WWE Extreme Rules 2013 - Post Show Discussion Thread

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The Miz vs Cody Rhodes

Miz applies a waistlock but Cody fights out and hits the ropes, but Miz backdrops him and tries to follow it with a rollup. Cody kicks out so Miz goes for a backslide, then Cody gets up and punches him before Miz comes back with a clothesline. Miz takes him down with a snapmare but Cody avoids a kick to the head, then he hangs Miz up in the ropes and kicks him in the stomach. Cody keeps it going with a suplex, then he goes for a quick pin attempt before stomping on Miz’s ribs. Cody sends him into the ropes and knees him, then he applies a seated abdominal stretch but Miz is able to make it to his feet.

Miz rolls him up for a near fall, but Cody kicks out and clotheslines him for a near fall of his own. Cody goes back to the seated abdominal stretch but Miz once again breaks it, so Cody tries to suplex him but Miz floats over and kicks him. Miz sends him into the corner and goes for a clothesline, but Cody backdrops him onto the apron and Miz tries to jump back in and roll him up. Cody goes for Cross Rhodes but Miz blocks it and goes for the Figure Four, but Cody kicks him away and heads up top. Cody jumps but Miz blocks a dropkick and grabs his legs, then he follows it with the Figure Four and gets Cody to tap for the win.

Winner – The Miz

Chris Jericho vs Fandango (w/ Summer Rae)

Jericho backs Fandango into the corner and the ref breaks it up, then they tie up again before they trade a few chops. Fandango takes Jericho down with a shoulder block, then Jericho comes back with a kick before he chases him around the ring and elbows him. Jericho kicks him and Summer Rae checks on Fandango, but she soon gets out of the way as Jericho hits a flying crossbody and plays to the crowd. He rolls Fandango in and gets kicked in the head, then Fandango kicks him in the head and charges him in the corner. Jericho kicks him a few times and throws him outside, then he kicks Fandango and whips him in the corner after he gets back in the ring.


Fandango kicks him in the face and gets a near fall, then he ties him in the ropes and punches him in the back of the head.Fandango hits him in the back of the head again and applies a headlock, but Jericho breaks it and attempts a rollup, and Fandango ducks and counters with a legdrop. Fandango puts him back in a headlock but Jericho breaks it with a side suplex, then he drops him with a shoulder tackle and a running bulldog. Jericho goes for Walls of Jericho but Fandango kicks him in the corner, then Jericho leaps up top and goes for a crossbody.

Fandango rolls through and almost gets a rollup, then he gets angry and punches Jericho in the head before heading up top and setting a diving legdrop. Jericho rolls away and connects with a Lionsault for two, then he kicks Fandango in the corner before chopping him a few times. Fandango tries to roll him up after an Irish whip, but Jericho rolls through and applies the Walls of Jericho, only to have Fandango crawl to the ropes. Jericho charges him in the corner but Fandango kicks him in the back of the head, then he goes back to the top turnbuckle but Jericho catches him with a mid air Codebreaker for the win.

Winner - Chris Jericho

Josh Mathews is with Sheamus backstage, and he asks Sheamus how he is going to drag Mark Henry around the ring and tag all four corners. Sheamus says it's interesting because the match does favor Henry, and they saw Henry set an impressive record by dragging two trucks. He says trucks don't hit back, but he does, and Henry is going to find out what happens when the Celtic Warrior goes 'extreme.'


United States Champion
Dean Ambrose vs Kofi Kingston (c)

Ambrose applies a waistlock but Kofi counters with an armdrag, then Ambrose hits the ropes but Kofi leapfrogs him a few times and goes for Trouble in Paradise. Ambrose holds the ropes but Kofi monkey flips him into the corner, then Ambrose catches him with a right hand and a clothesline. Kofi kicks out of a pin attempt so Ambrose hits him in the head, then he rubs his face across the top rope and throws Kofi down on the mat. Ambrose taunts Kofi before they slug it out, then Kofi hits the ropes but Ambrose blocks an attack and puts him in a Chicken Winged Crossface. Kofi counters and drops him with a few forearm shots, then he connects with the Boom Drop and calls for Trouble In Paradise.

