In light of Eurovision result was Enda Kenny right about "our special case" status??

heartseeker

Does Ireland's ranking in Eurovision prove Enda Kenny's statement to be fatefully correct and right that we are indeed " a special case ".I feel sorry for those that stayed in tonight to maybe save a few quid instead of going out in the hope of seeing some Irish pride restored through that old favourite ability of ours to sing a meaningful song and get appreciation for it on a national scale and a sense of validation and achievement despite be it on a small scale :)Surely the humiliation of the nation will not be complete until we become the only country to have won 7 times and finished last the same number.If this is what were striving for I say give Jedward a five year contract or maybe even bosco or zig n zag ago??

Latchy

Ah here ...it was only a song contest and somebody had to finish last ,it was just Irelands time this year and somebody else will finish last next year but life will go on

Nodin

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I feel sorry for those that stayed in tonight to maybe save a few quid instead of going out in the hope of seeing some Irish pride restored through that old favourite ability of ours to sing a meaningful song.

I'm finding it hard to match the above with the Eurovision event......

Not really sure what you're babbling on about O.P but Ireland came last because it was a shít song/performance and Enda K is a wánker. Does that help?

heartseeker

Nodin wrote: »

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I'm finding it hard to match the above with the Eurovision event......

It just seems that with Dail Eireann coffers and politics in disarray,the Irish rugby team in somewhat of a shambles or "transitional" period and Irish soccer leaving alot to be desired ...where are Irish people meant to look for some reassurance and national comfort and pride when even
our sense of self image as a country has deteriorated so much as to now consistently find ourselves below countries like the UK ,Romania and all the eastern Europeans in an event that we once used to champion??are we not making ourselves a laughing stock by even choosing to remain in this once proud tradition for our country??

MrStuffins

Go home OP, you're drunk!

Larianne

The reason we didn't get many points wasn't because of the song, it was because the dude didn't move around the stage. Although, he probably couldn't move with all that leather on.

Larianne

Larianne wrote: »

The reason we didn't get many points wasn't because of the song, it was because the dude didn't move around the stage. Although, he probably couldn't move with all that leather on.

Or because he was terrible in general?

heartseeker

MrStuffins wrote: »

Go home OP, you're drunk!

Au contraire Mr.Stuffins au contraire!!merely making a point about leadership in this country or lack thereof ....is there no end to the onslaught of all Europeans defecating on us....if we had any kind of pride left we would not continue to represent ourselves so poorly ??

MrStuffins

It's the f*cking Eurovision OP. The Eurovision!

Larianne

shaaane wrote: »

Or because he was terrible in general?

Ah, he was better than The Netherlands. How that got through and got so many points I don't know!

gustafo

heartseeker wrote: »

Does Ireland's ranking in Eurovision prove Enda Kenny's statement to be fatefully correct and right that we are indeed " a special case ".I feel sorry for those that stayed in tonight to maybe save a few quid instead of going out in the hope of seeing some Irish pride restored through that old favourite ability of ours to sing a meaningful song and get appreciation for it on a national scale and a sense of validation and achievement despite be it on a small scale :)Surely the humiliation of the nation will not be complete until we become the only country to have won 7 times and finished last the same number.If this is what were striving for I say give Jedward a five year contract or maybe even bosco or zig n zag ago??

i feel sad for you to actually take the time to write this crap, good god what kind of s**t will people be talking about next on AH, your some sad twat..

hatrickpatrick

Knew someone would equate Eurovision with the economy somehow. Knew it.

The reason ourselves and the UK repeatedly do sh!t in the Eurovision is because as islands we have no bloc except ourselves. Everyone knows Eurovision is no longer a performance contest as much as a "which of our neighbors is our favourite?" exercise. It has been ever since f*cking televoting was introduced.

Tonight's Irish entry wasn't great but it definitely deserved to be fairly f*cking far from last place. Had we been a landlocked former Soviet Republic it would have been. Simple as.

Unless you're proposing we move the island, I don't immediately see anything anyone can do about this. We could have sent out U2 and still finished last FFS. To quote Father Ted, "This competition... Is a sham! And a fraud! And a sh... Sham!!!!!"

Stereomaniac

I beg to differ. I doubt that countries vote for their neighbours because they particularly like them. I am sure a lot of it is that you have people living in different places to where they actually come from, in much the same way as you have lots of Irish in England.

Thephantomsmask

Surely all the better for our failing economy that we won't be paying millions to host it next year as winners? I doubt it draws in the tourists apart from the competitor's entourage.

A Rogue Hobo

Our song was ****e, even by Eurovision standards and that is all there was to it. You know things are bad when the UK with a huge Irish vote are only giving us 1 point.

Stereomaniac

I don't even bother to hear the Eurovision song most years. I haven't heard what we entered in it this year and I only heard Jedward the year they did it because they were unavoidable.

Lenin Skynard

Yes, I agree with you OP. We came last and we always will when we have a pair of pussies like Gilmore and Kenny running the place. Men like those are happy to come last so long as they are included and don't have to answer difficult questions.

Liamalone

Would be nice to know what Mr Kenny actually said, in the OP, but maybe that's asking too much.

p. s. Who is Enda Kenny?

Liamalone

pps Eurovision is that ****e I never even knew it was on til Wednesday this week. Just kill it.

Lenin Skynard

Liamalone wrote: »

p. s. Who is Enda Kenny?

I can already hear the leaving cert class of 2030 (maybe 2020) asking the same question.

Liamalone

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

I can already hear the leaving cert class of 2030 (maybe 2020) asking the same question.

Don't think that answers my question tbh, does he play for City?

Son Of A Vidic

Why people still watch or care about this irrelevant tripe is beyond me. We should just nominate "My Lovely Horse" every year and be done with it.

