Do Spanish and Portuguese folk get on ?

dd972

Just curious, of course they do for the most part, but just wondering if anyone here has lived in either country or knows about the culture of either place, what sort of stereotypes do the Spanish and Portuguese have of each other, does one look down on the other or regard the other as being backward and a bit rustic ( a bit how Swedes and Danes can perceive the Norwegians for example )

fishy fishy

slow day?

Mr Benevolent

No, Portugal is backwards compared to Spain, they tend to blame everything on the Spanish, including the weather.

General General

Can anyone think of two different nations that are neighbors/neighbours that hold each other in high esteem?

Barna77

No. Portugal are responsible for CR and Mourinho, reason enough to vilify them

The Backwards Man

The rain in Spain falls mainly in Portugal.

Mr Benevolent

General General wrote: »

Can anyone think of two different nations that are neighbors/neighbours that hold each other in high esteem?

Jupiter and Mars get on very well. They even have kids in the form of an asteroid belt.

squod

dd972 wrote: »

...what sort of stereotypes do the Spanish and Portuguese have

Panafonic, Phony or JCV

Madam

Barna77 wrote: »

No. Portugal are responsible for CR and Mourinho, reason enough to vilify them

To be fair CR is from the beautiful Madeira:)

the keen edge

I say they get on just fine; they're both very attractive nationalities. 'Tis hard to stay angry towards beautiful people for any long length of time; and easy to forgive them.

The main reason ourselves and the auld Brit's have been at each other throats for so long is because were both ugly bastards. It's just to easy to hate and remain bitter towards ugly people.

If we all had face lifts and boob jobs the bitter animosity between our two Nations would just dissolve away.

Madam

the keen edge wrote: »

.The main reason ourselves and the auld Brit's have been at each other throats for so long is because were both ugly bastards. It's just to easy to hate and remain bitter towards ugly people.

Speak for yourself why don't you - I'm a mixture of Scots and Irish and I'm fine thank you;)

Omackeral

Jesus not another anti-Iberian Peninsula thread...

iDave

They get on fine, its Andorra they both hate

Larbre34

I can tell you one thing, don't leave Portuguese and Brazilians alone in a room together, theyll rip it and each other apart....

The Backwards Man

Larbre34 wrote: »

I can tell you one thing, don't leave Portuguese and Brazilians alone in a room together, theyll rip it and each other apart....

I once heard a girl from Braga say the same about the English and the Irish.

HalloweenJack

Spaniards are too busy hating the French to care about the Portuguese.

Dr Turk Turkelton

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Spaniards are too busy hating the French to care about the Portuguese.

In fairness everyone seems to hate the cheese eating surrender monkeys!

Ravelleman

Spanish people say that Portuguese women are incredibly hairy. The Portuguese say the same about Spanish women.

Just as a matter of curiosity, the Portuguese tend to speak English much better and with much less accent than Spanish people. Their language has a lot more of the sounds we use in English than Spanish does.

frank reynolds

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Spaniards are too busy hating the French to care about the Portuguese.

And rightly so. i hate the french and i dont care how that sounds. bunch of fools.

Ravelleman

Cuchulainn1. wrote: »

In fairness everyone seems to hate the cheese eating surrender monkeys!

They call them gabachos in Spain.

The Backwards Man

Omackeral wrote: »

Jesus not another anti-Iberian Peninsula thread...

No one's mentioned Gibraltar yet. Or Andorra either actually.

frank reynolds

frank reynolds wrote: »

And rightly so. i hate the french and i dont care how that sounds. bunch of fools.

There are only two things I can't stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures... and the Dutch.

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Spanish and Portuguse are exactly the same... When will people wake up and realise this?

Madam

Cuchulainn1. wrote: »

In fairness everyone seems to hate the cheese eating surrender monkeys!

Your English - right?

Either that or your about 10 years old!

francois

frank reynolds wrote: »

And rightly so. i hate the french and i dont care how that sounds. bunch of fools.

Bof

DellyBelly

Deleted User wrote: »

There are only two things I can't stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures... and the Dutch.