Ambrose ducks and backs up but Kofi comes back with S.O.S. for two, then he goes up top but Ambrose meets him and tries to set up a superplex. Kofi tries to fight him off but Ambrose hits a double underhook superplex for two, then Ambrose throws him in the corner but Kofi kicks him in the head and follows with a flying crossbody. Kofi throws him on the apron and Ambrose rams him with his shoulder, but Kofi comes right back with a surprise Trouble In Paradise that knocks Ambrose on the floor. Kofi rolls him back in and goes for a cover, but Ambrose kicks out at two and tries to steal it with a schoolboy. Kofi goes for Trouble In Paradise again but Ambrose ducks, then he drops Kofi with a headlock driver and makes the cover to win.

Winner and NEW United States Champion - Dean Ambrose

Strap Match
Mark Henry vs Sheamus

Sheamus ties Henry's feet in the strap and pulls him on the mat, then Henry gets up and whips him into the ropes but Sheamus kicks him legs out and stomps him. Sheamus touches a turnbuckle but Henry knocks him down, then he hogties Sheamus in the strap and tries to drag him around the ring. Henry gets to two corners before Sheamus crawls under the ropes, then he punches Henry a few times and frees his legs up. Henry picks him up and clotheslines him to the floor, then he pulls Sheamus back up to the apron but Sheamus snaps his head on the ropes and walks around the apron. Sheamus touches three corners before Henry throws him on the floor, then he pulls him back in the ring and whips him with the strap. Henry picks him up on his shoulder and goes to touch all the turnbuckles, but Sheamus touches three of them as well and Henry catches on.


Henry throws him on the mat but Sheamus pulls the strap between Henry's legs, then he hits a shoulder tackle before stomping him a few times. Sheamus winds up and whips him with the strap, then he touches three turnbuckles before Henry hits a spinebuster. Sheamus rolls outside and punches Henry, then he ties Henry around the ringpost and repeatedly kicks him in the back. Sheamus pulls Henry into the ringpost and hits his shoulder, then he rolls Henry back in and touches three corners. Henry gets up and blocks the final corner, and Sheamus tries to dive at it but Henry catches him and sets up a World's Strongest Slam. Henry throws him up but Sheamus floats over, then he Brogue Kicks Henry and touches the final corner to win.

Winner - Sheamus

AJ is shown talking to Dolph on the phone, then Kaitlyn walks up and says she talked to Vickie Guerrero and heard AJ doesn't want her title shot. Kaitlyn says she is scared of losing, but AJ says she is grieving Dolph's injury and Kaitlyn mocks her and says she is crazy. Kaitlyn calls her Looney Tunes and AJ gets pissed, then she mocks Kaitlyn's secret admirer and says "he" is embarrassed to be seen in public with her. Kaitlyn makes her of her mental state again, then AJ dares her to say something again so Kaitlyn does a Porky Pig impression and says 't-t-t-that's all, folks.' She walks away as AJ says it's appropriate she's quoting a pig, then Kaitlyn turns and tackles her and they fight on the floor as referees try to break it up.

I Quit Match - (Winner Becomes #1 Contender for World Heavyweight Championship)
Jack Swagger (w/ Zeb Colter) vs Alberto Del Rio (w/ Ricardo Rodriguez)

Alberto goes right after Swagger and tries to hit him with a kendo stick, but Swagger avoids it and drops him with a belly-to-belly suplex. Swagger pulls the padding on the barricade and chokes Alberto with the kendo stick, then he says he won't quit and sends Swagger into the steps. Alberto hits him a few times and stomps on his arm, then Alberto rolls him inside but Swagger hits him a few times with the kendo stick. Swagger hits him a few more times before going outside, then he stretches Alberto around the ringpost and tries to get him to submit. Swagger goes back to the kendo stick and hits him in the legs, then he hits Alberto in the face before tying him in the ropes and repeatedly hitting him in the chest with the kendo stick.

The ref asks Alberto if he wants to quit but Alberto screams 'NO', then Swagger goes to swing at him but Alberto traps him in the Cross Armbreaker and tries to earn a submission. Swagger says he won't quit and throws him outisde, then he gets a chair but Alberto hits an enziguiri and kicks it into his face. Swagger goes for a running big boot but Alberto ducks and hits a tilt-a-whirl backbreaker, then he connects with a superkick and several kendo stick shots to the kidneys. Swagger once again says he won't quit so Alberto hits a Backstabber, then he calls for the Cross Armbreaker but Swagger blocks it and sends him to the mat after a spinning powerslam. Swagger follows with a Swagger Bomb and a gutwrench powerbomb, but Alberto won't quit so Swagger pulls him up and hits up another gutwrench powerbomb.

