c/L vs €/L

paulmclaughlin

Now that petrol and diesel is permanently above €1, why is fuel still priced by cent per litre? Surely it would be handier to just change it?

CiniO

paulmclaughlin wrote: »

Now that petrol and diesel is permanently above €1, why is fuel still priced by cent per litre? Surely it would be handier to just change it?

Do you want them to round it to full euros, so we can have petrol for €2 ?

Cheensbo

paulmclaughlin wrote: »

Now that petrol and diesel is permanently above €1, why is fuel still priced by cent per litre? Surely it would be handier to just change it?

Change it to what?

mickdw

SO instead of 159.9 you want 1.599?

For Forks Sake

You have little to be concerning yourself with OP.

SeanW

mickdw wrote: »

SO instead of 159.9 you want 1.599?

That would certainly highlight the stupidity of the fraction of a cent nonsense.

Think the OP would prefer €1.59 or €1.60 instead of 159.9 ... that .9 business is retarded, and more to the point assumes the customers are retarded.

CiniO

SeanW wrote: »

That would certainly highlight the stupidity of the fraction of a cent nonsense.

Think the OP would prefer €1.59 or €1.60 instead of 159.9 ... that .9 business is retarded, and more to the point assumes the customers are retarded.

You know it's better to pay for fuel 1.599 than 1.60.

paulmclaughlin

CiniO wrote: »

Do you want them to round it to full euros, so we can have petrol for €2 ?

I didn't mention rounding...

Cheensbo wrote: »

Change it to what?

€ per litre, as per thread title.

I have seen some fuel stations trying to outdo a nearby station selling diesel for 149.9c by selling it for 149.8c, which is pretty petty IMO.

CiniO

paulmclaughlin wrote: »

I have seen some fuel stations trying to outdo a nearby station selling diesel for 149.9c by selling it for 149.8c, which is pretty petty IMO.

Why petty?

If they sell it cheaper, then better for us.

SeanW

CiniO wrote: »

You know it's better to pay for fuel 1.599 than 1.60.

1.599 is the same as 1.60 for all intents and purposes, it's for marketing reasons that it's done. If you see 1.599 they think you're too dense to see that it's really 1.60.

As to it being "better" if I buy 5 litres of fuel at Xxx9, do I get my half-cent back in change? 2 litres, do I get 2/10 cent? Do I f***! It's bull.

paulmclaughlin

CiniO wrote: »

Why petty?

If they sell it cheaper, then better for us.

Because it is extremely insignificant in the long run.

CiniO

SeanW wrote: »

1.599 is the same as 1.60 for all intents and purposes, it's for marketing reasons that it's done. If you see 1.599 they think you're too dense to see that it's really 1.60.

As to it being "better" if I buy 5 litres of fuel at Xxx9, do I get my half-cent back in change? 2 litres, do I get 2/10 cent? Do I f***! It's bull.

Difference between 1.60 and 1.599 can save me over 3 quid a year on fuel.
That will nearly buy me a pint.
It is better to have a pint or not to have a pint?

CiniO

paulmclaughlin wrote: »

Because it is extremely insignificant in the long run.

It's a small amount, but it's better to pay less than more for exactly the same thing, no matter how small amount it is.

paulmclaughlin

CiniO wrote: »

It is better to have a pint or not to have a pint?

Best ask your doctor.

CiniO wrote: »

It's a small amount, but it's better to pay less than more for exactly the same thing, no matter how small amount it is.

Fuel is not always the same thing. Many brands add different additives to their so their composition is different. So for that extra pint of yours, you could be running down your vehicle.

CiniO

paulmclaughlin wrote: »

Best ask your doctor.

I don't need to ask a doctor is a pint is good for me. I know it is

Fuel is not always the same thing. Many brands add different additives to their so their composition is different. So for that extra pint of yours, you could be running down your vehicle.

Yes, but you are going away from the point in here.
I'm not saying it's not worth to pay more to buy at reputable station for good quality fuel.
I'm saying it's better to pay 1.599 then 1.60 for fuel, so if you want petrol stations to sell the same fuel they are selling, but instead of selling them for 159.9 cents for 1.60 euro, then I say NO - that's not what I would like.

paulmclaughlin

CiniO wrote: »

I'm saying it's better to pay 1.599 then 1.60 for fuel, so if you want petrol stations to sell the same fuel they are selling, but instead of selling them for 159.9 cents for 1.60 euro, then I say NO - that's not what I would like.

I understand what you mean but you are paying roughly 6 cent less per fill-up for an advertising gimmick which I would rather not see.

AugustusMinimus

OP.

I'll give you a paypal account which you can put that .1c per litre saving your making into if you don't want it.

AugustusMinimus

paulmclaughlin wrote: »

I understand what you mean but you are paying roughly 6 cent less per fill-up for an advertising gimmick which I would rather not see.

It's not a gimmick. The garage is charging less, even if it's just .1c per litre.

I simply can't work out why anyone would not want that little bit of a saving for nothing.

paulmclaughlin

Saturday 18.05.2013 wrote: »

If you're paying €1.599 per litre as opposed to €1.60, that's a difference of 0.001c, after a hundred thousand liters you will a Euro. Think about it. Eddy Hobbs.

Slightly wrong with your calculations there mate. After 1,000 litres he will have a euro.

