Aer Arann Announcement

joegriffinjnr

Aer Arann, operator of Aer Lingus Regional, will make a significant announcement on the company’s expansion plans this Wednesday in Dublin Airport at 9am.

The Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport, Leo Varadkar, will officiate at the announcement and will be joined by senior representatives from Aer Arann.

donvito99

Transatlantic routes with freed up 42s?

Peregrine

That's actually quite interesting Joe. Looking forward to it.

Leo is there eh? So it can't be just a normal future plan.

donvito99 wrote: »

Transatlantic routes with freed up 42s?

Bessarion

I think I shall hijack this thread and say that Aer Lingus should make a significant announcement the following week. (not 100% on date but expect it to early in the week) It will give clarity to the knock on effects of EI taking delivery of those B757's

donkey balls

From what I heard RE are going be doing routes to BHX/MAN in the next few weeks.

b757

donkey balls wrote: »

From what I heard RE are going be doing routes to BHX/MAN in the next few weeks.

BHX starts 1st June.
MAN starts 1st July.

Pretty sure that this will not be the announcement, as it was announced before.

LoonyLovegood

So EI's MAN/BHX will now be RE?

Jamie2k9

CTYIgirl wrote: »

So EI's MAN/BHX will now be RE?

No

BHX will be 3 daily Aer Lingus and 3 daily Aer Arann.
MAN will be 3 daily Aer Lingus and 2 daily Aer Arann.

LoonyLovegood

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

No

BHX will be 3 daily Aer Lingus and 3 daily Aer Arann.
MAN will be 3 daily Aer Lingus and 2 daily Aer Arann.

That makes a lot more sense than what I was thinking! I've done the MAN route before and the A320 was a good 80% full in winter!

donkey balls

Just saw leo the mouth with a few heads from stobart walking around EI FAS along with a camera crew and 4 RE CC no doubt it will be on tv at some stage.

L1011

CTYIgirl wrote: »

That makes a lot more sense than what I was thinking! I've done the MAN route before and the A320 was a good 80% full in winter!

MAN is jammed every time United or Liverpool are playing at home, it'd be commercial suicide to move to a fully ATR operation. This way keeps capacity up as well as adding frequency and opening up more trasnatlantic connections - while MAN does have its own, Aer Lingus are often cheaper and they do get people connecting.

Tenger

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2013/0522/451775-aer-arann-jobs/

Aer Arann - which operates the Aer Lingus Regional flights - has said it will create 50 jobs over the next 12 months and wants to double its passenger numbers to two million a year over the next five years.
A new strategy at the airline aims to make it one of the top European regional airlines.
The new jobs are for cabin crew, engineering and support roles and will bring staff numbers to 370.
The airline, following a recent restructuring, is owned by UK logistics group Stobart and Invesco Asset Management, which each control a 45% stake and London-based Cenkos Securities which owns about 10%.



A bit short on details, however this was posted on RTE.ie at 0805. Maybe the video segment will have more details......(I bet Leo isn't wearing a Hi-Viz......)

hardCopy

donkey balls wrote: »

Just saw leo the mouth with a few heads from stobart walking around EI FAS along with a camera crew and 4 RE CC no doubt it will be on tv at some stage.

FAS?

CC?

Tenger

hardCopy wrote: »

FAS?

CC?

You missed RE and TV?



ON the off chance that you are not being sarcastic....
EI-FAS is the latest Aer Arann (RE) aircraft.
CC is Cabin Crew

cson

You'd have to imagine RE will only get stronger in the long term. Its rather unique in Europe the model they have going; pretty prevalent in the US with Delta Connection/United Express/American Connection etc but strangely it hasn't really caught on in Europe the outsourcing of regional services to bring pax to the hub of the 'parent' so to speak. I think Iberia, Alitalia and TAP have them but as subsidiaries rather than the outsourcing arrangement EI have with RE.

I'm amazed Air France are trying to divest Cityjet, they've a ready made "AF Connection" if they managed it properly there. Seem content to run it as a virtual stand alone entity and watch the losses rack up. French eh? :pac:

Sterling Archer

It's good news whatever way you look at it but the Journal headline is slightly amusing "Aer Arann buys €144 million worth of aircraft carriers and announces 50 new jobs"

A320

the journal is glorified bloggers

Razor44

any ideas where the jobs will be up? nothing listed on the RE site yet....but prob way to soon!

hardCopy

Tenger wrote: »

You missed RE and TV?