Alberto once again says he won't quit and surprises Swagger with a Cross Armbreaker, but Swagger reverses into the Patriot Lock and tries to get him to quit. Swagger grapevines the hold so Alberto can't move, then Ricardo threatens to throw the towel and Alberto pleads with him not to do it. Ricardo holds it but Zeb walks over to him while the ref checks on Alberto, and Zeb throws the towel in and acts like Ricardo did it. The ref sees this and awards the match to Swagger, but a second ref comes out and says Ricardo didn't do that. The referee asks for a replay and tells Swagger not to go anywhere, then he confirms the replay and says the match will restart if Alberto can continue. The ref asks if he can continue so Alberto says yes, then Swagger goes after him in the corner but Alberto puts him in the Cross Armbreaker. Swagger tries to shift his weight and break the hold, but Alberto keeps his grip locked and Swagger finally says he quits.

Winner - Alberto Del Rio

Ryback joins Josh Mathews for a backstage interview, and Ryback says the difference between him and John Cena is that Cena is a liar and he tells the truth. Ryback says Cena can talk about never giving up, but he won't get back up tonight because he won't let him. Ryback says he should have been WWE Champion six months ago but Cena got in the way, and that all changes tonight because Ryback rules.


Tornado Tag Match (WWE Tag Team Championship)
The Shield vs Team Hell No (c)

The Shield knocks Bryan down and goes after Kane, then they send him into the ropes but Bryan dropkicks them and puts Rollins in a surfboard stretch. Kane dropkicks Rollins and gets a two count, then Reigns hits him in the corner and Rollins fights with Bryan in the opposite corner. Reigns whips Rollins into Bryan, then they prevent Kane from trying to make a cover before dropping Kane with a double team suplex. They formulate a plan and Rollins goes after Bryan, then he lifts him up and Reigns tries to powerbomb him from the top turnbuckle. Bryan counters with a hurricanrana, then Kane grabs both of them by the throat and throws them both out to the floor.

Bryan hits a suicide dive that knocks them both down, then they roll The Shield in the ring and punch them both in the corner. Bryan powerslams Rollins and they both head up top, and Kane hits a clothesline before Bryan hits a diving headbutt for two. Bryan punches Reigns a few times and goes for a sunset flip, but Reigns blocks it so Bryan rolls over and puts him in the NO Lock. Kane keeps Rollins out of the ring while Bryan has the hold locked in, then Rollins tries to jump in from the turnbuckles and Kane chokeslams him. Reigns gets up and spears before trying to revive Rollins, then he goes after Bryan and kicks him a few times in the corner.

Reigns screams at Bryan before Kane hits him from behind, then Kane tries to lift him but Reigns throws him into Bryan and tries to attack Kane in the corner. Kane counters with a chokeslam attempt before Rollins breaks it up, then Bryan separates them and kicks Reigns several times in the chest. Reigns ducks a final kick so Bryan goes for the NO Lock, but Reigns counters and lifts Bryan into a fireman's carry position, then Rollins hits a top rope thrust kick for the win.

Winners and NEW Tag Team Champions - The Shield (Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns)


Extreme Rules Match
Big Show vs Randy Orton

Orton goes after Big Show but Show sends Orton outside, then Show takes a kendo stick from Orton and snaps it in half, before he shoves Orton back and punches him near the barricade. Orton gets away and finds a new kendo stick, and he hits Show a few times with it before Show grabs it and snaps it in half. Orton tries to find another weapon near the broadcast table, but Show hits him from behind before chopping him in the chest. Show picks him up and tries to throw him into the ringpost, but Orton floats over and throws Show headfirst into the post. Orton gets a ladder and tries to set it up, but Show kicks it into his face and knocks him down.