AugustusMinimus

Saturday 18.05.2013 wrote: »

If you're paying €1.599 per litre as opposed to €1.60, that's a difference of 0.001c, after a hundred thousand liters you will a Euro. Think about it. Eddy Hobbs.

€.001 not .001c

€.001 = .1c

ironclaw

All of this is assuming the pump is accurate to 1/1000 of the price point which it won't be. Your codding yourself if you think there is any saving or otherwise to be made. Temperature alone would be greater than 1/1000 of a € in each fill. Sure even the rounding at the till and subsequent financials would be skewing everything even further.

air

ironclaw wrote: »

All of this is assuming the pump is accurate to 1/1000 of the price point which it won't be. Your codding yourself if you think there is any saving or otherwise to be made. Temperature alone would be greater than 1/1000 of a € in each fill. Sure even the rounding at the till and subsequent financials would be skewing everything even further.

While you're probably correct with regard to the absolute accuracy bit, the pumps have temperature compensation built in. If you look at one carefully you will see they are rated for volume at a particular temperature, if it's colder you will get less litres than the pump indicates and conversely more in warmer temps. The mass of fuel delivered remains constant though.

CiniO

ironclaw wrote: »

All of this is assuming the pump is accurate to 1/1000 of the price point which it won't be. Your codding yourself if you think there is any saving or otherwise to be made. Temperature alone would be greater than 1/1000 of a € in each fill. Sure even the rounding at the till and subsequent financials would be skewing everything even further.

It doesn't matter.
You will still pay less with price of 1.599 than 1.60.
If there is difference in fuel amount due to temperature or pump inaccuracy, those factors will exist regardless price is 1.599 or 1.60.

djimi

I would assume the advertised price has something to do with the fact that the pump calculates the prices in cent, not Euro.

Plus at the end of the day it doesnt really make any difference.

SeanW

CiniO wrote: »

It doesn't matter.
You will still pay less with price of 1.599 than 1.60.
If there is difference in fuel amount due to temperature or pump inaccuracy, those factors will exist regardless price is 1.599 or 1.60.

You would have to buy 10 litres of fuel - in one transaction - to save just 1c because of the gimmick. It's irrelevant token change at best.

Besides if the gimmick were for example to be banned, but a garage did not want to be seen to be charging an "even" number (say, €1.50 or €1.60) then they would have to decrease their prices by a full cent per litre, not 1/10th of a cent. (€1.49 instead of €1.50 or €1.59 instead of €1.60)

CiniO

SeanW wrote: »

You would have to buy 10 litres of fuel - in one transaction - to save just 1c because of the gimmick. It's irrelevant token change at best.

I usually purchase upwards of 50litres in one transaction, so I save 5cents every time I fill up.
As I said before - in the whole year, it saves me few quid for a pint.
Why on earth would I want it to be changed for worse.

Besides if the gimmick were for example to be banned, but a garage did not want to be seen to be charging an "even" number (say, €1.50 or €1.60) then they would have to decrease their prices by a full cent per litre, not 1/10th of a cent. (€1.49 instead of €1.50 or €1.59 instead of €1.60)

Why don't garages do it now?
If one station has fuel for 160.9, then why other won't sell fuel for 1.599 to attract customers?

HandsomeDan

It adds up to a few quid a year.

What has to be wrong with you to complain about this

BMJD

HandsomeDan wrote: »

It adds up to a few quid a year.

What has to be wrong with you to complain about this

because that negligible saving will be wiped out if the negligibly cheaper station is any more than a couple of metres away from the negligibly more expensive one :P

CiniO

BMJD wrote: »

because that negligible saving will be wiped out if the negligibly cheaper station is any more than a couple of metres away from the negligibly more expensive one :P

I think you don't understand.

If all petrol stations increase price by 0.1 cent (and that's exactly what OP wants) then you will pay few quid more for fuel per year, than you are paying now

corktina

CiniO wrote: »

It doesn't matter.
You will still pay less with price of 1.599 than 1.60.
If there is difference in fuel amount due to temperature or pump inaccuracy, those factors will exist regardless price is 1.599 or 1.60.

you'd pay less if it was 1.59 rather than 1.599 though and thats the point, petrol stations would rather sell at 1,599 than 1.600, thus they may prefer to sell at 1.59 if the .9 was outlawed

CiniO

corktina wrote: »

you'd pay less if it was 1.59 rather than 1.599 though and thats the point, petrol stations would rather sell at 1,599 than 1.600, thus they may prefer to sell at 1.59 if the .9 was outlawed

Exactly the same as they might be doing now - instead of selling for 160.9 they are selling for 159.9

BMJD

CiniO wrote: »

If all petrol stations increase price by 0.1 cent (and that's exactly what OP wants) then you will pay few quid more for fuel per year, than you are paying now

no, since I have a fuel card

my point is that if you are choosing the station selling fuel at €1.599 over one selling for €1.60 then it better not be too far away!

CiniO

BMJD wrote: »

no, since I have a fuel card

What difference does fuel card make here?
You still have to pay the price of the fuel.

my point is that if you are choosing the station selling fuel at €1.599 over one selling for €1.60 then it better not be too far away!

Yes - that's obvious.
But it's not what we are talking about.
We are talking about buying petrol for 1.60 instead of 1.599 on the same petrol station, as OP wanted stations to get rid of last digit.