That line is from Michael Caine in Austin Powers. Love that line it's hilarious. On one point he's against racism but then is blatantly racist against the dutch.

The Backwards Man

DellyBelly wrote: »

That line is from Michael Caine in Austin Powers. Love that line it's hilarious. On one point he's against racism but then is blatantly racist against the dutch.

Really? I never picked up on that before. HA HA.

swimming in a sea

the keen edge wrote: »

I say they get on just fine; they're both very attractive nationalities. 'Tis hard to stay angry towards beautiful people for any long length of time; and easy to forgive them.

I've not been to Portugal but Spain does not have in general beautiful people, maybe you were mixing up all the beautiful foreigners that hang around Marbella with the Spanish people.

mike65

The Spanish tend to view the Portuguese as lazy, poor and ignorant.

gramar

Theres no real animosity really over and above the typical rivalry between two neighbouring countries. I live in Spain and I travel to Portugal a few times a year for work and I've never seen any obvious dislike. The Spanish think Portugal is a bit backward and that the women are hairy and the Portuguese think the Spanish have a little bit of a superiority complex but that's as much as I've seen.

I have friends from both countries and I can't recall anyone ever insulting the other. Take Mourinho and Ronaldo at Madrid...people mightn't like them but I've never heard any 'race' type insults. Spanish people have a much worse opinion of the English and abuse people from other regions of Spain much more than they do poeple from other countries.

YFlyer

General General wrote: »

Can anyone think of two different nations that are neighbors/neighbours that hold each other in high esteem?

Czechs and Slovaks perhaps

Tombo2001

General General wrote: »

Can anyone think of two different nations that are neighbors/neighbours that hold each other in high esteem?

Irish and the Scots seem to hold each other in reasonable esteem, bound as they are by a mutual wish to see Engerland lose in sporting events.

Omackeral

General General wrote: »

Can anyone think of two different nations that are neighbors/neighbours that hold each other in high esteem?

If you watch the Eurovision and have a decent grasp of geography you can predict who will give top points to who.

So in answer to your qusetion...yes, lots.

losthorizon

The Backwards Man wrote: »

The rain in Spain falls mainly in Portugal.

Actually Galicia, Navarra and the Basque Region as well as Winter and early Spring.

losthorizon

Montenegrans and Serbs really do hold each other in great esteem.

It was Montenegro that bombed the **** out of Dubrovnik not Serbia. They only became a Yugoslav republic because Tito rewarded them for their brave resistance during WW2. And, only became independent because it was virtually forced upon them because of economic considerations and then it was only won in the vote by the "other nationalities" vote and voters returning from abroad to vote.

Celly Smunt

The Spanish generally hate everybody who isn't from within a 5 mile radius of themselves.South Americans get a rougher time off the Spanish than anybody.And the English,they detest the English (unless they're making money off them)

Legs.Eleven

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Spaniards are too busy hating the French to care about the Portuguese.

The Spanish really, REEEEEAllY hate the French. I'm still trying to figure out who they actually like bar us. They love the auld stereotypes here.


The Spanish kind of ignore the Portuguese. They have no views on them, it seems. You never hear anything about Portugal here. Just asked my Spanish fella and he just confirmed that. Portugal isn't on Spain's radar, unfortunately. But the ones that have been there really love it.

They're quite different. The portuguese are much quieter and I suppose less stereotypically Latin than the Spanish and Italians, say. Much more low key, great English speakers (unlike the Spanish....hence why I've loadsa work) and very friendly and welcoming.

If I could do it all again, I would've moved to Portugal. Darn!

Ravelleman

Lots of Spanish people don't like South Americans but that's a different issue altogether. As I travelled South America I also found that a lot of people there - particularly in Uruguay, Argentina, Chile and Paraguay - would try to make it clear to me that they were of European, not Indian descent, as if it were a special club.

Barna77

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

The Spanish really, REEEEEAllY hate the French. I'm still trying to figure out who they actually like bar us. They love the auld stereotypes here.


The Spanish kind of ignore the Portuguese. They have no views on them, it seems. You never hear anything about Portugal here. Just asked my Spanish fella and he just confirmed that. Portugal isn't on Spain's radar, unfortunately. But the ones that have been there really love it.