Show rolls him in and throws him shoulder first into the ringpost, then he chokes him with his boot before attacking Orton's left shoulder with several punches and an armbar submission. Orton makes it to his feet and punches Show a few times, then Show whips him in the corner and splashes him before setting up for a spear. Orton dropkicks his knees and knocks him down, then Orton hits another dropkick before splashing him in the corner and hitting a few mounted punches. Show cuts him off and slams him on the mat for a near fall, then he gets a ladder and a chair and brings them both into the ring. Show props the ladder on two open chairs, then he headbutts Orton and hits a sidewalk slam before he puts Orton on the ladder.

Show climbs up top and sets up a slingshot bomb, but Orton rolls off and gets a near fall after Show goes ribs first into the ladder. Orton connects with a hanging DDT and a RKO for two, but Show kicks out and rolls outside so Orton gets a chair and hits Show in the back with it. Show tries to get away but Orton hits him several times in the back and ribs, then Orton winds up for another chair shot but Show turns and hits him with a quick spear. Both men are slow to get up, but when they do Orton kicks Show in the head and RKO's him on a chair. Show crawls away so he can be pinned, then Orton smirks and backs up before punting Show in the head and making the cover.

Winner - Randy Orton


Last Man Standing (WWE Championship)
Ryback vs John Cena (c)

Cena sends Ryback into the ropes and Ryback drops him with a shoulder block, then Cena regroups and tries to take Ryback down. Ryback hits the ropes but this time Cena hits a shoulder tackle, then Ryback pops up and drops him with a quick clothesline before the ref starts a count. Ryback rams his shoulder into Cena's ribs, then he whips him across the ring but Cena goes up top and tries to hit a flying crossbody. Ryback catches him and powerslams him, but Cena makes it back up after a six count so Ryback goes after him and punches him in the head. The ref starts another count but Cena gets up at six, then Ryback gorilla press slams him and the ref once again starts counting Cena down. Ryback doesn't waste time and powerbombs Cena in the corner, and the ref checks on Cena as Ryback waits for him to get back up.

Cena tries to surprise him with an Attitude Adjustment but Ryback slams him on the mat, then Ryback grabs a table and wedges it in the corner. Cena hits a shoulder tackle and sets up a second, but Ryback catches him and throws Cena into the table, and the ref counts to eight before Cena gets up. Ryback tries to tackle him but Cena moves away, and Ryback hits the turnbuckles before Cena hits a side slam and Five Knuckle Shuffle. Cena goes for an Attitude Adjustment but Ryback counters and throws him into the ropes, then he hits a shoulder tackle and the ref once again counts. Ryback picks Cena up at seven and tries to powerbomb him, but Cena counters with his own powerbomb and watches the ref make a count on Ryback. He starts to move so Cena puts Ryback in a chokehold, but Ryback deadlifts him and slams Cena on the mat before backing into the corner.

Ryback drops Cena with a Meathook and watches the ref count, then Cena uses the ropes to pull himself up and he suprises Ryback by putting him in the STF. Ryback starts to fade and Cena releases the hold, then he goes outside for a table while Ryback lays motionless on the mat. Cena slides the table in the ring but Ryback knocks him down, then he sets up for Shell Shocked through the table but Cena counters with an Attitude Adjustment through it. Both men are slow to get up but they get up at nine, so Cena goes up top and Ryback punches him on the turnbuckles. Ryback lifts him and hits Shell Shocked, then he watches Cena get counted down but Cena somehow makes it back up at the count of nine.

Ryback pulls Cena outside and wraps his leg around the ringpost, then he tries to hit Cena's injured leg but Cena kicks him away and tackles Ryback through the barricade Both men eventually get up and fight into the crowd, then Ryback hits Cena a few times and throws him into the outer barricade. Ryback rips part of the hockey boards off it's hinges and blasts Cena in the head with it, then he paces as the ref makes a count. Cena makes it up at nine and he puts Ryback in a sleeperhold, then Ryback tries to free himself and walks around but Cena doesn't let go. Ryback falls down and Cena releases the hold, then Ryback gets up at nine and Cena rolls him on a table and climbs into the crowd.

Cena splashes Ryback through the table, then he gets up at five and looks for another weapon as Ryback struggles to make it to his feet. Cena grabs a fire extinguisher and sprays it in his face, then he waits for Ryback to get up and sprays it again until he smashes the canister into Ryback's head. Ryback makes it to his feet so Cena winds up again, then he goes for an Attitude Adjustment on the edge of the stage but Ryback counters and tackles him through the video board on the stage. Referees attend to both of them and put Cena on a backboard and stretcher, then they wheel him out of the arena as we continue to see a replay of the final moments of the match.

