our boys" and lower the bait.

Nobody but a troll could have such a bland and predictable perspective on the troubles.

Sunnyisland

LordSutch wrote: »

Yawn away mate, I won't forget what the PIRA did.

Its a terrible pity that you don't remember what caused the Pira to form and exist in the first place and then maybe we could all move forward, But then again there is/was always a no surrender mentality in sections of the Unionist community.

Nodin

LordSutch wrote: »

The Army were put into an impossible situation, .......

The poor things. I feel sad on the inside now, for the poor misunderstood.

Nodin

Cathal Cloch wrote: »

'Caused the troubles' under the DUP for a little balance.

'NI Gay Marriage advocate' would have been the thing, I think.

My name is URL

SamHall wrote: »

Good for you.

What about the British army and the loyalist paramilitaries?

Do you remember them fondly?

Jaysis.. don't get him started.

Iwasfrozen

Zebra3 wrote: »

Are you aware that the British Army (when it wasn't busy gunning down pro-democracy demonstrators on the streets) was actually arming and giving intelligence to the UDA? :rolleyes:

The British Army murdered people and supported terrorism.

Jaysus you have some contacts to get this sort of information. Why are you wasting it on us? Quick. Run to the UN!

Nodin

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Jaysus you have some contacts to get this sort of information. Why are you wasting it on us? Quick. Run to the UN!

Bit late, seeing as collusion was establsihed many years ago.

blahfckingblah

Yamanoto wrote: »

They haven't gone away, you know...

em... yes they have

Yamanoto

blahfckingblah wrote: »

em... yes they have

Ah Jaysus...here ya go.

It was one of the soundbites of the post-Troubles era, the retort from Gerry Adams to a voice from the crowd telling him to bring back the IRA: "They haven't gone away, you know."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/apr/26/ira-tradition-army-martin-mcguinness

Zebra3

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Jaysus you have some contacts to get this sort of information. Why are you wasting it on us? Quick. Run to the UN!

:rolleyes:

That is all.

Son Of A Vidic

handlemaster wrote: »

Where did SF come from ?

So why then are you starting a thread, on a subject matter you obviously have no clue about? Maybe pick up a book on 20th century Irish history and you'll find your answer in there.

mikehammer67

made me giggle

blahfckingblah

Yamanoto wrote: »

Ah Jaysus...here ya go.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/apr/26/ira-tradition-army-martin-mcguinness

yes,,, used out of context...

i like the way you say something yet its here i go... goon

end of the road

LordSutch wrote: »

The Army were put into an impossible situation, and in some respects they were trying to crack a nut with a sledgehammer (the nut being the IRA/INLA/UDA/UFV etc), the army were a blunt tool, but at least they kept the IRA & co at bay, and the terrorist violence to a minimum..

yeah, they just wanted to commit the terrorism themselves, so it was in their interest to try to keep the IRA and co at bay, they failed

Yamanoto

blahfckingblah wrote: »

i like the way you say something yet its here i go... goon

Cogent

Are we cyber-squabbling yet?

blahfckingblah

Yamanoto wrote: »

Cogent

Are we cyber-squabbling yet?

questionmark?

Right let's get this straight -
The IRA killed people
The INLA killed people
The UDA killed people
The UVF killed people
The British army killed people.
Some others nutters killed people
We all started to get along
We gave them Jedward
They gave us TV shows Like TOWIE


Did I get that right?

1ZRed

Always snigger at how they pronounce it ur-an-us

K-9

alchemist33 wrote: »

I'd be the last to defend SF in any situation, but saying "Sinn Fein/IRA" is Unionist politician language, and it does betray bias on the part of somebody at the BBC, although maybe not the organisation itself.

It's very odd that they'd do that, most people have moved on, and SF/IRA is very rarely mentioned when we have mature political debate.

It's only used for cheap political point scoring, or to divert attention from a difficult question, Kenny/Gilmore etc. with the Northern Bank a good example.

Problem is it works, as this thread shows, put up a controversial comment and everybody gets distracted, "look squirrel", and we go off on a N.I. history debate, while the main point gets forgotten.

handlemaster

handlemaster wrote: »

Zebra3 wrote: »

Do PIRA still exist?



they all went on back to work schemes in the republic. with FAS and the like. Some even set up their own enterprises with fuel supply and protection for businesses... so business as usual....

Some went into property development, and built a lot of flats that have been condemned as fire traps and then claimed to be "British" when the Irish taxman came after them!

kowloon

questionmark? wrote: »

They gave us TV shows Like TOWIE

Good point, let the violence begin anew.