Vicxas

We came last. That's brilliant.

genuine leather

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Why people still watch or care about this irrelevant tripe is beyond me. We should just nominate "My Lovely Horse" every year and be done with it.

+1
My lovely horse would do better

Enda who?

Boskowski

It's a funny thing how Irish people and even the Irish media are constantly looking for self confirmation.
'Isn't it great how well you're man is doing over there?' That's what the gf said about Graham Norton yesterday and then she harped on about some Terry Wogan and how he is also Irish and bladibla.
You Irish are very unique and very likeable and also pretty cool. There is nothing wrong with ye quite the opposite and the whole world knows about ye and likes ye.
Why do you need constant affirmation of that? Do you think yourself you're useless?

Guy:Incognito

The only thing left to do for next year is to send the reanimated corpse of johny logan.

mattjack

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The only thing left to do for next year is to send the reanimated corpse of johny logan.

He just needs to be defrosted and given a kick up the hole to start him off.He's stored in freezer section of his local Supervalue.

Blindpew2012

People in Europe won't vote for Ireland because we are seen as a country of lick arse's. The way we have embraced austerity here without protest must sicken other struggling nations. Ireland is been held up as the poster boy for cutbacks whilst claiming we are the special ones. 5 votes from Europe in a song contest should show us how special we really are.

Guy:Incognito

Blindpew2012 wrote: »

People in Europe won't vote for Ireland because we are seen as a country of lick arse's. The way we have embraced austerity here without protest must sicken other struggling nations. Ireland is been held up as the poster boy for cutbacks whilst claiming we are the special ones. 5 votes from Europe in a song contest should show us how special we really are.

So they voted for greece because they murdered a few people?

Think ill stick with last so.

We need to invade some country, declare peace with them, and then maybe in 20 years we might get some 12 points.

So, who'll be first?

Guy:Incognito

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We need to invade some country, declare peace with them, and then maybe in 20 years we might get some 12 points.

So, who'll be first?

Russia

DEFTLEFTHAND

Deleted User wrote: »

We need to invade some country, declare peace with them, and then maybe in 20 years we might get some 12 points.

So, who'll be first?

I think we can take Iceland, they don't even have a State Army.

hfallada

Who every has the money to pay for it wins it. Take Sweden which has really been hit with the recession. Also Germany with whatever her name is.

Judges deceide on the winner and no phone votes so they can ensure that the country with money wins

Guy:Incognito

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Russia

Russia is cold and too far away. How about Spain?

mattjack

Deleted User wrote: »

We need to invade some country, declare peace with them, and then maybe in 20 years we might get some 12 points.

So, who'll be first?

Australia , half us are there already or going there .

mattjack

mattjack wrote: »

Australia , half us are there already or going there .

But Australia can't vote for us in the Eurovision.

Augmerson

I didn't think we were the worst that night but its obvious everybody just votes for their neighbour now, and as an island we're screwed unless our song is a def no. 1.

fryup

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I think we can take Iceland, they don't even have a State Army.

bit cold though nah don't fancy it

IngazZagni

At least we qualified in the semis. Many Countries didnt even qualify for the final so in a way we weren't really 'last'.

edit: Think of poor Israel. Nobody votes for them even if they are good.

fryup

IngazZagni wrote: »

At least we qualified in the semis. Many Countries didnt even qualify for the final so in a way we weren't really 'last'.

just thinking...would it have been better if we didn't qualify for the final..so the embarrassment of last night result could have been avoided

Blindpew2012

That should console us I suppose. Ireland and Israel, the pariahs of Europe.

corktina

lets face it, if any of the songs or singers were any good, they'd be out there making money

tfitzgerald

I thing the Irish singer did a good job. He did not deserve to come last. Ffs did ye see the guy from Romania.

tfitzgerald

tfitzgerald wrote: »

I thing the Irish singer did a good job. He did not deserve to come last. Ffs did ye see the guy from Romania.

You might not have liked his song very much, but the guy from Romania was one of the most talented singers there.

corktina

tfitzgerald wrote: »

I thing the Irish singer did a good job. He did not deserve to come last. Ffs did ye see the guy from Romania.

yeah but the guy from Romania has neighbouring countries to vote for him....we're stuck out in the Atlantic in a raincloud, who knows who we are, let alone vote for us on an Old Friends ticket.

dxhound2005

corktina wrote: »

yeah but the guy from Romania has neighbouring countries to vote for him....we're stuck out in the Atlantic in a raincloud, who knows who we are, let alone vote for us on an Old Friends ticket.

All the countries that made us winners 7 times including a 3 in a row are still there. Why would they have deserted us? On the other hand if everyone is against us now how come we got through the semi final?

IngazZagni

fryup wrote: »

just thinking...would it have been better if we didn't qualify for the final..so the embarrassment of last night result could have been avoided

Probably. They dont rank the semis anyway so we wouldn't know were we actually came and then probably wouldn't even have this thread.

evolving_doors

gustafo wrote: »

i feel sad for you to actually take the time to write this crap, good god what kind of s**t will people be talking about next on AH, your some sad twat..

I predict that tomorrow the op will find a safe.

Solair

You know the Eurovision has as much to do with the EU as the Rose of Tralee has to do with NASA, right?

It's run by the 'European Broadcasting Union' which is an association of television stations that now spreads hugely beyond the EU and even the continent of Europe.

It's just a big kitsch-fest really and I don't think most musicians would see it as a good way of launching a career which might explain a lot.

It's a 1950s TV show that's decades past its sell by date and I think the money could be spent on something more useful!

Reekwind

corktina wrote: »

lets face it, if any of the songs or singers were any good, they'd be out there making money

Many of them are professional and successful recording artists. Just not in the the UK or US, ie the English speaking market