Result - No Contest

Steel Cage Match
Triple H vs Brock Lesnar (w/ Paul Heyman)

HHH goes after Brock and throws him into the cage, then he whips him back into it before dropping him with a spinebuster. HHH sets up a Pedigree but Brock counters, then he smiles and repeatedly knees HHH in the face before slamming his head into the cage. Brock whips him across the ring and sends him into the opposite wall, then he taunts the crowd a bit before throwing HHH back into another part of the cage. Brock picks him up on his shoulder and tries to throw him facefirst, but HHH floats over and shoves Brock into the cage wall. HHH readies in the corner and runs at him, but Brock drops him with a belly-to-belly release suplex and smiles as he gets back up. Brock throws HHH facefirst into the cage, then he stomps him a few times before launching HHH backwards into the cage and trying to kick him.


HHH rolls away and Brock hits the cage with his knee, then he acknowledges the injury but HHH picks him up and slams him down on the knee. Brock complains to Heyman about his knee before struggling to get up, then HHH continues to target Brock's knee before setting up a Pedigree. Brock counters with a Kimura so HHH punches him with his free hand, then Brock releases it and drops HHH with a clothesline. Heyman tells the ref to open the door as Brock crawls towards him, then he makes his way towards the door but HHH chopblocks his knee to stop him. HHH tries climbing out of the door but Heyman slams it in his face, then Brock hits a F-5 but HHH narrowly kicks out at two. Brock tells Heyman to get him a chair, then Heyman throws the ref out of the way and hands it to Brock before locking the cage door.

Brock hits HHH a few times with it and tries to shake off his injury, then Heyman tells him to end the match with a F-5 so Brock turns towards HHH and lifts him. His knee gives out and Brock falls to the ground, then HHH gets the chair and repeatedly hits Brock in the back of the leg with it. Heyman begs HHH to stop but he continues the attack, then Brock tries to beg him off but HHH drops an elbow on his knee and sends him to the corner. Brock catches him offguard with the Kimura but HHH breaks it and goes back to the knee, then he applies a Figure Four in the middle of the ring. Brock fights through the pain and punches HHH a few times, then HHH punches Brock's knee and pulls back so Lesnar rolls and is able to reach the ropes. Brock rolls and reverses the hold, so HHH finally lets go and Brock looks at HHH before attempting to climb out of the cage.

Heyman encourages him as he nears the top, but HHH hits his knee with the chair and slams his head into the cage before smiling and climbing the wall. HHH pulls out a sledgehammer, hidden on the top of the cage, but Brock hits him from behind and picks up the weapon. HHH avoids the sledgehammer shot and knocks Brock down, then he applies a Sharpshooter as Heyman runs around and climbs in the cage. HHH grabs Heyman and hits a Pedigree, then he turns and Pedigrees Brock but Brock narrowly kicks out after a two count. HHH picks the sledgehammer back up but Heyman low blows him, then Brock pulls himself up on the ropes and hits HHH in the face with the sledgehammer. Brock psyches himself up and pulls HHH to his feet, then he lifts him on his shoulders and hits a F-5 for the pinfall victory.

Winner - Brock Lesnar

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7

Overall, thought it was a good show but too many little annoyances to make it great.

The matches were all good, and in nearly them all, the right person won.

I hope Ryback addresses the fact he pretty much won the match but for some reason, the ref wouldn't count Cena down. I also really, REALLY will get angry if Cena laughs off the ending and is dancing round tonight.

Brock vs HHH was grand, though I think the show should have ended when Brock was celebrating at the top of the ramp. I really disliked the visual of Hunter walking away at the end of the show. That's an ending for a feud that's not really over, in a "Brock still hasn't kept him down" way. That should be the feud over, and as such, I feel Brock should have won, and HHH stayed lying on the mat as the show went off air.

Kaitlyn came across as the heel in the backstage segment with AJ. She insults AJ, calls her names and when AJ responds, she gets attacked from behind

Thrilled The Shield won titles. Should freshen them up a bit. Wonder what happens Bryan now though.