Portugal is in the backyard, so yeah, they're sort of ignored :pac:

AS for the French, that's different. Fecking Napoleon invading the land ages ago, Or the French farmers used to burn Spanish trucks carrying fruit and veg over to European markets as soon as they crossed the border.

Ravelleman wrote: »

Lots of Spanish people don't like South Americans but that's a different issue altogether. As I travelled South America I also found that a lot of people there - particularly in Uruguay, Argentina, Chile and Paraguay - would try to make it clear to me that they were of European, not Indian descent, as if it were a special club.

Argentinians come across as really arrogant.... like the French

long range shooter

dd972 wrote: »

Just curious, of course they do for the most part, but just wondering if anyone here has lived in either country or knows about the culture of either place, what sort of stereotypes do the Spanish and Portuguese have of each other, does one look down on the other or regard the other as being backward and a bit rustic ( a bit how Swedes and Danes can perceive the Norwegians for example )

Wrong,how swedes can perceive Norwegians and Danes

keeponhurling

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Irish and the Scots seem to hold each other in reasonable esteem, bound as they are by a mutual wish to see Engerland lose in sporting events.

2 nations？

keeponhurling

Syria and Iran seem to get on alright.

China and North Korea for a long time, perhaps relations cooled a bit recently.

OCorcrainn

losthorizon wrote: »

Actually Galicia, Navarra and the Basque Region as well as Winter and early Spring.

Funny, I though that the Basque Region included Navarra?

garv123

According to one of the spanish guys I work with only one good thing came out of England and thats the Sex Pistols

They´re much friendlier since they realised I´m irish and not english.

Capt'n Midnight

Spanish ?

I'd be fairly sure that there a lot of Spanish people who make every effort to communicate with Portuguese tourists, but would switch back to Gallician or Catalan if they had to deal with a Castillian speaker.

Capt'n Midnight

The Backwards Man wrote: »

The rain in Spain falls mainly in Portugal.

Thanks mainly to their hydro electric dams Portugal got 70% of it's electricity from renewable sources in the first three months this year.

Gosub

A Spanish local official once tried to categorise me as British. I told her, no, I am Irish. She said that it was the same thing. I then told her that it was like me saying she was Portuguese. She was horrified and apologised profusely. This was before there were many Irish in this area of Spain. Now there are nearly as many Irish as Brits.

It's true that the local Spanish love themselves, to the exclusion of everyone else.

Legs.Eleven

Gosub wrote: »

A Spanish local official once tried to categorise me as British. I told her, no, I am Irish. She said that it was the same thing. I then told her that it was like me saying she was Portuguese. She was horrified and apologised profusely. This was before there were many Irish in this area of Spain. Now there are nearly as many Irish as Brits.

It's true that the local Spanish love themselves, to the exclusion of everyone else.

I have met a grand total of 3 (no exaggeration) Spaniards who know Ireland is not in Britain in my 3 and a half years here. One of them was a new student I met yesterday. He said, "I've been to Britain but never Ireland" and I almost wanted to kiss him (I just groped his knee instead).

IrishExpat

More or a less a repeat of previous posters on a few points.

Have been here a long time now, and more than aware of the general animosity towards the French, but have never heard a bad (or good) word about Portugal, not even on their radar.

I seem to gel with the Spanish better when I make the point that I'm Irish, not a Brit - and 90% of the time they will either have lived in Dublin for a few months, plan to or at least have friends who have done so.

Just don't make the honest mistake of calling galician a dialect of castellano Spanish - was lucky to escape that conversation unharmed.

Barna77

IrishExpat wrote: »

Have been here a long time now, and more than aware of the general animosity towards the French, but have never heard a bad (or good) word about Portugal, not even on their radar.


Just don't make the honest mistake of calling galician a dialect of castellano Spanish - was lucky to escape that conversation unharmed.

Ah but people from Vigo are Portuguese anyway

:pac:

JD DABA

The Germans really dont get on with the Dutch for some strange reason.
They don't even mind the British after all that war stuff....but the Dutch...they dislike apparently. t'is mad.