ON the off chance that you are not being sarcastic....
EI-FAS is the latest Aer Arann (RE) aircraft.
CC is Cabin Crew

I'm not being sarcastic, I thought maybe FAS was an Aer Lingus building or something. I'm not a spotter and I don't work in the industry, sometimes the acronyms can be a bit much for anyone with only a passing interest in aviation.

paulmcgrath

Razor44 wrote: »

any ideas where the jobs will be up? nothing listed on the RE site yet....but prob way to soon!

Probably

Stimpyone

Wonder what the chances are of EI returning to Liverpool under the regional brand?.

Razor44

paulmcgrath wrote: »

Probably

true! just mad to get working again

cson

Stimpyone wrote: »

Wonder what the chances are of EI returning to Liverpool under the regional brand?.

You'd only do it as a feeder to Long Haul Ops and given the proximity of Manchester I wouldn't think the market would be there for it.

A319er

Yes agreed although it was a shame EI were ordered to leave the route to assist a destitute FR develop , but how times change
A sound decision at the time as two Irish airlines meant customers
Had a choice cannot see EIR wanting a fare war on this route
With FR

cruais

According to the news on he radio they are looking for CC and engineers

Tenger

hardCopy wrote: »

I'm not being sarcastic, I thought maybe FAS was an Aer Lingus building or something. I'm not a spotter and I don't work in the industry, sometimes the acronyms can be a bit much for anyone with only a passing interest in aviation.

Ah right....there was a whole discussion recently about the usage of acronyms in aviation on on this forum.


EIR is Aer Lingus Regional by the way.

lufties

cruais wrote: »

According to the news on he radio they are looking for CC and engineers

Any idea where the engineer positions will be mainly?

flazio

Stimpyone wrote: »

Wonder what the chances are of EI returning to Liverpool under the regional brand?.

Last time I was in Liverpool, Ryanair and Easyjet looked like the only 2 airlines running from there.

Tenger

flazio wrote: »

Last time I was in Liverpool, Ryanair and Easyjet looked like the only 2 airlines running from there.

Hence why he asked would EI return to LPL under the Regional operation.

cruais

lufties wrote: »

Any idea where the engineer positions will be mainly?

Didn't make much sense, but I'm nearly sure they said based in city centre office

lufties

cruais wrote: »

Didn't make much sense, but I'm nearly sure they said based in city centre office

Huh? thats odd, I'm an (maintenance) engineer and we are normally based ar an t-aerphort, so I'm guessing ORK, DUB or GAL.

L1011

They've no operations at GWY anymore as far as I know.

lufties

MYOB wrote: »

They've no operations at GWY anymore as far as I know.

yeah same as WAT, oh well if its not good for a profit, there's no point I guess, sad really.

cruais

lufties wrote: »

Huh? thats odd, I'm an (maintenance) engineer and we are normally based ar an t-aerphort, so I'm guessing ORK, DUB or GAL.

I know I thought it sounded super strange! I more than likely misheard as it was rush hour and I had a baby screaming in the car!

lufties

it will be interesting to see where the jobs will be, id say cork would be a great spot to be based, decent, fairly secure job in a nice part of the country.

questionmark?

Wonder will they actually focus on 'regional' flights again like Waterford to London? Also the amount of flights to Birmingham and Manchester per day does appear like overkill but somebody with a better knowledge of the industry might know more. Still good news hopefully it goes well.

lufties

questionmark? wrote: »

Wonder will they actually focus on 'regional' flights again like Waterford to London? Also the amount of flights to Birmingham and Manchester per day does appear like overkill but somebody with a better knowledge of the industry might know more. Still good news hopefully it goes well.

would love to see waterford flights open up again but since aer arann have left the place already i cant see them going back..cant imagine they would be allowed come and go as they please either as an operator.

L1011

I don't think WAT are in a position to turn down an airline offering flights to London...

lufties

So, anymore on the jobs?