6/10

A show that will really be defined, imo, by how they handle Raw tonight...

gnfnrhead

Unlike most, I didnt really care who won the main event as I have no interest since the matches have sucked thus far. However, I was a little annoyed at the lengths to which Triple H went in order to allow himself be beaten. It took way too much and made Lesnar look weak, especially when he needed the help of Heyman and a sledgehammer to the head.

Cena vs Ryback showed how to book an unstoppable monster. I'm not a fan of Ryback but he came out looking great. Didnt matter what Cena did, he just kept getting back up.

The ending of Swagger vs Del Rio was painfully obvious. Decent enough match otherwise. Sheamus vs Henry suffered from an awful stipulation. Strap matches are almost never good. Shield matches were good, but they are capable of much better, especially when the likes of Daniel Bryan is on the other side of the ring. Fandango sucks. No two ways about it. Jericho deserves better. Orton vs Big Show was as expected, nothing to write home about but not awful. The AJ and Kaitlyn segment was good.

Extreme Rules is usually a great event, but it was lacking something this year. None of the matches were great, and a lot were just sorta there. Wonder if they were counting on the ladder match being the show stealer?

MitchKoobski

8

Exceeded expectations, better than Wrestlemania 29 as a whole.

Henry vs Sheamus was the only one that felt a bit boring.

Orton/Show was ridiculously good. I got excited when I thought we might see the punt again. It actually made me interested in Orton again.

Ridley

gnfnrhead wrote: »

It took way too much and made Lesnar look weak, especially when he needed the help of Heyman and a sledgehammer to the head.

Well Triple H was helped by HBK at WM and he did bring the sledgehammer into the match.

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Good card let down by dodgy, illogical finishes for the main event scene but surpassed WrestleMania in my eyes (which, to be fair, wasn't that difficult to do).

Dancor

Awesome

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7

I've been meaning to say, I'm surprised (pleasantly, mind) that Ambrose was the one chosen to get the singles title. I would have thought Reigns, as the monster and the guy who tends to be responsible for their six man tag wins, and who has the physique and style Vince usually loves, would have gotten that "honor". I also think Ambrose and Rollins would have suited each other more in terms of tag team style and looks.

But letting Ambrose be the individual champion in the group shows WWE obviously think he's got potential. So happy for him. Now I just hope he doesn't become another Champion Jobber...

Meanwhile, the most interesting line, imo, of the night came from Titus during the post-show preview. He alluded to the fact that as champions, The Shield will have the entire roster after THEM now. That's exactly what the group needs, storywise. Having the targets be on their backs could be a welcome change...

7

I had to laugh at HHH trying to get the standing ovation again (like Summerslam) and when it wasn't coming they just threw on his music.

cena

The full ppv is now on YouTube if you have not seen it yet.

Cena/ryback match was the best. I guess we well have a rematch by the two guys again

Lithium93_

8

John Cena will probably be smiles, jokes & dancing tonight, last night will all be forgotten about

riffmongous

9

Since now (hopefully) the Lesnar-HHH feud is over and Lesnar will disappear for a while, I wonder what Heyman will do? I'd like it if they went with Ryback claiming he'd been screwed out of it by the ref not counting and decided to hire Heyman to help him get what he deserves

GTR63

cena wrote: »

The full ppv is now on YouTube if you have not seen it yet.

Even then i'm not bothered. Glad Lesnar had enough of a hand to defeat the part time HHH in the blowoff match(they can't continue it they just can't). Was AJ vs Kaitlyn cut due to time constraints?

JohnMarston

8

GTR63 wrote: »

Even then i'm not bothered. Glad Lesnar had enough of a hand to defeat the part time HHH in the blowoff match(they can't continue it they just can't)

Oh they will

JP Liz V1

8

Cena and Ryback's match was a surprise as it was actually good, much better than Cena's matches with The Rock imo

SlickRic

i get annoyed by the booking of HHH as much as the next guy, but I had no problem with that last night whatsoever.

a heel Lesnar, on one leg, was never going to defeat HHH clean. now, i hear some of you saying, "well, he was booked to be half injured. why bother? just have him decimate HHH."

i would honestly argue that this was better.

1) most importantly, Brock wins the rubber match.
2) you get Heyman over as a legitimate nuisance at ringside who can affect results.
3) Brock sold that leg like a champion. the fact he sold it so well actually made his victory a little epic. that aspect was so key to the whole story. also, his facials were amazing. his animalistic roars were brilliant. he looked proper terrifying. just a super performance from him.
4) he didn't sneak out the cage. he won, in the middle of the ring, with an F5.

so after last night, you genuinely have a resilient monster, who gets help from his manager to further help him win. i think they've somewhat succeeded in making the Brock/HHH team look formidable, thus rehabilitating him from the nonsensical Cena loss from last year, when it took one chain shot and an AA on some steps to beat him.

job done IMO, if they follow it up properly.

EdK

That towel finish was a great idea wasted a bit though with the restart

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7

I agree with your post in theory, Slick. I just don't think how you're portraying it added up with how WWE actually did on the show.

For one, if it had been an injury inflicted by HHH, be it on Raw last week or even on the PPV, and they used it to play up the "Cereberal Assassin" moniker, it would be one thing. Instead, it was self-inflicted by Brock in a move that made him look like an idiot in my opinion. That's twice in 4 matches now he's gone for that same move, whatever it is, and nearly killed himself and cost himself the match. Worse, HHH had been bounced off the cage 5 or 6 times at that point and was fine; Brock's leg hits it once and he sells it like he's been shot.

Furthermore, the whole "Winning while injured" is a face thing. But that only continues WWE's problem over the last month of doing nonsensical booking of faces as heels (Sheamus, Kaitlyn) and heels as faces (Ryback, Brock). The only way an injury like that should play into that match with Brock as heel and HHH as face is if HHH capitalizes on it to win. The face takes advantage of the injury to win the match and overcome the odds. The heel should not overcome the odds. You say the victory was epic. He's a heel. It shouldn't be epic. If anything, it should be cheap and make people dislike him. An injury like that usually makes characters sympathetic, and unless the plan to turn Brock face, should never have played such a big role in the match.

I don't have a problem with the fact he didn't destroy HHH, mind. HHH is a vet of the industry so shouldn't be a walk over. That said, I didn't like the fact HHH kicked his ass on Monday and then suddenly needed a fluke injury to stand a chance against him. WWE seemed to flip-flop on whether HHH was a match for Brock or not in the space of a week; on Monday, he pretty much handed Brock his ass and sent him running, and on Sunday, he needed Brock to kill himself to stand a chance.

I agree it's good he won, and did it in the middle of the ring. Overall, that's whats important since that's all that will be remembered. But the constant attempt to get cheers (using other people's finishers, the whole walking out after the match) is kind of pathetic, and I just don't think the match did much for either man except for the result...

Professional Griefer

Yesterday I heard Cena is retiring, 6 weeks to a operation then back for 1 more mania, or is that all bollocks?

Quite enjoyed last night.

Angron

Professional Griefer wrote: »

Yesterday I heard Cena is retiring, 6 weeks to a operation then back for 1 more mania, or is that all bollocks?

Quite enjoyed last night.

Really, really doubt it.

DM_7

Slamming your knee into the cage after running and flying through the air would leave your knee in 'bits' and made perfect sense. Getting your body or head slammed into the cage happens in all cage matches and is never made out to be a match making moment. Slamming a weight bearing limb into it though should be a match changing moment.


Overall I thought it was a really good match and Brocks performing as a pro wrestler was top notch. HHH has real guts getting in the ring with him three times as Brock genuinely likes to fight and use plenty of force.

Cianan2

8

Thought the cage match was utterly brilliant, Brock sold amazingly. Really happy with that event.

CastorTroy

Had to laugh at the Kaitlyn/AJ segment. Not for the dialogue or anything like that but for the way Kaitlyn was using her hands just to emphasise her chest, the way a guy would when talking about a woman's boobs.

SirDelboy18

I've a big problem with the main event.

How the fúck is this a legitimate 10-count and what happened Sunday night not? Some of us have a memory.

gnfnrhead

SirDelboy18 wrote: »

I've a big problem with the main event.

How the fúck is this a legitimate 10-count and what happened Sunday night not? Some of us have a memory.

Because they booked themselves into a corner and didnt want either man to lose. Should have at least counted both men down instead of just calling it off, even though Ryback got back up.