A320

i see the new EI-FAS Showing up on FR24 Now,new machines must have mode s/ads-b

L1011

The -600 series ATRs have ADS-B. Its going to be compulsory in a number of countries within the next decade so no point leaving it out anymore.

Airborne Soldier

lufties wrote: »

So, anymore on the jobs?

They advertised for a Health & Safety Officer and a Flight Operations Administrator last weekend. The FAO job was taken down on Tuesday and the H&SO job on Wednesday I think.

Did anyone get a chance to apply? If so, have you heard anything back yet?

lufties

Airborne Soldier wrote: »

They advertised for a Health & Safety Officer and a Flight Operations Administrator last weekend. The FAO job was taken down on Tuesday and the H&SO job on Wednesday I think.

Did anyone get a chance to apply? If so, have you heard anything back yet?

Good to see jobs being created, although I was thinking along the lines of Engineers and Pilots.

Fully Established

lufties wrote: »

Good to see jobs being created, although I was thinking along the lines of Engineers and Pilots.

I have heard Aer Arann recently recruited a few French first officers ,therefore reducing the chances for any Irish pilots , I know this wouldn't happen the other way around . Having been monitoring their website for pilot jobs to be advertised but not seen one, even though they do have new FO's coming on line.
I have also been told they recruit on the nod and a wink scheme and also they may invite you to an interview but the job is already gone to a " friend". Surely this is not an acceptable level of recruiting in a safety critical environment where by you get the job based on who you know and not your ability.

kona

Fully Established wrote: »

I have also been told they recruit on the nod and a wink scheme and also they may invite you to an interview but the job is already gone to a " friend". Surely this is not an acceptable level of recruiting in a safety critical environment where by you get the job based on who you know and not your ability.

SOP for Irish airlines according to boards.ie

You'd swear they were just hiring their mates who don't have a clue, neglecting the fact they may actually have decades of experience and are proven.

Fully Established

kona wrote: »

SOP for Irish airlines according to boards.ie

You'd swear they were just hiring their mates who don't have a clue, neglecting the fact they may actually have decades of experience and are proven.

Not exactly most first officers in Aer Arann would be low hour pilots at the start of their career there. I think you are way off the mark suggesting decades of experience even some of their Captains wouldn't have a single decade of flight experience.

kona

Fully Established wrote: »

Not exactly most first officers in Aer Arann would be low hour pilots at the start of their career there. I think you are way off the mark suggesting decades of experience even some of their Captains wouldn't have a single decade of flight experience.

I'm not talking exclusively about flight crew. I'm also half taking the pish about the amount if ****e posted about nepotism here.

Fully Established

kona wrote: »

I'm not talking exclusively about flight crew. I'm also half taking the pish about the amount if ****e posted about nepotism here.

I hear what your saying but do you think it right that Aer Arann try to put out a clean image, when behind the scenes it is rotten to the core with nepotism in all areas ? Also surely with all the grants they have been given from Irish tax payers money you would think they might repay some of it by employing Irish pilots. Secondly is it a deliberate move by the company to employ foreign pilots to weaken the Union ?

Razor44

I was wondering why I was hearing alot of french voices coming from aer arran on atclive

Growler!!!

Fully Established wrote: »

I hear what your saying but do you think it right that Aer Arann try to put out a clean image, when behind the scenes it is rotten to the core with nepotism in all areas ? Also surely with all the grants they have been given from Irish tax payers money you would think they might repay some of it by employing Irish pilots. Secondly is it a deliberate move by the company to employ foreign pilots to weaken the Union ?

Some examples of rotten neoptism please?

By tax payers money do you mean the PSO routes? RE bid for them. As did Ryanair, Cityjet and Loganair.

"Foreign" pilots can join an irish union too.

Fully Established

Growler!!! wrote: »

Some examples of rotten neoptism please?

By tax payers money do you mean the PSO routes? RE bid for them. As did Ryanair, Cityjet and Loganair.

"Foreign" pilots can join an irish union too.

Yes obviously the PSO routes , LoganAir won the Donegal route ,CityJet and Ryanair with higher operating costs with Jets are easier to outbid.
Foreign pilots highly likely are just using Arann as a stepping stone to further their own career and are not to bothered with Unions .
And for Nepotism you have no chance of any job in Arann if your not recommended by someone in the know in the company .